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The Birth Certificate Game
To the Point News with permission from the author ^ | August 27, 2012 | Victor Sayre and Dagny D'Anconia

Posted on 08/27/2012 10:22:38 AM PDT by helpfulresearcher

There was a fraud perpetrated by a President of the United States. He was not a natural born citizen so he obfuscated his nativity story. He had all his relevant records destroyed to cover up his fraud, and he and his supporters got away with it.

Does this sound like our current occupant of the White House? Actually, it was another president: Chester A. Arthur, the 21st President of the United States. He attained office due to the assassination of President Garfield. This was in spite of the fact that he was not a natural born citizen, in violation of the US Constitution, Article 2, Section 1. His father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth. The fraud was not discovered until long after his death.

You can repeal a law, but you can’t repeal evidence, and the Naturalization Act of 1790 is unequivocal evidence of exactly what the US Congress meant by “Natural Born Citizen”.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birth; certifigate; constitution; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama
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Full article given with permission:

There was a fraud perpetrated by a President of the United States. He was not a natural born citizen so he obfuscated his nativity story. He had all his relevant records destroyed to cover up his fraud, and he and his supporters got away with it.

Does this sound like our current occupant of the White House? Actually, it was another president: Chester A. Arthur, the 21st President of the United States. He attained office due to the assassination of President Garfield. This was in spite of the fact that he was not a natural born citizen, in violation of the US Constitution, Article 2, Section 1. His father was not a US citizen at the time of his birth. The fraud was not discovered until long after his death.

Only two classes of Citizen are recognized by the US Constitution. The first is a Citizen. Whether by birth or naturalization, all Citizens share the same rights and privileges. The other is a Natural Born Citizen, a separate class defined by different legal conditions and with different privileges, specifically eligibility to the offices of President and Vice President.

Wikipedia’s page on the subject of Natural Born Citizen claims that this term was never defined in law, that we must divine the Founders’ intended meaning by reviewing myriad, conflicting opinions and comments in court cases. This is simply not true. The Founders legislated their definition of that term just two years after the Constitution was ratified, providing clear meaning for a requirement of the highest office of the land. One would expect no less of them:

“And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens” – Naturalization Act 1790

Taking a critical look at this Congressional legislation, we see that “the children of citizens” is an absolute requirement. There are no qualifiers. No exception is made for the child of a non-citizen. The Founders’ definition extends to those who may be born outside the limits of the United States as well. They understood that ambassadors such as Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson would spend years abroad in service to their country, possibly with their families, and did not want to disqualify their own children born during such service.

The US Constitution, written by the Founders, requires the status of Natural Born Citizen to be eligible for the Presidency. This requirement can only be removed through the Amendment process. While the original 1790 Naturalization Act was repealed and replaced by later legislation redefining the means by which one could become a Citizen, the Founders’ intended meaning of Natural Born Citizen still stands.

You can repeal a law, but you can’t repeal evidence, and the Naturalization Act of 1790 is unequivocal evidence of exactly what the US Congress meant by “Natural Born Citizen”.

Some conveniently insist that the 1790 law is no longer in effect or that it does not provide a currently applicable legal definition. Yet, when doubts were raised about the eligibility of John McCain in the 2008 election, the US Senate referenced that law to confirm his status:

“…as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen’ … Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.” – Senate Resolution 511

Birth to US Citizens was thus recognized, in 2008, as the primary condition for Natural Born Citizen status. The Panama Canal Zone was under US Sovereignty until 1977. McCain was born under US Jurisdiction as surely as if he had been born in New Jersey. However, he still had to meet the requirement of birth to Citizen parents to qualify. The definition in the law remains in effect.

Whenever posted, the text of the 1790 law is promptly removed from the Wikipedia page, as it is inconvenient to those trying to cloud the issue and confuse the general public. Furthermore, when this information was posted at a forum owned by a former subsidiary of the New York Times, not only was the posting removed, but perhaps coincidentally, the entire forum was permanently shut down overnight. There has been a concerted effort to keep this information out of the public eye.

There have been no fewer than eight Congressional attempts to remove the Natural Born Citizen requirement from the Presidency since 2003, mostly by Democrats. The only Republican to sponsor them attempted to remove the natural born citizen requirement twice and reduce the citizenship requirement to 20 years. This would in fact nullify the Constitution without the lawful amendments process. All these attempts failed.

