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Karl Rove predicts historic loss for Todd Akin
Politico ^ | August. 27, 2012 | JENNIFER HABERKORN

Posted on 08/27/2012 10:04:11 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

TAMPA, Fla.— Karl Rove on Monday predicted Rep. Todd Akin will lose by the widest margin of any Republican candidate in modern history if he remains in his Missouri Senate race against Sen. Claire McCaskill.

“What he said was indefensible and the way he handled it made it worse,” Rove told POLITICO’s Mike Allen at the first POLITICO Playbook Breakfast at the Republican National Convention.

“This is a program that he taped and obviously he saw nothing wrong with it in his tape,” Rove said, pointing out that Akin didn’t respond to the taped interview until two days later.

Rove said Akin has no option other than getting out of the race.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Missouri
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1 posted on 08/27/2012 10:04:14 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

and it was ours to win.


2 posted on 08/27/2012 10:11:18 AM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Rove is a hater.


3 posted on 08/27/2012 10:12:52 AM PDT by donna (This is the age of Republican-Feminism. "Feel right” has replaced being right!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Just keep beating the dead horse "conservatives/ gop-e". You are well on your way to splitting your voter base in MO and handing Obama the election.

Get your head out of your butts. Shooting at your own side every day does NOTHING to win elections.

4 posted on 08/27/2012 10:14:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: donna

Rove is full of himself.


5 posted on 08/27/2012 10:15:25 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: donna

He may be a hater, but he is right that Akin will lose, I don’t know if he’ll lose by the largest margin in history, perhaps for his state, but don’t know about history. He’s also going to be a drag on every race, and cost the GOP some close ones.


6 posted on 08/27/2012 10:17:29 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I hope that Karl Rove, David Gergen, Colin Powell and Ed Rollins have a Special place in the lake of fire reserved for them.


7 posted on 08/27/2012 10:18:06 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: donna
Rove is a hater.
And to think he was born on Christmas.
8 posted on 08/27/2012 10:18:48 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Time for MO to prove Rove wrong!


9 posted on 08/27/2012 10:19:24 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Someone on Akin’s team (if he still has a team) should put this Rove clip on YouTube and email the link to their lists. Rove is WAY more hated than Akin is.


10 posted on 08/27/2012 10:19:46 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Karl Rove is an establishment Republican. They want Akin to step aside so that they can put one of their own in his place. Have you noticed it's the anti-conservative Republican that keep talking about it. At least Akin didn't say that Guam might tip over from to many troops stationed there.
11 posted on 08/27/2012 10:19:46 AM PDT by MCF
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Karl Rove should shut the hell up on this. they are determined to force him out.

Akin said somethign stupid, OK- get over it. None of us are perfect.

But his opponent is a baby-murder supporting, Obama ass-kissing liberal who will NOT repeal Obamacare, GOT IT???

Pick one.


12 posted on 08/27/2012 10:20:16 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

My guess is that Rove is way off on this, unless he actually starts doing ads for McCaskill. Which could happen.


13 posted on 08/27/2012 10:20:54 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I know it is true and you know it is true, but posting ANYTHING from Karl Rove (let alone an Akin piece) on this site will bring you hostile fire.

Thanks for posting.


14 posted on 08/27/2012 10:21:56 AM PDT by chronicles
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To: US Navy Vet
I hope that Karl Rove, David Gergen, Colin Powell and Ed Rollins have a Special place in the lake of fire reserved for them.
They'll have company!
15 posted on 08/27/2012 10:22:11 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Rove is exactly right. Inadvertant as it may be, Akin handed that once-winnable contest to McCaskill with that fateful comment... and he`s hurting the national ticket, IMO.

But, hey.. we must move on... Akin has amassed almost $100K (vs McCaskill`s multi-million$), and he`s picking up broad support (among democrats). Plus, he`s dead set on winning (2nd place).


16 posted on 08/27/2012 10:25:57 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama, you're going down in November.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I am willing to make this agreement with the Akin supporters on this site:

If Akin pulls this out I will be willing to write a mea culpa vanity on this site. You can write to me and tell me what I need to include in that post.

If Akin loses I want to see EACH Akin supporter write their own mea culpa which would include the admission that not all people who want him to drop out are ESTABLISHMENT types. That some of us WERE GENUINELY OFFENDED by what he said and are bonafide conservatives too.

If Romney loses Missouri because of this I want those same supporters to admit that they put ego ahead of reality, which is what they do if they decide not to vote for Romney because of this.

17 posted on 08/27/2012 10:27:09 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: donna

Rove hates conservatives.


18 posted on 08/27/2012 10:29:44 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Yes, indeed! Rove is going to make sure Akin loses....why, he had the gall and audacity not to obey Rove.


19 posted on 08/27/2012 10:30:27 AM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Not from Missouri, but apt for conservatives:


20 posted on 08/27/2012 10:30:32 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Karl Rove on Monday predicted Rep. Todd Akin will lose by the widest margin of any Republican candidate in modern history if he remains in his Missouri Senate race against Sen. Claire McCaskill.

