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Bill Nye ‘The Science Guy’ Hits Evolution Deniers
abcnews.go.com ^ | Aug 27, 2012 | Kevin Dolak

Posted on 08/27/2012 1:42:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: tjd1454
Question: define "fittest" (this is a problem for evolutionists, because there is absolutely no way to determine the 'fittest' of a species beforehand: this only becomes clear after observing which members of the species manage to survive over time) Hence the answer: "those who survive"

silliness, survive = reproduce

those that survive to reproduce are the 'fittest'

51 posted on 08/27/2012 3:05:50 PM PDT by consultant
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To: Joe 6-pack

We’ve seen species disappear. We’ve seen species that were thought to be extinct re-emerge in small numbers. We’ve seen plants and animals migrate (via hobbyists/scientists/shipping) to new regions of the world where sometimes they thrive.

New lifeforms springing up, not so much.


52 posted on 08/27/2012 3:08:27 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
"Well, those words are key, aren’t they? all it takes is a “small minority” for evolution to work."

True enough, but in that regard, intelligent design is a more rational theory.

I can, for example, imagine the types of mutations that would slowly change a reptilian scale into a more feather-like structure, and give it's bearer certain advantages in flight characteristics. By that same token, even beneficial mutations typically come as a trade off and have some disadvantage for the advantage they provide. If it was only one individual, or even just one brood that bore the initial mutation, the chances of it/them surviving and succesfully transmitting the mutation would be more probable if they were "meant to."

53 posted on 08/27/2012 3:10:21 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: massgopguy

“Evolution does not explain Creation.” - Charles Darwin

“Creation does not disprove evolution.” - Me


54 posted on 08/27/2012 3:11:09 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So, this guy hosted a kid’s show for five years, ending 14 years ago... Why is his opinion at all relevant?


55 posted on 08/27/2012 3:15:50 PM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Nye realizes that he has long jumped the shark, and is doing his best to be relevant.

Ask any 8 yr. old now who Bill Nye is.... I bet it is close to 1-5% know.

56 posted on 08/27/2012 3:16:00 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Walkingfeather

Yeah ... but that “evening and morning” thing puts a damper on any attempt to get away from a literal day.


57 posted on 08/27/2012 3:26:24 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“it’s very much analogous to trying to do geology without believing in tectonic plates”

But of course those tectonic plates cannot be more than 6,000 years old /s


58 posted on 08/27/2012 3:38:24 PM PDT by PatHimself
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Please demonstrate how life came from non-living and maybe I will accept that some of evolution is valid.


59 posted on 08/27/2012 3:40:51 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Based on my understanding of the scientific method, to "deny a theory" is an oxymoron.


60 posted on 08/27/2012 4:13:04 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: consultant
silliness, survive = reproduce

those that survive to reproduce are the 'fittest'

Your attempt to salvage the tautology conundrum of evolutionists is in itself an exercise in futility. If you insist on changing the definition of "survive" to mean "reproduce," you are required to apply the definition uniformly, not selectively to one side of the equation.

Thus, "The survival = those who survive to reproduce, of the fittest = those who survive to reproduce."

The absurdity of the tautology is not mitigated: "Those who survive to reproduce are those who survive to reproduce."

One day, when this life has run its course, we will all stand before the One whose existence and creative work shall be denied no more. In that hour the atheistic fantasy that everything we know is the result of blind chance will evaporate as so much ash and smoke.

61 posted on 08/27/2012 4:42:23 PM PDT by tjd1454
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To: Just mythoughts

“It is no valid objection that science as yet throws no light on the far higher problem of the essence or origin of life” (Darwin, Charles. The Origin of Species. 6th edition, 1882. p. 421).


62 posted on 08/27/2012 4:43:00 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, Theres a higher power ,They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: US Navy Vet
“My church teaches creation, but it doesn’t deny evolution.”, YOU need to find a new church. If a “church” cannot get Genesis right then EVERYTHING else they “teach” is suspect.

If my church started spewing nonsense about the earth being 6,000 years old, I'd laugh my way out the door.

63 posted on 08/27/2012 4:57:01 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; All
Bill Nye is a big hero of the Left. He pushes man-made global warming and he's an Obama supporter.

On this topic of saving the children from creationism, he's a Chicken Little alarmist. There will be no shortage of scientists in the near future.

Here's the video in question: Bill Nye: Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children

64 posted on 08/27/2012 4:58:37 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Tailgunner Joe; All
Regarding the "Obama supporter" link in my previous post, here's one that won't redirect to a sign-up page.
65 posted on 08/27/2012 5:39:12 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Beelzebubba

The Bible and evolution are incompatible.

