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Study: Are Liberals Smarter Than Conservatives?
TIME ^ | John Cloud

Posted on 08/27/2012 1:46:08 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The notion that liberals are smarter than conservatives is familiar to anyone who has spent time on a college campus. The College Democrats are said to be ugly, smug and intellectual; the College Republicans, pretty, belligerent and dumb. There's enough truth in both stereotypes that the vast majority of college students opt not to join either club.

But are liberals actually smarter? A libertarian (and, as such, nonpartisan) researcher, Satoshi Kanazawa of the London School of Economics and Political Science, has just written a paper that is set to be published in March by the journal Social Psychology Quarterly. The paper investigates not only whether conservatives are dumber than liberals but also why that might be so.

The short answer: Kanazawa's paper shows that more-intelligent people are more likely to say they are liberal. They are also less likely to say they go to religious services. These aren't entirely new findings; last year, for example, a British team found that kids with higher intelligence scores were more likely to grow into adults who vote for Liberal Democrats, even after the researchers controlled for socioeconomics. What's new in Kanazawa's paper is a provocative theory about why intelligence might correlate with liberalism. He argues that smarter people are more willing to espouse "evolutionarily novel" values — that is, values that did not exist in our ancestral environment, including weird ideas about, say, helping genetically unrelated strangers (liberalism, as Kanazawa defines it), which never would have occurred to us back when we had to hunt to feed our own clan and our only real technology was fire.

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Two year old article, but still useful to show how desperate the MSM is to prove how smart they are.
1 posted on 08/27/2012 1:46:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No because Liberals base their world view on emotions. That is by definition stupid.


2 posted on 08/27/2012 1:49:22 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: SeekAndFind

The fact that anyone would actually believe in liberalism is proof enough


3 posted on 08/27/2012 1:49:36 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Now a Chick-fil-A customer . . . God bless Dan Cathy)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just spoke to a friend of mine, from church, who has a daughter at Stanford. She describes her fellow students as “The most intelligent people I know who haven’t got a clue.”


4 posted on 08/27/2012 1:52:24 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: SeekAndFind

How come no one has done a study comparing common sense vs. book smarts in the two parties. I would surmise there is a lot more common sense in the Conservative side where a lot of the head inthe clouds thinkers are liberals who have what sound like great ideas, but are sorely lacking in their execution.


5 posted on 08/27/2012 1:53:53 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: MNJohnnie

A Russian fellow once said that, “Conservatives use facts to form their opinions while liberals use their opinions to form their facts.”


6 posted on 08/27/2012 1:54:10 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If liberals are so smart why are they so useless to society, why do they tend to be less successful than Republicans and require welfare? Just the fact that they embrace socialism is evidence of how utterly stupid they are.


7 posted on 08/27/2012 1:58:44 PM PDT by Proudcongal
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To: SeekAndFind

Just ask them who is going to pay off the last 4 years $6 Trillion Dollars they made disappear?

Ask them to Show you what we actually Bought with all that money.


8 posted on 08/27/2012 1:59:27 PM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: MeganC

That is awesome, I will have to remember that


9 posted on 08/27/2012 1:59:53 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: SeekAndFind
And yet it is liberals who complain that their voters are too stupid to know how to obtain legitimate photo identification. They also went to court in Florida claiming their voters were too stupid to be able to use a "butterfly ballot" designed by a democrat election official.

With that many admittedly stupid members, the intelligence of the few "smart" liberals must really be high to be able to offset the idiocy of the rank-and-file.

10 posted on 08/27/2012 2:00:03 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: SeekAndFind

Easy to disprove this study.

A person continually uses a philosophy that leads to promoting the socially inept, while punishing the workers and those who invest their wealth to create jobs. The result historically, and universally has been war, death, destruction, drops in production, health, employment, economic growth and increases in human misery - across every time period, and every region on earth.

Yet, this same person persists in pursuing this same failed philosophy.

Is this person smart, or stupid?