Todd, please do AMERICANS a favor and drop out. Sarah Steelman (Sarah Palin's pick) would be great!

21 posted on 08/27/2012 10:30:53 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!)
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To: ScottinVA

But, hey.. we must move on... Akin has amassed almost $100K (vs McCaskill`s multi-million$), and he`s picking up broad support (among democrats). Plus, he`s dead set on winning (2nd place).

True , true, true.


22 posted on 08/27/2012 10:31:48 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The founder of Free Republic, Jim Robinson, supports Akin. We should too.

This is what Jim said at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2922134/posts?page=157#157

“My take is the baby is innocent. Always is. Akin is pro life. If he’s the candidate, I support him.”


23 posted on 08/27/2012 10:32:40 AM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I`d be very surprised if Akin pulls in more support in Nov. than Alvin Greene did vs. Jim DeMint in 2010.


24 posted on 08/27/2012 10:32:55 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama, you're going down in November.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
AGAIN:

...would this mean that the people of Mo do not care what happens to the freedom of the United States?

For crying out loud!...then all that is required for a "historic loss" of a Republican is that they are lured,(or by a lapse in judgement) into saying something stupid. Aiken made a quick and sincere apology for the error, but evidently that amounts to nothing, and that the U.S. is to be punished with the reelection of Ma McCaskill? Even what Aiken said is, as far as I can tell is a Republican pro-life stance.

If the people of Mo go ahead and re-elect Ms McCaskill because of a dumbass statement, then I think we are truly lost.

Must I find the nearest welfare office and sign up....just because voters think that stupid statments trump freedom and liberty?

One other thing: Rove predictions are NOT set in stone. They are predictions, no more, no less...and are rendered from an "establishment Republican" perspective. He actually has no more of an idea who will win in Mo as I have.

25 posted on 08/27/2012 10:33:15 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: LRoggy

“If Akin loses I want to see EACH Akin supporter write their own mea culpa’

That would only happen if these people lived in realville.


26 posted on 08/27/2012 10:34:10 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: B.O. Plenty

“Aiken made a quick and sincere apology for the error,”

Just to clarify the discussion, can you tell me again, WHY Akin had to apologize?


27 posted on 08/27/2012 10:37:23 AM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: Theo

Look, if I was a voter in MO and it is Akin vs McCaskill on election day, I will certainly vote for Akin. However, I still think he needs to step aside because, like it or not, he is damaged goods. He cannot raise enough money to overcome the onslaught coming his way over the next 80 days or so. She will be able to put up 20 ads for every one of his. There is no magic wand here. While all the GOP should rally behind him, for whatever reason most are choosing not to.


28 posted on 08/27/2012 10:37:44 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Akin can still quit. If he wasn’t a selfish, egotistical fool he would have done so a week ago. The only person who wants him to stay is his opponent.


29 posted on 08/27/2012 10:41:47 AM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: WILLIALAL

Just to clarify the discussion could you explain why you supposed “conservatives” are spending all your time here shooting your own side in the back day in and day out instead of doing something useful to defeat O and his progressive fascist followers?


30 posted on 08/27/2012 10:48:43 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“What he said was indefensible

Well I guess the same goes for the GOP platform, doesn't it???

and the way he handled it made it worse,” Rove told POLITICO

And what could that have been -- refusing your demand to step aside for one of your own lackeys???

31 posted on 08/27/2012 10:50:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If Akin wins, then it shows that the old white board weasel is wrong and there goes his job. He’s just trying to make sure his “observations” come true.


32 posted on 08/27/2012 10:50:53 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
politico and rove...perfect together.

I wish that fat pimple head would disappear.

33 posted on 08/27/2012 10:52:07 AM PDT by Post5203 (I bought 6 marines a beer at a bar recently and not one said thanks. I won't do that again.)
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To: LRoggy

“WERE GENUINELY OFFENDED”

Which part/s of what he said offended you, specifically?


34 posted on 08/27/2012 10:55:03 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Yep, damn nice art work there. EXACTLY RIGHT!

Rove, Card, and the Bush family should stuff socks in it, wash towels, bath towels, blankets, whatever it takes to clog their pie-hole so they can’t voice an opinion.

How can one group of people get it wrong so often?


35 posted on 08/27/2012 10:55:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: WILLIALAL
The "apology" was for the mention of a perceived medical condition where there is some kind of physical mechanism possessed by women which would prevent pregnancy during extreme trauma like a violent rape.

There came forth several "experts" who said that this is not something that happens, and as proof, a lot of women get pregnant via rape.

