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For first time, Californians will be able to register to vote online
Ventura County Star ^ | August 23, 2012 | Tim Herdt

Posted on 08/27/2012 10:34:37 AM PDT by re_tail20

Beginning next month, Californians for the first time will be able to use the Internet to register to vote, giving them about six weeks of online access to register in time to participate in the Nov. 6 presidential election.

In an advisory sent late Wednesday, the office of Secretary of State Debra Bowen informed the state's 58 county elections officers that the California Online Voter Registration System is in its final stages of testing and will become operational in early September. Software upgrades are scheduled to be electronically transmitted to the counties Friday, with online training for local officials to be conducted next week.

"It's really huge," said Secretary of State Debra Bowen. "I think it will be extremely popular and am very hopeful it will increase voter registration."

For about the last year, the state has offered a web-based registration process — but the last step is cumbersome. The voter must print, sign and mail the registration form that he or she filled out.

The new system will be what Bowen called "a one-click process."

"That's fantastic news for Californians," said Kim Alexander, president and founder of the nonprofit California Voter Foundation. "I think this will be very popular among eligible voters. I think it will facilitate potentially hundreds of thousands of users."

Gov. Jerry Brown last fall signed a law authorizing the development of the system, which involves the secretary of state and the Department of Motor Vehicles coordinating their databases in a way that will allow elections officials to authenticate a new registrant's identity and obtain a digitized copy of his or her signature.

The law gave Bowen as much time as necessary to perfect the system, and she said her office has made its development a top priority...

(Excerpt) Read more at vcstar.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: californiavoting; debrabowen; voterid; voterregistration; voting

1 posted on 08/27/2012 10:34:44 AM PDT by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

CA will be detroit (to the extent that it isn’t already) in 5 years.


2 posted on 08/27/2012 10:39:49 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: re_tail20

Great news! How do I register to vote in California? I’m a resident of Illinois. /s


3 posted on 08/27/2012 10:41:33 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Get a phone book, open it, throw a dart ...

THAT'S your house.

LATIMES states the 2012 pop. is 37.7 million.

California will cast 112 million votes, surprisingly 7/8 of those votes will be for zero.

I mean .. they LOVE him out there, man.

4 posted on 08/27/2012 10:48:16 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: re_tail20

I think that, similar to other state online voter registration systems, you will need a California driver’s license or a California state identification card in order to register.


5 posted on 08/27/2012 10:48:47 AM PDT by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

The line for massive vote fraud forms to the left.


6 posted on 08/27/2012 10:50:29 AM PDT by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: 1rudeboy

It’s easy. Just get a CA driver’s license. We just received our registration from IL, we have our absentee for CA and another state just sent us one. They don’t seem to care if you have a license in those states..so vote early and vote often.


7 posted on 08/27/2012 10:51:26 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: re_tail20
I think that, similar to other state online voter registration systems, you will need access to the information found on somebody's California driver’s license or a California state identification card in order to register.
8 posted on 08/27/2012 10:51:45 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to watch you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: re_tail20

Illegal aliens are being given California driver’s licenses under 0bama’s amnesty plan.


9 posted on 08/27/2012 10:52:05 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: 1rudeboy
Great news! How do I register to vote in California? I’m a resident of Illinois. /s

Easy = fill out a voter registration card and lie about your address. It's a felony, and that's something you can do on a printed-out form just as easy (actually, easier) than you can online.

10 posted on 08/27/2012 10:54:16 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: re_tail20

In a way, I think this system is better than we have now.

Because one election cycle, I voted a straight Republican ticket, then during the next election cycle, I was “magically” purged from the registration rolls, even though I hadn’t moved or had done anything to give the government reason to purge my registration. I voted provisionally and had to fight to make it count, even though it didn’t make a difference in the election.

With electronic registration, I can at least make sure I am always registered without going through a government bureaucrat who can chuck my registration card in the bin.


11 posted on 08/27/2012 10:56:38 AM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: 1rudeboy

You laugh, but the quicker we can register 200 million people to vote in a state with 30 million residents, the quicker we can totally expose this folly.


12 posted on 08/27/2012 10:58:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Illegal aliens are being given California driver’s licenses under 0bama’s amnesty plan.