11 posted on 08/27/2012 2:04:02 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals buy into the world’s values. One of the first things they are taught is, get a college education, and go into a field and get hired, maybe by the government.

So they do.

But conservative kids tend to say, “No, I want to make my own way,” develop their own way of thinking, and often go into their own business. They MAY go into college, but they don’t think they are doomed if they don’t. They often go later, when they see the practical uses for it, or because they want to challenge themselves in some way. Not reflexively because that’s what sheep do.

Once they are gotten there at a young age, the liberal intelligentsia sets to the brainwashing in earnest. Conservative kids laugh their tails off at the nonsense they hear from their elitist friends, and get down to work building a life of their OWN.

Liberal interpretation. College = smart. Non-college= not smart.


12 posted on 08/27/2012 2:04:53 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Are Liberals Smarter Than Conservatives?

...they are joshing us, right?

...they are kidding, right....right??

13 posted on 08/27/2012 2:06:47 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe the part about liberals being ugly. Their souls seep out through their skin.


14 posted on 08/27/2012 2:08:00 PM PDT by chesley (God's chosen instrument - the trumpet)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh how I remember the 1960s arrogant psycho punks. Loved by the MSM and praised as the most intelligent generation ever.

Their Demobrat Party kidnapped the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party beginning in the 1970s. Liberal leaders fled the Party to be independent or Republicans.

I like to quote something from Lincoln.. updated to address these aged 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus psycho spoiled brats and their bratty ideological issue who feeeeeeel that they are the anointed ones (as defined by Thomas Sowell).

We initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. We now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

15 posted on 08/27/2012 2:11:02 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: SeekAndFind

That quote was actually from Schaefer, but he referenced Gibbons.


16 posted on 08/27/2012 2:11:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: SeekAndFind

oops, wrong thread...

for this thread, my comment was going to be -

sure, they’re smarter, just ask ‘em!


17 posted on 08/27/2012 2:12:17 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: SeekAndFind
including weird ideas about, say, helping genetically unrelated strangers (liberalism, as Kanazawa defines it)

I am so sick of the idea that conservatives do not want to help genetically unrelated strangers (stupid definition, but let's go with that for this discussion). This is the biggest lie of all! Conservatives have proven ideas on what helping is (teach a man to fish vs give a man a fish) versus failed experiments with socialism/ communism. People who learn from their mistakes are intelligent in my book. Those who continue trying to do the same failed thing to get a different result are insane (by definition).

18 posted on 08/27/2012 2:13:11 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX
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To: SeekAndFind
He argues that smarter people are more willing to espouse "evolutionarily novel" values — that is, values that did not exist in our ancestral environment, including weird ideas about, say, helping genetically unrelated strangers"

Then one must wonder why studies have shown time and again that conservatives are more giving and generous than liberals.

19 posted on 08/27/2012 2:14:22 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Some ideas are so preposterous only an intellectual could believe them.”
- Orwell


20 posted on 08/27/2012 2:16:16 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Huskrrrr
That's great! Reminds me of a quote from the great Ronaldus Magnus: “It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”
21 posted on 08/27/2012 2:17:24 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (If my Fluffy had a puppy, it would look like the puppy Obama ate!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Study: Are Liberals Smarter Than Conservatives?

Followed by studies titled:

Liberals Nicer Than Conservatives

Liberals More Popular Than Conservatives

Liberals Friendlier Than Conservatives

Soccer Moms wait wide-eyed for such infinitely redefinable wordcrap. Do have ANY idea how many decaf lattes Starbuck sells to these drooling idiots while they wrap their pinheads around these programming memes... er, cuttingly analytical insights?

22 posted on 08/27/2012 2:20:16 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Add Health study shows that the mean IQ of adolescents who identify themselves as "very liberal" is 106, compared with a mean IQ of 95 for those calling themselves "very conservative." The Add Health study is huge — more than 20,000 kids — and this difference is highly statistically significant.

An IQ difference of (supposedly) 11 points between conservatives and liberals is "highly statistically significant."

