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An Economic Border War Right Under Washington's Nose (Maryland vs Virginia)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 08/27/2012 | Stephen Moore

Posted on 08/28/2012 7:51:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

What's the fiercest rivalry in American politics today? There's Obama-Romney, of course, but try O'Malley-McDonnell—neighboring governors battling across the Potomac River over how best to resuscitate a moribund economy.

Martin O'Malley, Maryland's liberal Democratic governor, is competing for jobs, businesses and tax dollars with Bob McDonnell, Virginia's conservative Republican chief executive. Both are rising stars considered potential presidential hopefuls in 2016. Both are Irish Catholics—Mr. McDonnell playfully calls Mr. O'Malley "the big Irishman to our north"—and each leads his party's association of governors. The two regularly spar on the Sunday talk shows, on the pages of Washington-area newspapers, and over ...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bluestates; martinomalley; maryland; mcdonnell; omalley; redstates; virginia

1 posted on 08/28/2012 7:51:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Bob Beauprez of Townhall summarizes what was in the Wall Street Journal Article here:

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/bobbeauprez/2012/08/28/a_tale_of_two_states__and_lesson_for_america

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Hats-off to Stephen Moore for his insightful analysis in the Wall Street Journal of the very different economic tracks of Maryland and Virginia. In addition to sharing a border, these two states uniquely are impacted by the “cash-dispenser” in Washington, D.C. Each state also has a powerful Governor that is the Chairman of their respective political party’s Governors Association.

But, that’s about where the similarities end. Virginia has taken a conservative approach – lower taxes, encourage business investment, reduced government spending – under the leadership of Republican Governor Bob McDonnell. Maryland’s Governor Martin O’Malley is an “unapologetic” tax-and-spend liberal who has followed the Obamanomics Keynesian model of more spending, higher taxes, and more debt.

Since I’m writing about it and highlighting Stephen Moore’s analysis you probably can guess there is a pretty dramatic tale to tell – and a message about the question in front of the voters in 70 more days. Here’s a take away excerpt and a link to the entire article:

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The most devastating recent assessment of Maryland’s fiscal condition came last month from Peter Franchot, the state’s comptroller—and a Democrat. ‘The Maryland economy is in trouble. . . . Our current strategy—one that depends excessively on public sector jobs and government spending—is no longer working. To maintain our commitment to better public schools, safer communities, a cleaner Chesapeake Bay and other essential priorities, Maryland needs a fundamentally new approach to job growth, one that is focused squarely on the private sector.’

That sounds a lot like the Bob McDonnell approach in Virginia—and the one promoted nationwide by Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan.”


2 posted on 08/28/2012 7:53:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rivalry? That’s like calling a fight between a wolf and a kitten a “rivalry.” Virginia hammers Maryland economically because it’s damn-near impossible to conduct a business in Maryland, and most big businesses that contemplate moving to the East know it. For small businesses, taxes and compliance are horrendous in Maryland. Ask me how I know! It’s a nightmare. Citizens and business owners are leaving Maryland in droves and relocating to VA.


3 posted on 08/28/2012 7:56:30 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the Peoples’ Republic of Maryland is so great, then why do so many Marylanders move to NOVA?


4 posted on 08/28/2012 8:00:52 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: ottbmare

“Catholic” O Malley is an unprincipled smarmy Kennedy-wannabe who never met a tax increase, gay marriage law or abortion clinic he couldn’t love

One of the Church’s moral failings is to continue to extend grace to opportunistic amoral politicans like Lil Marty


5 posted on 08/28/2012 8:04:12 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: Hoodat

Because if we all moved to Delaware, it would tip over


6 posted on 08/28/2012 8:06:04 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: silverleaf

BWAHAHAHAHA!! Thanks for making me laugh!!


7 posted on 08/28/2012 8:08:09 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: silverleaf
One of the Church’s moral failings is to continue to extend grace to opportunistic amoral politicans like Lil Marty

One the the Church's greatest moral failings is not to use church discipline with members who clearly oppose church teachings and doctrine.

8 posted on 08/28/2012 8:10:19 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: SeekAndFind; All

They also have dramaticaly different approaches to the right to keep and bear arms. Maryland does all it can to denigrate and restrict the right. Virginia has shall issue CCW and open carry. They may be moving toward constitutional carry, as they just eliminated the stupid “one gun a month” law.


9 posted on 08/28/2012 8:17:33 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: SeekAndFind
Not to denigrate McDonnell's efforts ~ which I will ultimately do elsewhere and at length ~ but except for Kaine and current Senator Warner, ALL Republican governors have been very abstenious when it comes to taxes, taskes and state expenditures ~ including roads.

Jus' the way it is.