Genesis says that suffering and death came into the world after Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden. Evolution says that man didn’t show up on the scene until millions of years of suffering and death had already happened.


66 posted on 08/27/2012 5:53:13 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

liked his show, but definitely wrong on creation/evolution.

God claims all will be without excuse, evidence for Him and His fingerprints are all over creation-let alone everyone’s individual soul which only faith in Jesus can fill!

-J.S.


67 posted on 08/27/2012 6:12:29 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: Drew68

So I guess since you can’t trust Genesis to be accurate, tell me how do you chose what else to believe in the Bible?

What about the geneology from Adam through David to Christ?? Was that accurate? Or how about Jesus and the Appostles statements that they believed in the global flood?

Tell me how do you chose?


68 posted on 08/27/2012 6:15:28 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: fwdude

“Let love explode and bring the dead to life”-Newsboys.

Yeah I had to get that in there.


69 posted on 08/27/2012 6:19:41 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: JSDude1

There has to be a BASIS of truth,
and you can pick God’s Word, or you can pick your own understanding and reason. But tell me, what is that “reason and understanding” based on? How do you know it’s sound? You don’t.

If you pick human reason and understanding, you’re planting your feet firmly in mid-air and saying you stand on truth.

If you say “I will choose, decide, and interpret the Bible, saying it’s true here, untrue there, and alegorized in another place”, you’re still putting your human reason and understanding ABOVE the scripture as the basis of truth.

Most humanists don’t even understand what they are basing their worldview on, much less understand that it’s a vapor.


70 posted on 08/28/2012 5:18:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Yep, there are multiple reasons why you can’t compromise with the world on this.

Too bad, folks. You gotta choose, and face the consequences of that choice.

Worldly scorn for choosing scripture as the source of truth,
or Devine scorn for choosing man’s “wisdom” as your source of truth.

(”you will be as gods, knowing good and evil”)


71 posted on 08/28/2012 5:23:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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Christians need to to get beyond the stories we were all taught in Sunday school and learn about the three earth ages. Jesus talked about “the world that was, the world that is and the world that is to come”.
Research the KATABOLE, or “throwing down” of Satan and his angels after the rebellion.

Noah’s flood was not the first!


72 posted on 08/28/2012 7:23:04 AM PDT by Keith Warner
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To: CatherineofAragon

The Bible and evolution are incompatible.


So are the two creation stories in Genesis, if you take them as documentary scientific reporting.


73 posted on 08/28/2012 8:00:49 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: Beelzebubba

There’s only one creation story.

The first thing that occurs to me about Genesis isn’t that it’s “documentary science”, since all those principles known to us as “science” are part of God’s creation, and our understanding of them changes every day. That’s understandable, considering that His ways are so far above our fallible minds.


74 posted on 08/28/2012 8:19:16 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Beelzebubba

The Catholic church is open to the concept of evolution.


75 posted on 08/28/2012 9:22:49 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So many of these movers and shakers of evolutionism turn out to be fanatical left-wingers, marxists and hypocrites.

Bill Nye is just as fanatical as Richard Dawkins. Both are lying hypocrites who hate the history of American culture, instead panting for a blind secularist Euro-state and are big supports of Barrack Obama, the most anti-American elected official I can recall.

These big evolution leftists are the fringe fanatics and they reject the very foundation of our republic, that we "are endowed by our Creator with certain unalienable rights".

Nye has a half empty head that reveals his empty soul.

76 posted on 08/28/2012 1:17:43 PM PDT by OriginalIntent (undo all judicial activism and its results)
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To: MrB

That’s exactly what I am saying: YOU CAN’T ‘Pick and Choose’ you either believe it all (or logically you haven’t really thought this through)!


77 posted on 08/28/2012 5:33:54 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I will go with another view.

“The world is trying the experiment of attempting to form a civilized but non-Christian mentality. The experiment will fail; but we must be very patient in awaiting its collapse; meanwhile redeeming the time; so that the Faith may be preserved alive through the dark ages before us; to renew and rebuild civilization, and to save the world from suicide.” T.S. Elliot


78 posted on 08/28/2012 6:05:11 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: jaydubya2

The Catholic church is open to the concept of evolution.


Amen.

Which makes sense, considering that 90% of what we consider “science” was created/invented/discovered by devout Catholics, with no conflict with the Church.


79 posted on 08/28/2012 8:29:32 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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