An IQ difference of (supposedly) 15 to 18 points between blacks and whites is totally meaningless.

Although since most blacks are liberals this implies that the difference between white conservatives and liberals is even greater.

23 posted on 08/27/2012 2:21:05 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind

Too many people confuse “intellectually evaluated” with “intellectually fashionable”.

Most liberals I know are reasonably conservative about things they know something about in detail (and that’s usually not political issues), but they espouse knee-jerk liberal attitudes on just about everything else because that’s what they think makes them look like smart people, or at least keeps them from looking like a bunch of yahoos.

The perfect example is global warming/climate change. No liberal I’ve ever questioned thoroughly knows a damn thing about the controversy at any level of scientific detail, but they all know they have to say that they’re opposed to CO2 emissions because that’s the “scientific consensus”.


24 posted on 08/27/2012 2:21:27 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: JaguarXKE

Even better!


25 posted on 08/27/2012 2:21:40 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: SeekAndFind

PhD programs do not graduate those whose arguments disagree with prevailing thought. To the extent that universities are dominated by leftist thought and practices, no other ideas can make it to the top.

In fact, competition is washed out because of its political leanings or the whim of various professors.


26 posted on 08/27/2012 2:22:52 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: SeekAndFind

48% pay no federal income tax. Ask yourself if these liberals are smart?


27 posted on 08/27/2012 2:31:37 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If libtards were smarter than Conservatives, you would not be working for that pos commie rag “time mag”.

LLS


28 posted on 08/27/2012 2:38:30 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Sarah speaking at the romney convention would be like Led Zeppelin opening for The Monkees)
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To: SeekAndFind

See my tagline.


29 posted on 08/27/2012 2:40:43 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: I still care

I think this explains zero’s liberalism. When he says ‘you didn’t build that’, he’s 100% correct, liberals don’t build anything, just ‘improve’ things. He doesn’t have the intellectual interest to understand real value created by real workers who produce something that someone else wants and will pay for, he’s ‘transcended’ that.

He has no understanding of the jungle because he’s never lived in it, just toured it via his commie sponsors, in expensive cars and planes.


30 posted on 08/27/2012 2:42:14 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: SeekAndFind

If liberals are supposedly more intelligent, then why are they more likely to be single as opposed to married, more likely to be on welfare, or other government assistance, more likely to be poor, more likely to commit crimes?

And why is it that every election liberals try to get as many ill informed and ignorant people to vote if their way is the way of the smart ones.

Sorry don’t buy it, I expect there are serious flaws in the study.


31 posted on 08/27/2012 2:42:22 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (whites are 8 times more likely to be victimized by black criminals than blacks by white criminals)
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“If liberals are supposedly more intelligent, then why are they more likely to be single as opposed to married, more likely to be on welfare, or other government assistance, more likely to be poor, more likely to commit crimes?”

To liberals, all those things are a sign of intelligence. Everyone else is stupid with low IQs.


32 posted on 08/27/2012 2:54:00 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: SeekAndFind

Have you ever seen liberals comment on articles? They can barely grasp the English language.


33 posted on 08/27/2012 2:58:55 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: SeekAndFind

“He argues that smarter people are more willing to espouse “evolutionarily novel” values — that is, values that did not exist in our ancestral environment, including weird ideas about, say, helping genetically unrelated strangers (liberalism, as Kanazawa defines it), which never would have occurred to us back when we had to hunt to feed our own clan and our only real technology was fire.”

YEAH THAT’S WHY ALL THE LIBERALS STARTED HOSPITALS AND UNIVERSITIES THROUGHOUT HISTORY. Pushed for valuing women more than just an appendage or property.

Oh wait, IT’S THOSE STUPID IGNORANT CHRISTIANS THAT DID ALL THAT.

Libtardism reaching pandemic proportions today.