We can see that the Founders’ primary intent was that neither parent be a foreign national, which makes good sense. This minimizes the likelihood that either parent will pass down foreign loyalties or ideology to the would-be President that would dilute his bond with his countrymen and his nation’s principles. Case in point, the fellow illegally in the White House today who demonstrates abundant foreign loyalties and ideologies hostile to America.

The birth certificate provided by Barack Obama is an obviously altered document, according to multiple digital forensics experts. Have you ever wondered why such a blatant forgery was presented? Were the Obama handlers that incompetent? Didn’t anybody in the White House care that such a shoddy piece of photoshop work was made public?

The answer lies within our legal system. Obama and his DNC/Holder Justice lawyers are notorious for using the mechanisms of the system to gain power and abuse it, thwarting the law in the process. This is a part of their strategy.

In fact, the ongoing furor over the place of birth is exactly what Obama wants. It is a red herring, a distraction from the fact he cannot legally be a Natural Born Citizen no matter where he was born.

Some have argued that Obama is the result of an affair in Hawaii by Ann Dunham with communist agitator Frank Marshall Davis (a US citizen born in Kansas) – see Dreams of My Real Father. If that were true, it would make Obama a natural born citizen.

However, mere illegitimacy would be unlikely to justify the expense and risk Obama has taken to hide his past. Furthermore, the details of the alleged birth certificate presented by Mr. Obama himself, if false, are a poorly chosen lie because they disqualify him from the Presidency.

It is Barack Obama’s foreign parent – Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. – that disqualifies him. The Democrat-controlled Senate knew this in 2008 when McCain’s eligibility as a Natural Born Citizen was legally resolved. They did not do the same for Obama precisely because he could not meet the legal requirements.

Barack Obama has gone to great lengths to stir up controversy over his place of birth while preventing legal resolution of his eligibility. He could easily provide court access to his original documents but that would, according to the laws above, work against him. That’s why he instead has teams of lawyers scrambling to block any court case seeking access to his original birth documents. Obama’s place of birth is an intentional distraction.

These antics began in mid-2008, well before the election, when Democrat attorney Philip Berg attempted to determine the eligibility of his own party’s candidate. Obama’s obstructionist response revealed Obama’s own knowledge of his legal problem, though the mainstream news media willfully concealed it from the general public and derided anyone who would bring it up as a “Birther”.

“Instead of satisfying Plaintiff and the general public’s concerns regarding Obama’s citizenship status, or lack thereof, Obama and the DNC have chosen to litigate the matters in lieu of providing what should be simple proof. Defendants have filed two [2] Motions to Dismiss and a Motion for a Protective Order instead of simply solving the matters and providing the proof verifying Obama’s citizenship status.” – Berg v. Obama et al

A Judge vetting Obama’s eligibility can only rule based on the legal evidence presented to the court. If Obama’s true birth certificate is presented, then the Judge can take legal notice that Obama’s father was not a US Citizen and disqualify Barack Obama from eligibility for the Presidency.

Obama’s people understood this well in advance and ensured that the only copies of his birth documents that might be obtained by plaintiffs against him were easily identified as “altered” documents, therefore easily disputed as proof in a court of law. It’s a fair bet his own attorneys would dispute their evidentiary value just as they absurdly proclaimed in a Florida court that Obama is not yet the Democrat candidate for 2012 and is therefore immune to lawsuits demanding his eligibility be resolved.

A President of the United States illegally took office while violating the Natural Born Citizen requirements. Not only could it happen; it did happen. Twice. It is a part of history. Barack Obama is not the first to perpetrate that fraud but this time the consequences are more dire. With the news media and cowardly politicians concealing this fact, will the American People be fooled yet a third time?

1 posted on 08/27/2012 10:22:44 AM PDT by helpfulresearcher
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To: helpfulresearcher

I hope and pray when Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan win, along with a win of control of the Senate, they move to prosecute O, Pelosi, Reid, and anyone else, including Holder . . . and then remove the unwise Latina woman and the other one from the Court and appoint replacements. Reverse everything he has done, except you can’t get the money back that he has squandered.


2 posted on 08/27/2012 10:32:38 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Romney/Ryan 2012 The Future of Our Children and Their Children are at stake.)
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To: Qwackertoo

Impeach Elena Kagan too! She should have never participated in the Health Care decision since she worked in the Obama White House and had a clear conflict of interest.


