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Carrier Strike Group Rushes To Persian Gulf
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Special/2012/08/27/Carrier-strike-group-rushes-to-PersianGulf/UPI-35731346063400/ ^ | August 27, 2012

Posted on 08/27/2012 6:17:29 AM PDT by Strategy

WASHINGTON, Aug. 27 (UPI) -- The U.S. Navy aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis is being rushed to the Persian Gulf as tensions between Israel and Iran edge closer to the boiling point.

The Nimitz class carrier, with an air wing of about 90 aircraft, sets sail Monday on an eight-month deployment to the region -- four months ahead of schedule.

In the gulf it will join the USS Enterprise Strike Group, giving the United States a powerful deterrent to any Iranian attack on commercial oil tankers in the Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz or a counterpunch to Iranian military action against U.S. military facilities in the region or those of its allies.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aircraftcarrier; carriers; cvn74; iran; iranisraelwar; islam; israel; middleeast; sourcenamedumbass; sourcenamedumgass; sourcetitlenoturl; ussstennis
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1 posted on 08/27/2012 6:17:38 AM PDT by Strategy
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To: Strategy

Just hope these big blue water ships are not confined to the narrow waters of the Persian Gulf. Also hope their escorts are well armed with anti missile defense systems.


2 posted on 08/27/2012 6:22:11 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Strategy

And the GOP convention begins. May we say the timing is suspicions?


3 posted on 08/27/2012 6:23:01 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: Strategy

Yep maybe Obama will wag the dog.


4 posted on 08/27/2012 6:24:04 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (SARAH PALIN 2012 OR BUST)
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To: Strategy

Isn’t that a bit early for an October surprise?


5 posted on 08/27/2012 6:24:04 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Strategy

Can anyone say “October Surprise”?


6 posted on 08/27/2012 6:25:17 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Strategy
How convenient right before the elections
7 posted on 08/27/2012 6:25:40 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: allendale

So, Obama is putting up a defense shield against Israel’s likely attacks on Iran? Just in time for the GOP Convention and the subsequent elections?


8 posted on 08/27/2012 6:25:50 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Strategy

9 posted on 08/27/2012 6:26:39 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: EGPWS

I’m sure that Zero will be the hero for both the impending hurricane and whatever happens with the Israel/Iran thing before the election. It will be enough to push him over the edge for the November victory.

Watch...it will happen this way.


10 posted on 08/27/2012 6:26:44 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: Strategy

Going on an 8-month deployment 4 months ahead of schedule - sucks being those guys. Prayers up all the way around.

Colonel, USAFR


11 posted on 08/27/2012 6:27:18 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: jagusafr

Yes, sir, I agree.

Not that it is foremost on my mind..but I also wonder if their votes will be counted.


12 posted on 08/27/2012 6:32:03 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: jagusafr

This Air Force flyboy had the distinct privilege of landing on the Stennis, trap, and being shot off the deck the following morning after observing a night recovery.

The coolest thing I ever did while serving in the Air Force was with the Navy!


13 posted on 08/27/2012 6:32:38 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: jagusafr

Looks like they just came back from deployment in Feb.

God speed USS Stennis.


14 posted on 08/27/2012 6:32:47 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: allendale
Just hope these big blue water ships are not confined to the narrow waters of the Persian Gulf. Also hope their escorts are well armed with anti missile defense systems.

You have to believe the admirals are thrilled about going near the gulf

Our navy has not been tested in a battle situation where they have undergone attacks
15 posted on 08/27/2012 6:34:06 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: jagusafr
Going on an 8-month deployment 4 months ahead of schedule - sucks being those guys

Been there, done that, never any fun.

But at least mine was done in the Med where there were some decent liberty ports. I cannot imagine where ships sent to the Persian Gulf dock to let the crew blow off steam.

16 posted on 08/27/2012 6:35:16 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: uncbob

NOT thrilled


17 posted on 08/27/2012 6:35:32 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: COBOL2Java

“May we say the timing is suspicions?”

We may say that the timing is “a Day Late...” Let’s just hope that it is not “...a Dollar Short.”

In reality, the timing is a year or more late. Before sending the carrier groups we should have supported the still-born Iranian democracy movement and very publicly backed Israel’s right to construct glass parking lots wherever they found a madman with nukes repeatedly threatening to annihilate Israel.

Better yet, let Mossad whack Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollah & Co, making it appear to be internal dissension. Best idea would be to help genuine internal dissidents to whack the nut-jobs. Not everyone in Iran is crazy, with a Mahdi fore-runner martyr complex.


