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Plans Against Aggressive Panhandling Stalled in Atlanta
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 8/27/2012 | AJC

Posted on 08/27/2012 4:30:31 PM PDT by DJlaysitup

The city's current panhandling ordinance is rarely, if ever, enforced, according to police and attorneys who spoke recently to city council. Atlanta's anti-panhandling ordinance is "effectively, a worthless piece of paper" and might have to be scrapped or extensively rewritten to make it enforceable, said Michael J. Bond, chair of the City Council's public safety committee.

Atlanta has been trying to push back against panhandling for years, partly to appease downtown residents and partly to protect the city's lucrative tourism and convention industries, which bring in hundreds of thousands of visitors and millions in spending and taxes. And then there are the hundreds of thousands of workers who commute into the city from all over the metro region.

Mayor Kasim Reed took office in 2010 vowing to curb professional begging.

But a recent discussion over whether the city should toughen its existing ordinance revealed that since 2005, Atlanta police have not arrested people under the city's ordinance against "commercial solicitation," which was defined as asking for a donation of money "or other thing of value" without a permit. That doesn't include those sitting passively with a sign.

People have been arrested for panhandling-related infractions such as disorderly conduct.

(Excerpt) Read more at @ajc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: begging; panhandling; theft
This is total and utter C R A P.

I have been forced to walk the "Ghetto Line" between the train station and the ball field to watch a Braves game. They are all over you...they all say they are Reverends and need money for there Churches...it's insane.

1 posted on 08/27/2012 4:30:38 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

here is direct link - note the last line of the article:

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/plans-for-crackdown-on-1507824.html


2 posted on 08/27/2012 4:33:24 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

Yeah...F’n A Beasley...I don’t see any white people intimidating folks to give to their “Churches” and scaring the old folks into giving over 5 bucks with a 6-4 fella looking over their shoulder.


3 posted on 08/27/2012 4:42:14 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup
I have been forced to walk the "Ghetto Line" between the train station and the ball field to watch a Braves game. They are all over you...they all say they are Reverends and need money for there Churches...it's insane.

It's also free speech. If "aggressive panhandling" amounts to assault, then arrest the panhandler. Otherwise, I don't see how you pass a law banning someone from saying "Brother, can you spare a dime?"

This sounds like another situation which can only be solved via government intervention. Clearly the passage of more laws is what's necessary.

Parenthetically, down in South Florida where I live, there's no shortage of panhandlers of all races, whether aggressive or otherwise. There are plenty to be encountered even when I'm not in the "ghetto"...

4 posted on 08/27/2012 5:04:12 PM PDT by sargon
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To: DJlaysitup

Any photos of the Ghetto Line?


5 posted on 08/27/2012 5:05:42 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: sargon
Parenthetically, down in South Florida where I live, there's no shortage of panhandlers of all races, whether aggressive or otherwise. There are plenty to be encountered even when I'm not in the "ghetto"...
Well pal...yo just live in a different neighborhood that me...it's all cool...your area has white panhandlers and we have all black....no biggie I suppose.
6 posted on 08/27/2012 5:13:51 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Any photos of the Ghetto Line?

Alright..alright...F you all. I can take care of my own Goddamned self without a bunch of candy assed liberals making fun of me.

Ya-all can kiss my ass.
7 posted on 08/27/2012 5:18:11 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup

Note to Jack: I was cussing at the other guy.


8 posted on 08/27/2012 5:23:18 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: DJlaysitup; Jack Hydrazine

9 posted on 08/27/2012 5:26:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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I have been forced to walk the "Ghetto Line" between the train station and the ball field to watch a Braves game.

You do know they show the Braves games on the TV?

10 posted on 08/27/2012 5:29:14 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: sargon
There are plenty to be encountered even when I'm not in the "ghetto"...

Really? And you're OK with that?

11 posted on 08/27/2012 5:31:01 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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You do know they show the Braves games on the TV?

Aaaahhhh...YES....I KNOW that I can watch the Braves on TV and not be pestered by beggars. &*&_$&*#&#)(&&^&^+*&#(&^#)+&#^&^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12 posted on 08/27/2012 5:34:26 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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It’s over - screw this place...I will write an opus tomorrow...or maybe tonight...yeah...tonight.


13 posted on 08/27/2012 5:37:54 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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Right cheek or left cheek? LOL!


14 posted on 08/27/2012 5:41:39 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: DJlaysitup

For those of you who don’t understand that you should get to go to a ballgame unimpeded I can only say - good for you.

Getting begged on by people who live in the park in tents and try to explain that they are reverends in their “churches” and *#%*&%@...I forgive you NOT.

Adious Free Republic...you are no longer...awe heck....forget it ...I was getting carried away and I don’t have the speed to go for an Opus since the pizza man just showed up.

Good will to all.


15 posted on 08/27/2012 5:47:43 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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To: Trailerpark Badass
And you're OK with that?

Am I "OK" with down-on-their-luck American citizens exercising their free speech by asking if I can spare them a dime?

Yeah, I guess I'm OK with that. I'd prefer that there were fewer of them. That's why I oppose collectivist authoritarian policies which inevitably increase the number of panhandlers one is likely to encounter...

16 posted on 08/27/2012 5:48:01 PM PDT by sargon
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Down on their luck?

OK, you obviously don't know what we're talking about on this thread.

17 posted on 08/27/2012 5:55:28 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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Dude, I am a 35 year resident of the metro ATL.

I'm sympathizing with you.

If you're going to a Braves game, splurge for the parking. You'll enjoy the experience a great deal more.

18 posted on 08/27/2012 5:57:57 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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OK - I give up - even though I work for a living and have the money to go down and watch a Braves game (and pay for it) I’m saying “poof”...I’ll just watchem on TV. I have no interest in trying to go down and watch a Braves game if it requires having multiple “fivers” to pass along.


19 posted on 08/27/2012 6:07:32 PM PDT by DJlaysitup
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Everybody seems to be a smartass around here lately, DJlaysitup, but I know what you’re talking about. What you experienced is not mere panhandling by the down and out, but what the City of Atlanta calls “aggressive panhandling” - a polite term for intimidation that is just short of strong-arm robbery. It is a problem for Braves, Falcons and Hawks fans, and a huge problem for Atlanta’s enormous convention business. But nothing is ever done about it because the professional racemongers cry “racism” whenever the complaints draw the mayor’s attention - just as you alluded to the last few sentences of the AJC article.


20 posted on 08/27/2012 6:51:41 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: DJlaysitup

Do they not have carry laws in GA


21 posted on 08/27/2012 9:36:48 PM PDT by Figment
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I don’t have one ounce of compassion for you. You put up with that and it’s your own homemade problem. There are ways to clear out the derelicts and have a happy time downtown. Pepper spray is your friend. Go to the hunting store and get bear spray. You don’t have to take this from that danged Amish trash


22 posted on 08/27/2012 9:45:22 PM PDT by Figment
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Wuss can’t handle yourself in an urban situation? Stay away from them. People like you make them think all people are easy marks


23 posted on 08/27/2012 9:49:40 PM PDT by Figment
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To: DJlaysitup

Well duh. You go off real good when you’re anonymous on the web. ever think about telling a bum to get the eff out of my face? I mean face to face?


24 posted on 08/27/2012 9:56:46 PM PDT by Figment
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I have no interest in trying to go down and watch a Braves game if it requires having multiple “fivers” to pass along.

Why don’t you just take some vaseline with you and let them have their way for free? You make me sick. You are a big part of the problem


25 posted on 08/27/2012 10:04:24 PM PDT by Figment
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