3 posted on 08/27/2012 10:36:10 AM PDT by PBRCat
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To: helpfulresearcher; krogers58

If Obama is an American born citizen, wouldn’t he have been able to get a valid social security card in his home state of Hawaii while he was in high school there?


4 posted on 08/27/2012 10:38:33 AM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: helpfulresearcher
Here's some FACTS.

This disgusting Curse on our Nation named Barack Hussein Obama II, aka Barry Soetoro, has a real birth certificate, with his right footprint on it.
All you have to do is look for it.

Here's some critical sources and FACTS.
People can go to www.scribd.com and read their pages 20 thru 32 ,
For those of you who don't know, remember this:
8 Congressional attempts from June 2004 to February 2008 to alter Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution, proves to meRead it for yourself.
Then look at these links.
Just before the 2008 election Barack Obama's election team spent $1.4 million blocking access to all of Obama's records.

Barack Hussein Obama II is UNCONSTITUTIONALLY QUALIFIED.
There were 8 attempts by Democrats to try to "Change the Qualification Rules" BEFORE Obama was elected.
They KNOW Obama's ILLEGAL ... AND .... UNQUALIFIED!

Obama's record is hard to find.
Check this link out Sunday, June 27, 2004 Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate.

Think about this.
Here's something to ponder. Now think about those facts,and statements.
The forgeries I'm aware of, are the three Birth Cretificate Barack Hussein Obama II has forged.
I don't trust evidence put forth by Obama supporters.
The disappearance of too much evidence on Obama is strong enough for me to know that he was born in Kenya.

Read INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!
The documents provided in that article are very damaging to Obama, and well worth your time.

Most of these early "supporters" of the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF were party to the Communists "spooks".
There's a great volume of history you have to go through to understand this, and it goes back to about 1850.

Read these three articles on one of my earlier post:


Now go back and read The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals.

Are you getting the depth of this Fabian Society takeover?

You wouldn't believe the information here

It's deep, it's ugly, and most people WILL NOT ... CAN NOT ... accept the truth.

Anybody recall a press release telling the masses about federal intelligence notes sent warning police about this cabal?





5 posted on 08/27/2012 10:42:00 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Baynative

His SS card is from Connecticut, a place he didn’t start work in. It should be from Hawaii, bnut it isn’t.


6 posted on 08/27/2012 10:42:12 AM PDT by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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To: Qwackertoo
That is a dream. I share it but it's not going to happen. The business of pulling this country out of the death spiral it's in will take the full effort of new administration.

I'm hoping that much of the bogus stuff can be reversed by executive orders and some of the misappropriated revenues can be recovered by the courts. If they named a special prosecutor to investigate criminal behavior by elected officials over the last years it would set a precedent which would paralyze future administrations.

7 posted on 08/27/2012 10:46:48 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.)
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To: helpfulresearcher; Seizethecarp

The article fails to mention that every time that a state official, when given a chance to rule on the Natural Born Citizen clause, has punted away the opportunity and equated it with a Native Born Citizen. This was the result in Indiana, Florida, Arizona and Georgia.

Therefore, the possibility of a birth abroad is far more damaging than another tired argument about Natural Born Citizens.


8 posted on 08/27/2012 11:01:22 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: helpfulresearcher
You're not going to believe this!
The LAME Stream Media won't report it, either.

9 posted on 08/27/2012 11:22:00 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: helpfulresearcher
The "money quotes":

You can repeal a law, but you can’t repeal evidence, and the Naturalization Act of 1790 is unequivocal evidence of exactly what the US Congress meant by “Natural Born Citizen”.

And the children of citizens [PLURAL!] of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens" – Naturalization Act 1790

"In fact, the ongoing furor over the place of birth is exactly what Obama wants. It is a red herring, a distraction from the fact he cannot legally be a Natural Born Citizen no matter where he was born."

10 posted on 08/27/2012 11:29:23 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Yosemitest

Everything Obama did from the moment he was sworn in illegally should be struck as null and void, better to clean up the spilt milk than to cover it with a new floor.

The only real trusted patriots in America are the ones who believe Obama is an usurper.


11 posted on 08/27/2012 11:35:45 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: Eye of Unk

Obama should be tried for Treason, along with all the Democrats who certified him.