Still, once a tax gets increased around here NONE of them ever call for lowering it. You won't find this McDonnell guy asking for a cut of 1cent in the sales tax to get it back where it was before the Republican party was created in this state (yeah, it's a recent phenomenon BTW).

NOW, to trash McDonnell, he's been messing around with the Tidewater putting tolls on bridges for folks who live on islands and peninsulas. That's just like raising taxes. Now he's screwing with the HOV lanes on Shirley highway in Northern Virginia. He imagines adding a toll is going to improve general traffic flow and do something else ~ whatever it is he said is BS too!

We actually need some NEW HIGHWAYS ~ for general use, not just the dudes who pay tolls.

We also have this problem with the Dulles Tollroad where there's a Metro extension being run to the airport at the expense of highway users ~ none of whom will ever need to use that subway!

McDonnell is one of the trickiest big tax raisers to come along in a very long time.

I think of him in the same category as Bloomberg of NY.

10 posted on 08/28/2012 8:22:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: silverleaf
Agreed! But that is partly because the Church is on the same page with that womanizing conniver conniving womanizer on so many issues. Remember that it was within the Archdiocese of Baltimore that there were so many abuses in St Mary's seminary by gay clergy and seminarians, while only Emmitsburg stood firm in the faith. And the ADW is little better.
11 posted on 08/28/2012 8:23:35 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: SeekAndFind
Regarding my expression "Republican Governors", the laws in Virginia hedge in the power of the governors sufficiently so that virtually all of them would pass for Republicans almost everywhere else ~ Kaine and Warner tried to increase sales taxes. We had an income tax increase a couple of decades back to finance a 'rainy day fund" and that's actually come in handy during periods of financial stress.

McDonnell is back at the trick of raising the costs of government

12 posted on 08/28/2012 8:26:16 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I closed my business in Maryland ( THE Freak State) a few months ago and moved to Utah. This was the smartest move I ever made. Maryland is hell for business and for productive people. Subhumans like owe-mally can't stop spending other people's money. Fools...let them rot in their liberal asshat state of insanity.
13 posted on 08/28/2012 8:55:32 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maryland has a broken window economy built with government jobs paying six-figure salaries. This group is is getting a bit uneasy, and pulling their horns a bit. Even they know this this type of economy is unsustainable.

O’Malley is a dangerous foe. He is an empty suit, with a squeaky clean background, being intensely groomed by the left for national office. He’s kind of like a Kennedy except with zero baggage.


14 posted on 08/28/2012 9:00:13 AM PDT by Stalwart
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To: muawiyah
We actually need some NEW HIGHWAYS ~ for general use, not just the dudes who pay tolls.

Yeah!!!!

Gimme a new road!!! Gimme!!! Gimme!!!

Just make that other guy pay for it.

15 posted on 08/28/2012 9:07:41 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Isn’t state infrastructure a legitimate role for the government? Or are you saying that it can all be done with private money without government involvement?


16 posted on 08/28/2012 9:14:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: Hoodat

“If the Peoples’ Republic of Maryland is so great, then why do so many Marylanders move to NOVA?”

To try to make Virginia into the same cesspool they made Maryland.


17 posted on 08/28/2012 9:16:16 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Stalwart

“Maryland has a broken window economy built with government jobs paying six-figure salaries. This group is is getting a bit uneasy, and pulling their horns a bit. Even they know this this type of economy is unsustainable.....”
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Yes, much of Maryland’s wealth comes from very highly paid federal employees. The freeze on these high salaries that has been in effect for a couple of years now is having a fiscal impact—indirectly (because of not having these salary increases to tax) “starving the beast”.

These pay freezes need to continue. Once the pay freezes are eventually lifted and VERY MODEST salary increases kick in again, the concept of “locality pay” needs to be phased out. Under locality pay, federal employees in “high cost” areas are paid VERY SUBSTANTIALLY MORE than federal employees in the rest of the US. It’s interesting that these so called high cost areas are always in areas where the Democrats rule. It needs to be gradually phased out and the pay system migrated back to the standard where federal employees who do the same work get the same pay regardless of where they hang their hat. This would further “starve the beast” that the Maryland state and local governments have become.


18 posted on 08/28/2012 9:24:12 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm saying that I don't object to toll roads/tunnels/bridges/ferrys ...

IFF the tolls are used to maintain the facilities on which the tolls are collected.

I'm also saying that folks in Charlottesville shouldn't be paying for roads in Fairfax ... and that folks who live in WV and regularly use roads in Fairfax should be paying for said roads.