18 posted on 08/27/2012 6:35:39 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: jagusafr

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2921942/posts

Check the above link


19 posted on 08/27/2012 6:35:53 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Strategy

America is tired of war. If Obama starts something up in Iran, he will lose his base bigtime. And it’s not like conservatives are going to suddenly rush to his support. It would be a stupid move by Obama. But, then again, he is stupid.


20 posted on 08/27/2012 6:36:19 AM PDT by GnL
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To: Strategy
...a counterpunch to Iranian military action against U.S. military facilities in the region or those of its allies, including the Syrian rebel insurrection, and Muslim Brotherhood Islamic militants.
21 posted on 08/27/2012 6:37:00 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: TSgt
“and being shot off the deck the following morning after observing a night recovery.”

Hopefully you were in an aircraft both times.

22 posted on 08/27/2012 6:40:38 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Strategy

Looks like the October surprise may come early this election. The only two cabinet officials that Obama has been having late-afternoon meetings with are Geithner and Panetta. Obama needs to play the ‘Commander-in-Chief’ card in order to gain more votes in November.


23 posted on 08/27/2012 6:41:48 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Strategy

Without giving too much in the way of detail, can anyone generalize about how much time it takes to get a carrier battle group deployed that far ahead of schedule?

Just curious how long ago this decision would have to have been made and communicated out in order to get everyone back aboard, get everything loaded, etc. I assume there was planned maintenance that would now be deferred too.

I’m under the assumption that these ships weren’t just sitting around idly by four months early.


24 posted on 08/27/2012 6:44:32 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: COBOL2Java
And the GOP convention begins. May we say the timing is suspicions?

For the POSOTUS slime and gutless maneuvers are nothing new, it is the stylings of all Communist thugs...and it is in the top five of Sol Alinksy's playbook

25 posted on 08/27/2012 6:46:21 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: GnL

American’s aren’t tired of war....

American’s are tired of bullsh*t nation building like Afghanistan.....

Get in, destroy and leave quickly...let the bad guys deal with their own aftermath....


26 posted on 08/27/2012 6:47:17 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: TSgt

That’s pretty cool. How much overlap and training is required to to get carrier certified? Was yours under emergency or why would they let you play in their sandbox?


27 posted on 08/27/2012 6:47:23 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Strategy

To deter Iran or deter Israel by monitoring the positions of her subs and aircraft?


28 posted on 08/27/2012 6:49:01 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: HereInTheHeartland
LOL! C2

29 posted on 08/27/2012 6:49:09 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: GnL
America is tired of war. If Obama starts something up in Iran, he will lose his base bigtime.

I agree.....

30 posted on 08/27/2012 6:49:20 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: Strategy

Obama wags dogs over open fire pits, before he eats them. Kinda like ‘smores.


31 posted on 08/27/2012 6:49:27 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: Strategy

Proverbs 26:11.


32 posted on 08/27/2012 6:51:16 AM PDT by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: Strategy

Here we go it looks like Wag the Dog time for Barry Hussein Soetoro. Just before the election.


33 posted on 08/27/2012 6:53:29 AM PDT by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: sam_paine

Oh I’m not a flyer. Just a computer/crypto geek. My unit and the Stennis exchanged radar air pictures and data links in support of Operation Southern Watch so we did a troop exchange to see “the other side.”

Poor Navy guys got to go to the desert in the middle of nowhere.


34 posted on 08/27/2012 6:56:10 AM PDT by TSgt (The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times, is because it is impossible to have two in.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
“and being shot off the deck the following morning after observing a night recovery.”

Hopefully you were in an aircraft both times.


I was thinking pirate sniper or something.
35 posted on 08/27/2012 7:01:59 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: woweeitsme
"I’m sure that Zero will be the hero for both the impending hurricane and whatever happens with the Israel/Iran thing before the election. It will be enough to push him over the edge for the November victory. Watch...it will happen this way."

What's the bet that it doesn't?

36 posted on 08/27/2012 7:03:25 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("So, a Mormon and a Catholic walk onto an aircraft carrier...")
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To: Delhi Rebels
"But at least mine was done in the Med where there were some decent liberty ports. I cannot imagine where ships sent to the Persian Gulf dock to let the crew blow off steam."

Dubai's not bad, and these days, they want the money.

37 posted on 08/27/2012 7:08:15 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("So, a Mormon and a Catholic walk onto an aircraft carrier...")
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To: chrisser
Just curious how long ago this decision would have to have been made and communicated out in order to get everyone back aboard, get everything loaded, etc.

The most likely war scenarios are planned and wargamed early on. The scenario, "Israel strikes Iran" is probably the one updated the most. We most likely do not know the timing but prudent military planning requires having the assets the plan says are needed deployed ahead of action and that is what we may be seeing.