12 posted on 08/27/2012 11:38:41 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: helpfulresearcher
>"mere illegitimacy would be unlikely to justify the expense and risk Obama has taken to hide his past."


13 posted on 08/27/2012 11:46:10 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Hmmm.....I already see a problem with this “Birth Certificate”.

The dates provided. Only in the US and a few select places do they order the date mm/dd/yyyy. Most of the world orders the date dd/mm/yyyy.

It would seem strange that a Kenyan document would do this, and yet this date order appears 3 times, once typed and twice in handwriting.


14 posted on 08/27/2012 12:06:52 PM PDT by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: Fractal Trader

The possibility of a birth abroad is unproven and remains difficult to prove. The legal reason he cannot be President, his lack of Natural Born Citizen status, is proven and apparently indisputable (unless his father was someone else).

The strongest case against Obama is that he is not a Natural Born Citizen due to his foreign Father. We need not seek any other ‘proof’ than what Obama himself has presented. Yet, as you say, various courts have punted on the opportunity to make a ruling and have him removed from the Presidency. Why?

Fear.

Public servants and Judges at all levels know full well that the Left have been conditioning their followers to tear this nation apart from the inside if their coup is thwarted. Even John McCain declined to challenge rampant Democrat voter fraud because of fear that Obama supporters, gathered on the streets by the millions, weeping over their ‘historic opportunity’ to hand a guy the Presidency because of the color of his skin, would become violent if he were blocked from taking office.

“After discussions with his inner circle, which explains the delay in his speech, McCain decided not to pursue the voter fraud in PA and Ohio, despite his staff’s desire to make it an issue. He said no. Staff felt they could get a federal injunction to stop the process. McCain felt the crowds assembled in support of Obama and such would be detrimental to our country and it would do our nation no good for this to drag out like last go around, coupled with the possibility of domestic violence.”

And that’s how the communist coup in America succeeded, via the threat of violence should they be stopped. History will record that cowardice allowed our nation’s enemies to take control of the system of government and use it to “fundamentally transform”, to DESTROY, what Americans worked so hard to create.

And those enemies weren’t even keeping their ambitions a secret.

“The need for de-development [of the United States] presents our economists with a major challenge. They must design a stable, low-consumption economy in which there is a much more equitable distribution of wealth than in the present one. Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential” - John Holdren, Science Czar to Barack Obama

Take down the US, pillage its wealth and redistribute to other nations, make the world more “fair” for corrupt leaders salivating for a share of the spoils. It is happening. Right now. It cannot be undone.


15 posted on 08/27/2012 12:08:33 PM PDT by Speak2Truth (The Man in Black)
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel

At least it isn’t Frankensteined together with Photoshop and adobe, like the 3 he has submitted to the public so far.


16 posted on 08/27/2012 12:40:19 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: Yosemitest

“Can one doubt HIS OWN ADMISSION?”

Yes, when the video is obviously spliced in numerous places to fake an “admission” that Barry has never made. This has been debunked. It would be best not to keep posting it on FR.


17 posted on 08/27/2012 1:12:53 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Speak2Truth

You’re talking about a strategy that is already 0 for 4 in local jurisdictions trying to remove him from the ballot for NBC issues. And other judges can cite these cases as precedence. No way that by November, any official authority will declare Obama ineligible for the ballot on NBC grounds.

And, if he is re-elected, his chances of being asked to leave are moot — there have been countless efforts (starting with Berg and Donofrio) to disqualify him from office because of his NBC status; none has ever made it to trial


18 posted on 08/27/2012 1:13:42 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Seizethecarp
You have provided no "PROOF".
Where's your link?

Judging from your comments past, you're nothing but an Obama troll, duped by the "ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF".
19 posted on 08/27/2012 1:24:59 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Fractal Trader

What you’re saying is that our legal system cannot be used to put an end to this coup, to remove the illegal usurper in the White House, because the courts refuse to take the case. I agree. They refuse primarily on the grounds that the plaintiffs lack “standing”, among other excuses (”it’s already been twittered” is one of my favorites).

Yes, Obama has been successful in preventing his legal birth document from being entered into evidence. The courts have failed in their sworn duty to uphold our Constitution. They even sent Lt. Col. Terry Lakin to prison rather than uphold the Constitution by requiring the Commander in Chief to demonstrate legal eligibility for the job.

That’s how effective the “consolidation of power” by this communist coup is. The highest law of the land cannot be upheld, through the system, to remove the illegal occupiers from office, precisely because individual people fear to stick their necks out and defend the law.