34 posted on 08/27/2012 3:01:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Even a cursory look at DU will amply demonstrate that, compared to FR conservatives, liberals are sorely deficient in vocabulary, dependent as they are on the F*** and S*** words.


35 posted on 08/27/2012 3:04:19 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Neoliberalnot

In a way they are. They are sustaining themselves like leeches off of poor saps who keep working.

Go Galt as best you can. Starve the leeches.

Ideally we could really probably take the whole thing down. Work hard a few years, save up enough not to work 2-3 years, be fired from work, collect unemployment and other benefits as long as possible. Overwhelm the system until it collapses.

If all makers stopped generating taxable income we could shut down the entitlement system. When mostly everyone is taking and nobody’s making, the benefits, they must stop flowing. What’s easier to cut, benefits from losers that don’t work and want to mooch off soceity, or military defense and the genuinely needy like the elderly and truly disabled. Moochers get cut off.

Makers going galt can form their own networks over craigslist to barter for equivalent trades and equivalent services (ie helping out a friend). Can find useful free stuff out there. Easy peasy.


36 posted on 08/27/2012 3:08:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Hodar

By Einstein’s definition they are insane.

http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/26032.html


37 posted on 08/27/2012 3:08:49 PM PDT by willyd
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To: Proudcongal

They would reply it’s because evil conservatives have screwed those people out of being successful, they’ve achieved at the expense of those other people.

One should then reply, how is that possible, given your claim liberals are smarter than conservatives?


38 posted on 08/27/2012 3:12:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: willyd

The leaders are.

But the takers are not. They have been trained well. They are like the monkey in the cage that hits a button and the wire in his head stimulates him to orgasm. He’ll hit that button all day long, and starve to death because he doesn’t break from hitting that button, even for food and water.

That’s the takers description right there. They have absolutely no incentives to stop being takers. They are PROUD to be takers. Their motto is “FEED ME B1TCH!”

Time to starve off the takers.


39 posted on 08/27/2012 3:19:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: willyd

The leaders are.

But the takers are not. They have been trained well. They are like the monkey in the cage that hits a button and the wire in his head stimulates him to orgasm. He’ll hit that button all day long, and starve to death because he doesn’t break from hitting that button, even for food and water.

That’s the takers description right there. They have absolutely no incentives to stop being takers. They are PROUD to be takers. Their motto is “FEED ME B1TCH!”

Time to starve off the takers.


40 posted on 08/27/2012 3:19:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Psychologists don't even agree about what intelligence is. Speculations like Kanazawa's should probably be tabled until that question is resolved.

If one needs an answer or a response, it might be that reality itself is more often than not "conservative." That's to say that liberals may pick up quickly on unorthodox theories, but people and events tend to follow the same patterns -- patterns which correspond to old and time-worn conservative ways of thinking.

You could go back to James Burnham's adoption (through Pareto) of Machiavelli's division of political actors into foxes and lions. The foxes are clever and adaptive and good at thinking on their feet. They have what Pareto called the "instinct for combinations."

The lions are slower moving and more cautious, but also more reliable, and brave in standing by tried and true old values. According to Pareto, they are dominated by the "instinct for persistent aggregates." The foxes are (more or less) liberal and the lions tend (other things being held equal) to be conservatives.

Social scientists really haven't moved very far in this matter beyond Machiavelli's 500 year old speculations. But beware: to survive in political life (as Machiavelli knew) one has to be both lion and fox, and to know when to be a lion and when to be a fox.

41 posted on 08/27/2012 3:26:28 PM PDT by x
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To: SeekAndFind

Self id is never a good measure because it doesn’t adjust for peer group bias. There was a study not long ago that showed that many who self id as liberal really are not when you query them on a break down of what they really believe. The reason sciences skew towards liberalism is because the liberals have taken over the sciences & academia. If you want to get ahead in academia or the sciences their is a benefit to identifying as a liberal. If you measured attitudes 50 to 100 years ago you would undoubtedly find conservatives dominating the sciences and society. Also there is the age factor. People tend to identify as more conservative as they take on more responsibility, get married, etc.