38 posted on 08/27/2012 7:15:20 AM PDT by AU72
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To: GnL

I think you’re right. Normally, the American public would cross all party lines and support the president in the event of military action but not this time. It would work against him. Still, because he’s incapable of understanding the situation he is in, I think he might do it.


39 posted on 08/27/2012 7:16:37 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: nevergore

Speaking of Afghanistan, another two soldiers killed today, by their “helpers”. This is the Vietnam approach again, know the war is unpopular at home, just keep the pressure up till the US withdraws. Meanwhile, we atrit our best of the best, our soldiers.

If your advesary knows you plan to fight with handcuffs on, they tend to wait you out. Recall the famous we are going to Vietmatise the Vietnam war so we can withdraw? Same plan, same result now.


40 posted on 08/27/2012 7:18:08 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Truth29
To deter Iran or deter Israel by monitoring the positions of her subs and aircraft?

Ding, Ding, Ding, we have a winner!!

Obama knows he will loose in November if America gets dragged into a shooting war between Isreal and Iran. If either side starts something, Obama will be forced to act in some fashion. Isreal is the most likely starter of any short term conflict. You do the rest of the math.

Fences can be used to keep stuff in, or used to keep stuff out - and the Stennis Group makes a very big and very capable fence.
41 posted on 08/27/2012 7:27:00 AM PDT by arfan (Think Critically... Act Decisively... Reflect Constantly...)
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To: Vaquero
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Did you mean this guy?

42 posted on 08/27/2012 7:32:16 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: Strategy

No doubt with Obama secret orders to interdict the planned Israeli air strikes against Irans nuclear sites, which are ALL “peaceful”( BIG SARC.)

Obama wants to be very careful,for if he interferes with Israel, he is going against the American people.Obama wants to hero his way into another term of electoral office.We need him out of there before he creates WWIII.


43 posted on 08/27/2012 7:41:54 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Strategy

Pure BS.

In a confrontation with Iran - You deploy the carriers out of the Persian Gulf kill zone. Well out of coastal defense missile range in the North Arabian Sea is the location for carriers in a confrontation with Iran - Gonzo Station.

Carriers are not Battleships, you don’t operate them at gun ranges. Be worried when we empty out of the Persian Gulf - not when we are doing normal ops in the Gulf...


44 posted on 08/27/2012 7:45:19 AM PDT by DJ Elliott (Montrose Toast Blog)
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To: GnL

I think Americans are more fed up with Rules of Engagement that tie our boys hands. Go in...kill all the bad guys, level the place like Dresden. Glass factories if needed. Then come the hell home and let the savages deal with the aftermath. While home do border patrol. Someone gets froggy you go shut them up as well. No more ROE that sends our troops out without ammo and unable to engage threats with a BFH. WTF is up with that??.


45 posted on 08/27/2012 7:47:13 AM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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To: allendale

So...let’s push another ten or fifteen thousand men and women into this wag the dog pressure cooker. What the hell happens if the Iranians decide to use their new NORK nukes on our carriers instead of Israel?

We are acting pretty stupid these days.


46 posted on 08/27/2012 7:48:10 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am NOT from Vermont. I am from MA. And I don't support Romney. Please read before "assuming.")
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To: Aevery_Freeman

EXCELLENT graphic! Bravo!

You can be sure of one thing: 0bamugabe hasn’t ordered the Stennis battle group into the Gulf for the purpose of assisting Israel with either overt or covert assistance.

If Israel launches air strikes against Iran, the odds in my opinion are 3 outta 5 that the Communist Kenyan will order our forces to shoot them down.

God help all of us if that should happen.


47 posted on 08/27/2012 7:48:45 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: arfan
"Fences can be used to keep stuff in, or used to keep stuff out - and the Stennis Group makes a very big and very capable fence."

Yes, and Obama is quite capable of leaking ship and air wing movements like he has already been leaking Israeli plans and conversations with the US.

48 posted on 08/27/2012 7:54:07 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: halfright

Just my opinion, but I think it is much simpler than that. Americans are just tired of the ongoing conflicts. In fact, if the MSM was still covering Iraq and Afghanistan, Obama’s numbers would be in the crapper. It’s amazing that so many troops are still over there, dying, and yet we don’t see it ever mentioned anymore in the press.


49 posted on 08/27/2012 8:03:56 AM PDT by GnL
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To: TSgt

I was working the deck on the fid, and we had a coupla air farce pukes in the back seats of our EA-6B. It was on the cats waiting to launch. The pilot and ecmo 1 were in the front, with their heads back firmly against the seat. The air farce pukes were in the back, leaning forward in their seats, looking around the deck in wide eyed wonder.

When they shot the plane off, those air farce pukes heads literally slammed back into the seats!!!

I laughed so hard my eyes watered!!!


50 posted on 08/27/2012 8:12:47 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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