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The Shocking Second HIV Epidemic Among U.S. Gay Men That No One Is Talking About
Alternet ^ | August 15, 2012 | Michael Bouldin

Posted on 08/27/2012 8:33:16 PM PDT by fwdude

Pop quiz, no cheating allowed: if you had to guess, would you say that HIV and AIDS rates among gay men in the United States are A) declining, B) remaining stable, or C) rising?

The correct answer is C) rising, at an alarming 8% per year . HIV incidence -- that is, the proportion of a population infected -- among gay men in the United States rises by that amount every year since at least 2001. Overall, this incidence, at 15.4% cumulatively, is just slightly lower than the incidence among gay men in Sub-Saharan Africa.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: aids; barebacking; celebrateperversity; chickenhawks; healthcarecosts; hiv; homosexualagenda; lifestylechoice; obamacare; pederasts; teabagging
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There are absolutely no words to describe the convolution of these stark facts that are being concocted in the "gay" community. Read some of the comments at the site if you want a look into the abyss of madness.
1 posted on 08/27/2012 8:33:26 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Source link coming. Sorry, it is late.


2 posted on 08/27/2012 8:35:12 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

I am interested in reading the article. I can’t find the link. I tried alternet.com and that wasn’t it. A little help please? :)


3 posted on 08/27/2012 8:36:18 PM PDT by ransomnote
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Look again. The Mods added it. Sorry about that.


4 posted on 08/27/2012 8:38:34 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

Let me feel sorry for those heroic AID-ridden brave souls who did not deserve this at all.


5 posted on 08/27/2012 8:39:01 PM PDT by sagar
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To: fwdude
Absolutely disgusting. These queers are so gross and immoral.

And we are supposed to accept such behavior? I sure as hell don't.

What are they going to normalize next? Necrophilia? Hey,if you wanna have sex with a dead person who am I to object? Right?

Then there's having sex with animals. Go ahead. Have sex with your cat. it's not my place to judge.

Lord have mercy.

6 posted on 08/27/2012 8:41:10 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Vic Morrow is my new heartthrob :))
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To: fwdude

There are some mitigating factors at work.

When a novel communicable disease first begins, at first it is extremely virulent, even lethal. However, communicability and virulence work at cross purposes, with those strains of the disease that are less virulent winning out. This is a downward curve, and for HIV in the US, it is a steeper drop than the typical curve.

Eventually, the disease will turn from acute and lethal, to one which only becomes lethal late in life, or not at all, just a chronic condition.

At the same time, novel diseases also come in waves of infection, and they develop some resistance against the drugs used to treat them.

So there are ups and downs.

In Africa, virulence and communicability are still very high, for several reasons.


7 posted on 08/27/2012 8:41:41 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: fwdude

So.....boning guys up the butt continues to be a very dangerous practice. Maybe queers should pay higher insurance rates than the rest of us, even smokers? Nah...stop making sense. After all, it’s a completely voluntary disease - stop sinning, you don’t get it.


8 posted on 08/27/2012 8:48:48 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: fwdude
The gays could stop the spread of AIDS tomorrow if they really wanted to. All they would have to do would be to exercise a little self control and change their behavior.
9 posted on 08/27/2012 8:49:18 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: sagar

Back in high school, the uncle of one of my girlfriends passed away from HIV that he’d contracted from a blood transfusion. He had the transfusion in the early 1980’s, before they knew to test for AIDS, and held on for almost ten years before passing away.


10 posted on 08/27/2012 8:49:24 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Put the, around children. Donate blood. Encourage suicidal behavior??


11 posted on 08/27/2012 8:50:49 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: fwdude

shucks, that’s a communist site.

however, atheists, who compose a large portion of the anti-God left, proclaim to adhere to “science” to support their view. evolution, what not.

they are too stupid to admit that the anus cavity is not a sexual organ.

designed by GOD for the elimination of waste from the body.

besides, i don’t think any man is cute, my wife is, however. if any man thinks that i am cute, then we have a problem.

aids is very preventable. would not even be a problem in a moral society.

blessings, bobo


12 posted on 08/27/2012 8:50:57 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Well, mock me if you will, but I firmly believe that AIDS is a judgment from God. This scourge will not behave like other diseases resulting from morally neutral, benign activity. I see it only getting worse, possibly through a mutation into a monster virus.

Nature and nature's God will only stand having people spit in their eyes for so long.

13 posted on 08/27/2012 8:52:20 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

***Hey,if you wanna have sex with a dead person who am I to object? Right?***

Muzzlemen can now have sex with their deceased wives for up to six hours after death.

And female sheep, but can’t eat the sheep afterward. They can sell it to a neighboring village for food.