I personally think that Aiken's statement about "legitimate" rape could be at the bottom of the controversy. Many cries of "rape" are not that. They start out on a consensual basis, but sometime during, or after the encounter, something changes, and the encounter suddenly becomes "rape"...if you know what I mean. Something like this would naturally cause considerable consternation among a lot of people, and especially, "progressive women"

36 posted on 08/27/2012 10:57:15 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: LRoggy
If Akin loses I want to see EACH Akin supporter write their own mea culpa which would include the admission that not all people who want him to drop out are ESTABLISHMENT types. That some of us WERE GENUINELY OFFENDED by what he said and are bonafide conservatives too.
No mea culpa is necessary when one fights on the side of life (and Christ). The following straightforward quote explains why most people are upset with Akin (you either understand what he's saying or you don't):
Our founders understood that life is a fundamental right granted to us by our Creator and that the government’s role is to protect this right. A government that doesn’t protect innocent life fails at one of its most basic roles. I believe that life begins at conception and I’m appalled that we do not protect the innocent lives of our unborn children. --Todd Akin

37 posted on 08/27/2012 10:58:53 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: MCF
Karl Rove is an establishment Republican. They want Akin to step aside so that they can put one of their own in his place. Have you noticed it's the anti-conservative Republican that keep talking about it.

They want Akin to step aside so they can replace him with another pro-life conservative Republican who can beat the Democrat.

The Democrats want Akin to remain in this race. If you want Akin to remain, you're enabling a Democrat.

38 posted on 08/27/2012 11:00:35 AM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Karl Rove on Monday predicted Rep. Todd Akin will lose by the widest margin of any Republican candidate in modern history if he remains in his Missouri Senate race against Sen. Claire McCaskill.

And this coming from the guy who is withholding funding for anti-McCaskill commercials that he promised to the winner of the Republican primary.

Right now her Leftwaffe controls the airwaves in the battle for Missouri.

Thanks Karl.

39 posted on 08/27/2012 11:02:56 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Free ThinkerNY
When was the last time Tokyo Rove was right?

About anything?

40 posted on 08/27/2012 11:05:56 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Mr. K
But his opponent is a baby-murder supporting, Obama ass-kissing liberal who will NOT repeal Obamacare, GOT IT???

Pick one.

How about this: Akin gets out of the race and is replaced by a pro-life Republican who hasn't shown his stupidity, who will vote to repeal Obamacare and is capable of defeating the Democrat.

We need the Missouri seat. Akin will lose. He'ss a dumbass down by at least 10 points. He will not recover.

41 posted on 08/27/2012 11:06:30 AM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What was Rove’s opinion on the selection of Ryan as VP?


42 posted on 08/27/2012 11:06:40 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Rove can go eat a bag of warm sh•t. He's another POS GOP-e/liberal soreass loser.

Akin Wins By 6pts

Get back to me on Nov 7th.

43 posted on 08/27/2012 11:07:52 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: LRoggy
If Romney loses Missouri because of this ...

He will have only Karl Rove to blame.

Right now due to the withholding of funding, the Leftwaffe of McCaskill and Obama control the skies above.

44 posted on 08/27/2012 11:09:29 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
When was the last time Tokyo Rove was right?

About anything?

The last time he was right about a political race with national consequences was in the last election cycle.

Christine O'Donnell lost the November 2010 U.S. Senate election in Delaware to Chris Coons by 17 points.

Yeah, you're right. Rove doesn't known squat.

45 posted on 08/27/2012 11:10:42 AM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: SamuraiScot
My guess is that Rove is way off on this, unless he actually starts doing ads for McCaskill. Which could happen.

Wouldn't that be an interesting turn of events???

46 posted on 08/27/2012 11:11:36 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Free ThinkerNY

(A) A person makes an error, accepts responsibility for it, makes good the harm he has done to others (to the extent possible) and credibly demonstrates an intention to not repeat it - Forgive and forget

(B) A person makes an error, either denies he made an error at all or says “I am sorry you misinterpreted what I said or did” or something to that effect - do not forgive, do not forget

Clearly, the Democrats are in category (B). They make non-stop hate-filled accusations such as race-baiting, scaring old folks and women, describing Republicans as terrorists, etc., etc., without even embarrassment. Bill Clinton, who would be anathema in our party for his abuse of women, is touted as one of their champions. We NEVER invited Richard Nixon back. He betrayed us as well as the country.

Clearly Todd Akin is not in category (B). But, I am not sure he is in category (A). He let us all down by his gaffe, and he might not be able to make amends by restoring his electability. He may only be able to make amends by withdrawing.

Karl Rove does not do our cause any service by elevating the rhetoric. If Akin doesn’t get it (that he has ruined our opportunity to take this seat from the Democrats), he really might be as stupid as his remark about pregnancy and rape makes him appear to be. But, if he’s just being over-emotional about it, then toning down the rhetoric, speaking with kindness, might work.


47 posted on 08/27/2012 11:11:58 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: hecht

Karl Rove, you blathering jerk...the Dems NEVER apologize for their horrendous crap, when we do YOU, Mr. RINO, need to support OUR GUYS!


48 posted on 08/27/2012 11:14:34 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Poppin’ Fresh HATES conservatives...


49 posted on 08/27/2012 11:16:09 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: All

the fact is NOT conservative, rino, or liberal with regards to akin.

the fact is that akin is an idiot and a fool.

He is a low IQ politicial who is an egomaniac. He only cares about himself.

Conservative stand or RINO never enters the equation.


50 posted on 08/27/2012 11:17:18 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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