19 posted on 08/28/2012 9:35:40 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mrsmith

You got that right. They look across the river and say, “My what good schools they have in Fairfax County. And what low taxes they have, too. And houses are much cheaper. Let’s move there!” And then as soon as they settle in, they begin to complain about all the things that local government should be doing. Before too long, Fairfax County looks just like Montgomery County.


20 posted on 08/28/2012 9:58:29 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: ArrogantBustard
In your more urban parts of Virginia WE ALREADY PAID FOR IT but they built them out in the part of the state where the Democrat bourbons live on their vast horse estates strewn with apple orchards.

Now that we have the greater part of the representation in the legislature it's time to build our roads! If the commonwealth needs tolls, put them on those highways to nowhere!

21 posted on 08/28/2012 1:10:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Talk to the hand.

I have no interest in your marxist class-warfare claptrap.

22 posted on 08/28/2012 1:45:54 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
What class warfare claptrap?

You really aren't from around here are you.......

Virginia used to be a ONE PARTY STATE ~ And the ruling Democrats (the MARXISTS) were called "bourbons" and "barons" in the local parlance.

Of course the Democrats used the powers of the state to feather their nests. That's why we now have a Republican party.

It's time to recover the billions in taxes we've paid for roads to somewhere else to use in our own traffic-jamed urban areas.

23 posted on 08/28/2012 1:51:44 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: House Atreides
Actually, very little of Maryland's wealth comes from employee salaries of any kind ~ Montgomery County, like Fairfax County, has about 1 out of 7 employees involved in some sort of federal entity, with the greater number of them being federal police of some kind, or lawyers, medical researchers, military or postal workers.

The vast majority of federal workers are spread out all over the country.

Federal largess is husbanded by Congress as a natural resource to pump back home.

24 posted on 08/28/2012 1:56:23 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You really aren't from around here are you.......

That's rich ... Mizzzz Indiana.

were called "bourbons" and "barons" in the local parlance.

So much the worse for "local parlance" ...

the billions in taxes we've paid

Who's "we", Kemosabe?

NoVa is crowded with critters directly or by contract employed by Fedzilla ... ie, by tax-eaters.

Let them pay their own way in transportation costs, at least.

25 posted on 08/28/2012 2:02:04 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: House Atreides
The high individual incomes are paid to private sector folks. The federales tap out at just this side of $200,000 and that's going to be a guy with more than one doctorate who works as a researcher at NIH or an intelligence analyst at the Army's Spatial Observation center near me (or a very high ranking political appointee ~ there are just under 900 such folks).

Lobbyists and lawyers make high average annual incomes. We have something like 180,000 of them in Fairfax County. They are not all working for the government ~ but we have several courts in the DC area that attract a great deal of attention, so there's a demand for lawyers you don't find elsewhere.

26 posted on 08/28/2012 2:03:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ArrogantBustard
Outsiders like you ~

BTW, VDOT does everything from streets to sidewalks in Virginia. The state controls all that stuff ~ local governments don't. That's why the state legislature has such a hold on highway money ~ 'cause it's not like anywhere else in the country except Hawaii.

We pay heavy taxes for those highways ~ they build them somewhere else.

I hate thieves.

27 posted on 08/28/2012 2:06:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Outsiders like Mizzz Indiana.

I hate thieves.

Great. Defund Fedzilla. All those federal "workers" and Beltway Bandits can go someplace else, and do something real for a living.

Then you can go back to having lots of deer eating your front yard.

28 posted on 08/28/2012 2:21:47 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: muawiyah

To call LockMart, Boeing, Northrup-Grumman, SAIC, Mitre, etc ad nauseaum “private sector” is more than a bit disingenuous.


29 posted on 08/28/2012 2:30:25 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
You're the guy who wants to steal my tax dollars and build roads to nowhere.

You're hardly within the bounds of Conservative orthodoxy. Sound like an earmark laden RINO to tell the truth.

30 posted on 08/28/2012 2:32:14 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ArrogantBustard
Boeing builds commercial aircraft for sale worldwide ~ and does so in sufficient volume to go a long way toward balancing our 'balance of payments' with foreign countries.

The others peddle armaments ~ we are the world's top marketer of such things, and again, we earn plenty of export dividends selling such things.

That's all private sector stuff ~ our own defense industry skims it so we get the top of the line stuff to beat our enemies.

We have a lot of enemies ~ they come in here and criticize our armaments manufacturers!

31 posted on 08/28/2012 2:37:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Quit lying.


32 posted on 08/28/2012 3:09:52 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Sounds like I dug a hole right to your real core values.


33 posted on 08/28/2012 3:37:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ArrogantBustard

You are arguing as if you believe the employees created the federal government ~


34 posted on 08/28/2012 3:39:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ..

We have a winnah . . . Bob McDonnell!

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


35 posted on 08/29/2012 9:01:10 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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