14 posted on 08/27/2012 8:53:23 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

“Maybe queers should pay higher insurance rates than the rest of us, “

Makes a lot of sense to me.


15 posted on 08/27/2012 8:54:46 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

“HIV that he’d contracted from a blood transfusion”

These are the people that should be MOST angry about the people who spread this disease!


16 posted on 08/27/2012 8:57:11 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: fwdude

The HIV virus is an automatic win for collecting Social Security Disability. And no one seems to be dying from the disease... It’s all very strange.


17 posted on 08/27/2012 8:57:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: fwdude
Well, mock me if you will, but I firmly believe that AIDS is a judgment from God.

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Romans 1:27 KJV

18 posted on 08/27/2012 9:03:26 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: fwdude

Well, my 50 year old gay brother just told me of his Aids diagnosis last week. His twin brother, gay and married to his homosexual partner, died from Aids 5 1/2 years ago.

So, the wages of sin, in my family, cost a life already, and soon, another one.

The pro homo pro gay marriage morons never talk about the Aids death penalty that goes along with the deviant behavior.

My family has paid and is paying a very high price for sexual cultural relativism. Really it makes me very sad and depressed. I hate losing 2 brothers to Aids.


19 posted on 08/27/2012 9:03:39 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

There is much more disgusting behavior of sodomites and the fact that pederasty is always the main part of the lifestyle because it is learned. I read the Pink Swastika a decade ago-—and no one knows about it because the Gaystapo needed to silence the authors. They still use fascist, rude, immature behavior to keep him from speaking at events. The same behavior they use to attack inside the Catholic Church-—where they throw condoms and do disgusting sexual gestures with children in the audience-—same at “Pride” parades. A disgusting, very sexist, immoral worldview.

He just wrote this article: It is about another “gay” who states what Lively did.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/the-strange-strange-story-of-gay-fascism-deniers/


20 posted on 08/27/2012 9:06:33 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: fwdude

“Read some of the comments at the site if you want a look into the abyss of madness.”

These mind sets were noted in “A Journal of the Plague Year”, by Daniel Defoe. You can get the E-book free at gutenburg.org


21 posted on 08/27/2012 9:07:42 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
anal sex...there, I said it....is a risky endeavor when you have all these nice, young men carrying diseases....

but they're a special class....they get to continue their practices, and we heteros get to pay the bills....bills for their lab tests, and their meds, and their xrays, and their myriad of health problems...

if Bloomberg really wanted to improve the health of NYC he would close bath houses, and crack down on homo pickup areas...he could start a very loud and public health campaign directly ONLY at the gays and drug dealers....not to our children....

but gays would never allow and Bloomie is too chicken to really tackle a huge health problem.....and gee, we got all this terrific health care and we can keep those gays alive with zillion dollar drug therapy....

22 posted on 08/27/2012 9:08:17 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
anal sex...is a risky endeavor when you have all these nice, young men carrying diseases....

That's only part if it. Getting genital herpes in their THROATS, resulting in various cancers in that anatomical area, is also a real, documented risk.

24 posted on 08/27/2012 9:24:05 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude

There are really only two possibilities here:

1. Homosexual males are too stupid to live; or,

2. Homosexual males have a death wish.

For goodness’ sake, how intelligent does one have to be to keep in mind the utterly simple maxim: If you really must play with your buddy’s *sshole, wear a condom.


25 posted on 08/27/2012 9:26:57 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: FlyingEagle

I’m so sorry FlyingEagle. That is really sad.


26 posted on 08/27/2012 9:28:57 PM PDT by MonicaG (God bless our military! Praying and thanking God for you every day. Thank you!)
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To: fwdude

In California it soon may be a capital crime to suck on a cigar but in San Francisco you apparently can suck on anything you like and even get branded a hero..


27 posted on 08/27/2012 9:31:05 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: fella

Thanks for the recommendation.


28 posted on 08/27/2012 9:34:52 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Homosexuals want to be able to donate blood again. It’s insane.


29 posted on 08/27/2012 9:46:43 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: fwdude
One word: "barebacking"

CC

30 posted on 08/27/2012 9:48:39 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Q: how did you find America? A: turn left at Greenland)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I’ll one-up you: “bug chasing.


31 posted on 08/27/2012 9:52:22 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
>"What are they going to normalize next? Necrophilia?"

Too late!

She's sharia compliant for 6 hrs after departing.

32 posted on 08/27/2012 9:55:57 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: sagar

“Let me feel sorry for those heroic AID-ridden brave souls who did not deserve this at all.”

I knew a lovely and beautiful woman whose husband’s little locker room and bath house side interests brought it home to her. She was utterly unaware that he was unfaithful, far less that she was his beard. She died before he did. I’ve often wished I could raise him from the dead, just to kill him again. I know that is wrong, but the thought is still there.