This study is really more a study in typical one dimensional studies that dominate survey pseudo-science which is usually designed to of course make liberals feel good about themselves. A few years ago there was a study that showed that conservatives are more engaged and have a wider breadth of knowledge than their liberal counterparts.
I’m not worried. This is just another attempt to leverage social pressure to make the young in particular feel more comfortable about identifying as a liberal.


42 posted on 08/27/2012 3:37:27 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Now lets return to our regular scheduled deprogramming.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As long as the studies are done by liberals (I don’t buy the “libertarian” dodge in the story), conservatives will always be as stupid as cranberries.


43 posted on 08/27/2012 3:48:01 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Are they intelligent or are they intellectual? There is a difference. And when did they stop calling it the theory of evolution? When and where did they find proof?


44 posted on 08/27/2012 4:03:42 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: SeekAndFind

I put two blog posts up on FR which you might find interesting, if you go for this kind of stuff. Liberals are just the r-selected psychologies within our species. For the full theory, click on my profile.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2922000/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2923050/posts


45 posted on 08/27/2012 4:52:37 PM PDT by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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To: GraceG

Well that would require people who have common sense to do the study and since most studies are done by those who haven’t even heard of the words and forget if they even know the meaning, its not hard to figure out why they have never differentiated between book smarts and common sense. You can also chalk that up to our relatively peaceful existence we have had in our country. One doesn’t need much common sense when you live in an era of plenty and things just happen to be on the shelf whenever you go into a store, energy at the pump or outlet, etc. Our school system has really accelerated this decline in real world knowledge and to be frank, good old fashion curiosity. Welcome to the Brave New World, well at least for as long as it lasts since the common sense that build our technological society, is needed to sustain it and to grow it. I am not looking forward to the downward slide, 20th century Europe was no picnic.


46 posted on 08/27/2012 5:29:12 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: Secret Agent Man
“What’s easier to cut, benefits from losers that don’t work and want to mooch off society, or military defense and the genuinely needy like the elderly and truly disabled. Moochers get cut off.”

In case after case the politicians threaten to cut that which hurts the most in order to frighten voters into going along with their schemes. It's easy for them when they have created such a large voting block of moochers.

47 posted on 08/27/2012 7:20:24 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: MeganC

AWESOME STATEMENT!


48 posted on 08/27/2012 9:09:31 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: luvbach1
I will also admit to trolling a bit on DU as one must try to understand the enemy. I can generally last about 15 maybe 20 minutes before the overwhelming need to shower with lava soap demands me to close that browser.

To the fact that most if not all of the DUmmies cannot post anything without cursing all one needs to do is go by their leader Skinner. He started a thread with just one word, which would be enough to get banned here, and that thread title was “F**K”.

That right there showes to me the intelligence of the liberal.

49 posted on 08/27/2012 9:33:54 PM PDT by SledgeCS (I will vote for Obama when he admits that his idea of a transparency means "You cannot see it")
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To: Secret Agent Man

In a way they are. They are sustaining themselves like leeches off of poor saps who keep working.

Go Galt as best you can. Starve the leeches.

Ideally we could really probably take the whole thing down. Work hard a few years, save up enough not to work 2-3 years, be fired from work, collect unemployment and other benefits as long as possible. Overwhelm the system until it collapses.””

Smart does not equate to lazy and parasitic. You have some good ideas here, if we could only reach critical mass and overwhelm the system.

If all makers stopped generating taxable income we could shut down the entitlement system. When mostly everyone is taking and nobody’s making, the benefits, they must stop flowing. What’s easier to cut, benefits from losers that don’t work and want to mooch off soceity, or military defense and the genuinely needy like the elderly and truly disabled. Moochers get cut off.

Makers going galt can form their own networks over craigslist to barter for equivalent trades and equivalent services (ie helping out a friend). Can find useful free stuff out there. Easy peasy.


50 posted on 08/28/2012 6:43:02 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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