And approximately 50 states have given legal immigrants driver's licenses for decades. A driver's license isn't proof of citizenship, but it is proof of identity. And the online voter registration system requires proof of identity, which the old paper form does not require. This is a step in the right direction, imho.

13 posted on 08/27/2012 10:59:58 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: re_tail20
The voter must print, sign and mail the registration form that he or she filled out

...ok thats good , the ICE agents when they will be able to do their job next year, will be able to track down suspicious names and addresses.....don't worry Paco, it's ok, they only want you to write and let them know where you are....*smiles*

14 posted on 08/27/2012 11:05:53 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Alter Kaker

I agree

Online voting registration isn’t a cure all, but it’s the next step in the right direction. Over time, it will eat away at all the paper registration forms. Also, it’s easier to read and be sure of the information in online registration, as opposed to the handwriting on many of the paper forms. So over time, it will tighten up the voting rolls and make it more cumbersome to try to attempt voter fraud.


15 posted on 08/27/2012 11:17:13 AM PDT by re_tail20
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To: re_tail20

I don’t want it to be hard to register or vote, but some states, including California, go too far to make it too easy.

I remember Jeff Greenfield, a now-retired, quite liberal commentator for ABC News, speaking on-air against California’s (or some other state’s) “Motor Voter” law, whereby someone getting a driver’s license or renewal was AUTOMATICALLY registered to vote unless s/he opted out manually. Greenfield’s point was that it’s already very easy to register, in that anyone can get a postage-paid form for free either at a post office, library, government building or even by mail (by calling a toll-free number). Isn’t that already easy enough?, he asked. Do we really WANT the marginal, added votes of folks who, in this easy-register system, STILL aren’t registered? How motivated could such folks be, to make good voting decisions? And agree.

This latest step just makes it worse, of course.

What next? Mandatory voting, like in Australia? (A step that resulted in a still center-right nation routinely electing left-Labour governments.)


16 posted on 08/27/2012 11:39:11 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Alter Kaker

In Kalifornicate: the candidate or measure with the most votes wins even when there are enough votes that are verified as illegitimate thus proving a loss. And invariably, no one ever goes to jail for vote fraud in Kalifornicate. This e registration does one thing, it broadens the allowance for vote fraud to be legal and on a larger scale.


17 posted on 08/27/2012 11:47:55 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: drypowder
Just because you say it doesn't mean it's true. There's not a single person who will be able to register to vote online who can't do so offline with an old fashioned paper form. In no way does this make the registration process more open to fraud -- on the contrary, it requires people to provide proof that they are who they say they are, which is something that the paper forms don't require.

If you're against this, I'm not sure what exactly it is that you support -- banning all voter registration?

18 posted on 08/27/2012 12:19:48 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: re_tail20

Ah....the Californian RATS finally get their wish.....illegals can now vote online.


19 posted on 08/27/2012 12:31:27 PM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It’s already possible to do more things with a abentee ballot than a monkey does with a peanut.

Imageine the voter fraud possiblilties with ‘on line’ ballots.

Makes your head spin!


20 posted on 08/27/2012 12:57:59 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Alter Kaker
I'm not sure what exactly it is that you support

voter registration is good as long as one can PROVE one is a CITIZEN and is ELIGABLE to vote. As mentioned in my previous post, once an election declares a winner, the person is sworn in and for some reason, that is the point of no return for the seat. Vetting the voter who registers to vote on the day of an election will 30 days or more and well after the perceived winner will have been sworn in. I favor the good old way where on has to register 30+ days In advance of an election and has to prove eligibility to register. Absentee ballots should not be allowed as well as the motor-voter registration should not be allowed. One live and legal person, one vote. Any degree of ambiguity in the validity of our voting system will be exploited to the hilt and we then get what we now have, a corrupted political system where politicians as well as judges are bought all the time so there has been no accountability or legal recourse to overturn an illegitimate election. Some would say, oh, that's just politics. I say, NO, that's political corruption and it has bankrupted this country. I like the idea one going in to a booth and casting a vote and then dipping one's finger in ink, period.

21 posted on 08/27/2012 1:06:54 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: re_tail20
...the [current system] last step is cumbersome. The voter must print, sign and mail the registration form that he or she filled out.

HORRORS!! How cumbersome is that? Clearly an attempt to prevent minorities from voting because 1) they have to know how to use a printer, 2) they have to know how to sign their name, 3) they have to know how to put a sheet of paper in an envelope and seal same, 4) they have to know how to affix a stamp, and 5) they have to know how to find a mailbox and drop in a letter.

