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For first time, Californians will be able to register to vote online
Ventura County Star ^ | August 23, 2012 | Tim Herdt

Posted on 08/27/2012 10:34:37 AM PDT by re_tail20

Beginning next month, Californians for the first time will be able to use the Internet to register to vote, giving them about six weeks of online access to register in time to participate in the Nov. 6 presidential election.

In an advisory sent late Wednesday, the office of Secretary of State Debra Bowen informed the state's 58 county elections officers that the California Online Voter Registration System is in its final stages of testing and will become operational in early September. Software upgrades are scheduled to be electronically transmitted to the counties Friday, with online training for local officials to be conducted next week.

"It's really huge," said Secretary of State Debra Bowen. "I think it will be extremely popular and am very hopeful it will increase voter registration."

For about the last year, the state has offered a web-based registration process — but the last step is cumbersome. The voter must print, sign and mail the registration form that he or she filled out.

The new system will be what Bowen called "a one-click process."

"That's fantastic news for Californians," said Kim Alexander, president and founder of the nonprofit California Voter Foundation. "I think this will be very popular among eligible voters. I think it will facilitate potentially hundreds of thousands of users."

Gov. Jerry Brown last fall signed a law authorizing the development of the system, which involves the secretary of state and the Department of Motor Vehicles coordinating their databases in a way that will allow elections officials to authenticate a new registrant's identity and obtain a digitized copy of his or her signature.

The law gave Bowen as much time as necessary to perfect the system, and she said her office has made its development a top priority...

(Excerpt) Read more at vcstar.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: californiavoting; debrabowen; voterid; voterregistration; voting
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To: Alter Kaker
I'm not sure what exactly it is that you support

voter registration is good as long as one can PROVE one is a CITIZEN and is ELIGABLE to vote. As mentioned in my previous post, once an election declares a winner, the person is sworn in and for some reason, that is the point of no return for the seat. Vetting the voter who registers to vote on the day of an election will 30 days or more and well after the perceived winner will have been sworn in. I favor the good old way where on has to register 30+ days In advance of an election and has to prove eligibility to register. Absentee ballots should not be allowed as well as the motor-voter registration should not be allowed. One live and legal person, one vote. Any degree of ambiguity in the validity of our voting system will be exploited to the hilt and we then get what we now have, a corrupted political system where politicians as well as judges are bought all the time so there has been no accountability or legal recourse to overturn an illegitimate election. Some would say, oh, that's just politics. I say, NO, that's political corruption and it has bankrupted this country. I like the idea one going in to a booth and casting a vote and then dipping one's finger in ink, period.

21 posted on 08/27/2012 1:06:54 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: re_tail20
...the [current system] last step is cumbersome. The voter must print, sign and mail the registration form that he or she filled out.

HORRORS!! How cumbersome is that? Clearly an attempt to prevent minorities from voting because 1) they have to know how to use a printer, 2) they have to know how to sign their name, 3) they have to know how to put a sheet of paper in an envelope and seal same, 4) they have to know how to affix a stamp, and 5) they have to know how to find a mailbox and drop in a letter.

Yep, no doubt about it -- minority disenfranchisement!

22 posted on 08/27/2012 2:26:01 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: pogo101
What next? Mandatory voting, like in Australia?

Of course. It's a Democrat Party goal.

23 posted on 08/27/2012 2:34:05 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 71 days away.)
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To: drypowder
I hear your concerns, but I think they are bogus.

1. You want people to prove that they're citizens and eligible.

How do you do that? A birth certificate, naturalization document or passport can prove citizenship but many valid citizens don't have them, and many people who do have those documents aren't eligible voters because they've committed crimes. In states that restrict felon voting rights, how can you prove that you've never been convicted of a felony? Maybe in that state it is easy, but in another state? And then there's the issue of proving that you live in the address you say you live in. How do you do that?

This is complicated stuff, but none of this has anything to do with registering online vs. through the mail. There's nothing less secure about registering to vote online.

24 posted on 08/27/2012 5:32:11 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

I agree with you that policing voter eligibility through the registration process is at least difficult but I do not believe, with time, that it is impossible. Voters should be vetted prior to an election, not afterwords. Our current system is rife and open for fraud because that is the way our politicians want it and apparently they are attempting to make vote fraud even easier. As is commonly known, hacking and intrusion of ones privacy is common on the web regardless of the encryption, fail safes and walls so no matter how hard we try, the internet is not secure. It would be hard to convince me that incorporating the internet will somehow make our voting system more secure. Not to preach but our vote lies at the very foundation of our republic’s legitimacy and it needs to be protected at all costs. A government by and for the people depend on it and our government is failing on this issue.


25 posted on 08/27/2012 8:20:13 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: kenmcg; SMARTY

Reading is fundamental. This law does not allow online voting. It allows online voter registration. Biggggg difference.


26 posted on 08/27/2012 8:25:38 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: re_tail20
Some of these posts read like FactCheck...
27 posted on 08/28/2012 3:53:14 AM PDT by Does so (....... Justice Scalia just turned 78 .........==8-O ............They don't think ... they PLOT!)
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To: Alter Kaker

RIGHT: On line registration-on line voting

BIG DIFFERENCE

SAME SECURITY LIABILITY


28 posted on 08/28/2012 4:40:03 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SMARTY
RIGHT: On line registration-on line voting BIG DIFFERENCE SAME SECURITY LIABILITY

Nope -- anybody can submit a bogus voter registration form either online or on paper. However, local elections officials have the ability to examine the application and determine if they're valid or not. There's no reason to believe a bogus form submitted online is any more bogus (or hard to detect) than a bogus form submitted in paper. Voting is totally different -- because it's a one time event and there's no easy way to investigate voters after the fact. Because it's a one time event and because numbers -- not data -- are what matter voting is much more problematic online than registration.

29 posted on 08/28/2012 6:31:14 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
“...local elections officials have the ability to examine the application and determine if they're valid or not.”

Saying local election officiela have the 'ability' to examine applications is one thing-whether or not they would do their jobs in an unbiased way is another thing. Who ever said they could be trusted?

They can't even run clean hard-copy ballot elections.

The Bush-Gore fiasco in Florida exposed all the entrenched and compromised voting officials...just in case anyone out there STILL thought of them as being irreproachable. THEY ARE NOT.... and THAT'S how “O” got himself elected.

30 posted on 08/28/2012 6:50:48 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SMARTY
Saying local election officiela have the 'ability' to examine applications is one thing-whether or not they would do their jobs in an unbiased way is another thing. Who ever said they could be trusted?

So if you don't want elections officials to run elections, who do you want? Highway officials? Baristas?

31 posted on 08/28/2012 7:27:12 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
The idea would be 'honest' and 'accountable' election officials. The ones I run into and have heard horror stories about (increasingly) are not honest or accountable either.

I remember going to vote and being asked, ‘Republican or Democrat’. When I answered ‘Republican’, she said “Oh, one of THOSE”.

Voter fraud is everywhere where there is NO ONE accountable or watchful. Democrats wrote the book on voter fraud-up to and INCLUDING corrupt election officials.

32 posted on 08/28/2012 7:37:48 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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