33 posted on 08/27/2012 10:00:43 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

“What are they going to normalize next? Necrophilia?”

Pedophilia.


34 posted on 08/27/2012 10:02:56 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: Dr. Pritchett

His family was extremely angry about the situation, but he was very calm and philosophical about the whole thing. He’d made his peace with G-d and was ready when it was his time to go. Like he said; you can’t change the past, but you can prevent past mistakes from happening again.


35 posted on 08/27/2012 10:04:33 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: Psalm 144
I've often wished I could raise him from the dead, just to kill him again.

SOMEone's hoping for a Zombie Apocalypse!


36 posted on 08/27/2012 10:06:54 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: GOPJ; All

“The HIV virus is an automatic win for collecting Social Security Disability.”

Which is why the term “Bug Chasing” has become part of the venacular.

Gays looking for infected gays, either for the thrill of having dangerous sex, that could kill them, or becoming infected themselves, or, as they call it, “Gifted”, so they can collect SSDI, and all the other bene’s, and never have to work again.

Yes, they actually do this. Look it up.


37 posted on 08/27/2012 10:08:24 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Jack Hammer

“2. Homosexual males have a death wish.”

Many do. I think it is the internalized guilt, remorse and self destructive anger.


38 posted on 08/27/2012 10:08:54 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“Homosexuals want to be able to donate blood again. It’s insane.”

I lost two good friends in the late 80’s-early 90’s to the The Great Hemopheliac Genocide, that is politically-incorrect to talk about, because it was caused by gay-tainted blood.

I must be a ‘phobe, or sumpin, for even remembering it, that’s how politically incorrect that it is to mention today.


39 posted on 08/27/2012 10:11:08 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Psalm 144

Not too much talk about that here in DC even though the HIV+ rate for ALL Blacks between the ages of 18 to 55 is about 10% - that’s both males and females.


40 posted on 08/27/2012 10:11:48 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: fwdude
HIV/AIDS rates on the rise at 8% yet smokers are vilified and gays are worshipped. This kind of carp is what makes me angry.

Yes, I pay a sin tax but gays don't and they are idolized, not leperized. (yes, that's a new word I just made up)

Smokers are about 12-15% of the population while gays poll at 10-15%, depending on which day it is and if they are LGBT or whatever they choose to be....yes, I said CHOOSE. They pick their lifestyle. It's not inherent.

I choose to smoke because I'm used to it. My parents, friends, religious leaders and family did it. I emulate that behavior and enjoy it. I saw it on TV and movies. Smoking was cool....so I learned to smoke and enjoy it.

Same with being gay....(yes, I said that). It's a choice. Family, parents, friends, religious leaders, TV, movies and anyone who abuses a child influences the child and the choice. Ergo, it seems normal.

In a nutshell, smoking is just a choice. Sexual deviance is also a choice, but gays sure get more attention and acceptance than smokers and we don't harm children. Just doesn't seem right.

41 posted on 08/27/2012 10:23:32 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: fwdude; All

It’s rising because the younger generation doesn’t have the experience with the disease of their forerunners. It’s just theory, stories, something to be managed like diabetes or bad hair.


42 posted on 08/27/2012 10:52:04 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 70 days away.)
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To: fwdude

They are sure proud of themselves though.


43 posted on 08/27/2012 11:07:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: fwdude

It is interesting that smoking tobacco is a behavior that causes all kinds of health problems and receives increasing control. Yet, the behavior that causes HIV is ignored and elevated as an alternate lifestyle.


44 posted on 08/27/2012 11:37:45 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: JouleZ

Where do you get the information that there are that many gays? I have read that they are only 1 - 2 % of the population.


45 posted on 08/28/2012 1:18:07 AM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Jack Hammer

It’s more like #2: Homosexual males have a death wish. Have you ever heard of “spreading the ‘gift’”? The “gift” is HIV. It is a sick, depraved culture. And we are supposed to not only tolerate it, but embrace it?


46 posted on 08/28/2012 2:50:32 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: fwdude

It’s a real crap shot.


47 posted on 08/28/2012 2:58:55 AM PDT by soycd
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To: GOPJ

“The HIV virus is an automatic win for collecting Social Security Disability.”

As well as “survivor benefits” when one of the deviants dies at 25, once they are “married”...


48 posted on 08/28/2012 3:23:38 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: fwdude

Yes, I had heard this some time ago. And of course the gays must deny, deny, deny - it doesn’t square with their new “gay marriage monogamy” ideal.


49 posted on 08/28/2012 4:34:36 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: fwdude

The queer plague is self inflicted. The plague is a dampening force to reduce the level of queers to insignificance


50 posted on 08/28/2012 4:37:03 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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