Yep, no doubt about it -- minority disenfranchisement!

22 posted on 08/27/2012 2:26:01 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: pogo101
What next? Mandatory voting, like in Australia?

Of course. It's a Democrat Party goal.

23 posted on 08/27/2012 2:34:05 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 71 days away.)
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To: drypowder
I hear your concerns, but I think they are bogus.

1. You want people to prove that they're citizens and eligible.

How do you do that? A birth certificate, naturalization document or passport can prove citizenship but many valid citizens don't have them, and many people who do have those documents aren't eligible voters because they've committed crimes. In states that restrict felon voting rights, how can you prove that you've never been convicted of a felony? Maybe in that state it is easy, but in another state? And then there's the issue of proving that you live in the address you say you live in. How do you do that?

This is complicated stuff, but none of this has anything to do with registering online vs. through the mail. There's nothing less secure about registering to vote online.

24 posted on 08/27/2012 5:32:11 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

I agree with you that policing voter eligibility through the registration process is at least difficult but I do not believe, with time, that it is impossible. Voters should be vetted prior to an election, not afterwords. Our current system is rife and open for fraud because that is the way our politicians want it and apparently they are attempting to make vote fraud even easier. As is commonly known, hacking and intrusion of ones privacy is common on the web regardless of the encryption, fail safes and walls so no matter how hard we try, the internet is not secure. It would be hard to convince me that incorporating the internet will somehow make our voting system more secure. Not to preach but our vote lies at the very foundation of our republic’s legitimacy and it needs to be protected at all costs. A government by and for the people depend on it and our government is failing on this issue.


25 posted on 08/27/2012 8:20:13 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: kenmcg; SMARTY

Reading is fundamental. This law does not allow online voting. It allows online voter registration. Biggggg difference.


26 posted on 08/27/2012 8:25:38 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: re_tail20
Some of these posts read like FactCheck...
27 posted on 08/28/2012 3:53:14 AM PDT by Does so (....... Justice Scalia just turned 78 .........==8-O ............They don't think ... they PLOT!)
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To: Alter Kaker

RIGHT: On line registration-on line voting

BIG DIFFERENCE

SAME SECURITY LIABILITY


28 posted on 08/28/2012 4:40:03 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SMARTY
RIGHT: On line registration-on line voting BIG DIFFERENCE SAME SECURITY LIABILITY

Nope -- anybody can submit a bogus voter registration form either online or on paper. However, local elections officials have the ability to examine the application and determine if they're valid or not. There's no reason to believe a bogus form submitted online is any more bogus (or hard to detect) than a bogus form submitted in paper. Voting is totally different -- because it's a one time event and there's no easy way to investigate voters after the fact. Because it's a one time event and because numbers -- not data -- are what matter voting is much more problematic online than registration.

29 posted on 08/28/2012 6:31:14 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
“...local elections officials have the ability to examine the application and determine if they're valid or not.”

Saying local election officiela have the 'ability' to examine applications is one thing-whether or not they would do their jobs in an unbiased way is another thing. Who ever said they could be trusted?

They can't even run clean hard-copy ballot elections.

The Bush-Gore fiasco in Florida exposed all the entrenched and compromised voting officials...just in case anyone out there STILL thought of them as being irreproachable. THEY ARE NOT.... and THAT'S how “O” got himself elected.

30 posted on 08/28/2012 6:50:48 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SMARTY
Saying local election officiela have the 'ability' to examine applications is one thing-whether or not they would do their jobs in an unbiased way is another thing. Who ever said they could be trusted?

So if you don't want elections officials to run elections, who do you want? Highway officials? Baristas?

31 posted on 08/28/2012 7:27:12 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
The idea would be 'honest' and 'accountable' election officials. The ones I run into and have heard horror stories about (increasingly) are not honest or accountable either.

I remember going to vote and being asked, ‘Republican or Democrat’. When I answered ‘Republican’, she said “Oh, one of THOSE”.

Voter fraud is everywhere where there is NO ONE accountable or watchful. Democrats wrote the book on voter fraud-up to and INCLUDING corrupt election officials.

32 posted on 08/28/2012 7:37:48 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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