This is a bad re-run of Communist takeovers of other nations. And it’s not over yet.

Obama’s good buddy, the communist Van Jones, is teamed up with Obama’s political mentor, the communist terrorist William Ayers. They are training the Occupy people to engage in violent activities similar to what we have seen abroad recently, as in Greece, when the Left’s power is challenged. Ayers helped train the mobs that overthrew Egypt and he’s good at that game. These vicious Communists are preparing for the day the American People exert their Sovereign right to uphold their own Constitution via the 2nd Amendment.

Look how far the Leftists are pushing this nation. They’re willing to destroy it without a shot fired, bankrupting us via the mechanisms of our own government, or through violence by sparking a civil war between Americans and the Leftists trying to hold on to power. Either way, if they can crash and burn the USA, the long-term goal is accomplished.

It is the doom of this nation that half the population is too stupid and ignorant to comprehend the danger of allowing Leftists anywhere near the reins of power. Too late. We are in for some interesting times.

However, the article stands on its own merits as a demonstration of the fact Obama is NOT legally President and he knows it. So do a whole lot of other people.

The first step in fixing the problem is to admit that there is a problem. This one will not be swept under the rug.


20 posted on 08/27/2012 1:52:07 PM PDT by Speak2Truth (The Man in Black)
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To: Yosemitest; Admin Moderator; Fractal Trader; philman_36; Plummz
“You have provided no ‘PROOF.”

Any FReeper can verify for themselves that this debunked video of Obama you posted, supposedly stating he was born in Kenya, is jerky and discontinuous and/or his mouth is not visible speaking the incriminating words exactly at the moments when he supposedly says those words.

Yosemitest has also repeatedly also posted the debunked “Bomford” BC.

I am proud of my FR posting history which has been dedicated to examining verifiable forensic evidence about Barry.

21 posted on 08/27/2012 2:11:11 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Yosemitest

America ? You didn’t birth THAT !


22 posted on 08/27/2012 2:16:53 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Seizethecarp
Obviously you can't!
Where's the link?
Put up or shut up!
Or are you incapable of creating a link?
23 posted on 08/27/2012 7:05:03 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest; philman_36

See links at the following FR comment proving that the video at your link seeming to show Obama admitting a Kenyan birth was corrupted, a comment which you have already been pinged on:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2923243/posts?q=1&;page=157

If the Birther Issue Comes Up in Debate

Monday, August 27, 2012 6:14:28 PM · 157 of 168
philman_36 to lentulusgracchus; mkjessup; DeaconRed; sueQ; Seizethecarp; Yosemitest; Fractal Trader; Plummz; ...

The video in question...here

The President Talks with Students in Turkey 33:12

Tophane Cultural Center Istanbul, Turkey
You know, in terms of my election, I think that what people felt good about was it affirmed the sense that America is still a land of opportunity. I was not born into wealth. I wasn’t born into fame.
Background setting, audience members, transcript...

A spoof of his speech!

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24 posted on 08/27/2012 8:18:09 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I see no proof in that link.


25 posted on 08/27/2012 10:44:35 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: Yosemitest

The argument about the Obama video is pointless. Even if he spoke words claiming to be born in Kenya, that does not resolve the legal question and those words out of his mouth are not what would make him legally President or not.

The only thing that matters is the topic of this article - whether he meets the requirements for Natural Born Citizen.

Born to a foreign subject, Obama cannot legally be a Natural Born Citizen under the law, the same law applied in 2008 by the US Senate when confirming that John McCain is eligible. The law requires birth to American Citizens to qualify and has since 1790.

All the surrounding hearsay, even the question of “where” Obama was born, is just a distraction.

The US is now ruled by a communist coup and the “fundamental transformation” is underway.

“He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation” - US Declaration of Independence


26 posted on 08/28/2012 10:54:13 AM PDT by Speak2Truth (The Man in Black)
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To: Speak2Truth
"he spoke words claiming to be born in Kenya" ...
Born to a foreign subject, Obama cannot legally be a Natural Born Citizen under the law ...
The law requires birth to American Citizens to qualify and has since 1790. ...
The US is now ruled by a communist coup and the “fundamental transformation” is underway."
I agree.
He's not qualified.
27 posted on 08/28/2012 11:39:28 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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