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Romney says abortion legal for mother's health
AP ^ | Aug 27 | DONNA CASSATA

Posted on 08/28/2012 10:21:59 AM PDT by xzins

Romney says abortion legal for mother's health DONNA CASSATA August 27, 2012 6:43 PM EDT Copyright 2012 Lubbock Online. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — Republican Mitt Romney says he is in favor of abortion in cases of rape, incest and thehealth and life of the mother.

The presidential candidate's addition of the health of the mother is certain to raise questions about Romney'sposition among conservatives. Health can be broadly defined and, in fact, running mate Paul Ryan has challenged the health exception as a major loophole.

Romney commented in an interview Monday with CBS News. The network released Romney's comments before its evening broadcast.

Romney's position on abortion rights has evolved. When he ran for the U.S. Senate in Massachusetts, he backed abortion rights. As a presidential candidate, he has opposed abortion rights and says the Supreme Court should reverse the landmark Roe v. Wade decision that legalized abortion.

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The health of the mother????

There is no one in the life versus abortion debate who doesn't understand this is a different issue than the life of the mother.

So, when Romney juxtaposes "life" with "health" and uses them both together, he is either totally ignorant -- which he isn't -- or he is allowing a loophole big enough to drive all of planned parenthood through.

Intentionally

1 posted on 08/28/2012 10:22:08 AM PDT by xzins
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To: xzins

It is not ok for the health of the mother. Good Lord what a crock. This guy sucks more and more daily! Any mother who kills their own child to save their own is a selfish person.


2 posted on 08/28/2012 10:24:32 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: xzins

i dont understand the argument

if the mothers health is in peril, of course you can have an abortion- what are you going to do? force a women to die to keep her baby (if she doesnt want to?)

I may be as pro-life as possible but I am not going to be stupid about it


3 posted on 08/28/2012 10:25:25 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: Jim Robinson; wagglebee; P-Marlowe; cripplecreek; cva66snipe; Elvina; Finny; greyfoxx39; Hilda; ...

Did Mitt just up the ante?

Or

Was he totally stupid

My money is on he’s trying to cover all the bases so he allows everything.

Let’s look at our scorecard: Romneycare, gay couples, gay adoption, gay boy scouts, gun control, abortion for “health” of mother, the biggest loophole of them all. Add to that “tax code ‘revenue enhancers’”.

If it weren’t so bad already, I’d say it was getting worse.

What it’s getting is what WE, THE RESISTANCE, predicted. NOT what the ABOs predicted.


4 posted on 08/28/2012 10:26:04 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
Excuse me? How can Romney have some exception to a ban if there is no ban?

Abortion is currently legal for mother's health, wealth, whim, folly, coin flipping or mood.

THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS. This is such an idiotic circular firing squad.

5 posted on 08/28/2012 10:27:01 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: xzins

Since the law isn’t about to change, Romney should shut up.

Tell the reporter, The “rape & incest” meme, is a red herring, never before proposed in legislation, so there’s no point in debating a fraudulent position.”


6 posted on 08/28/2012 10:27:13 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: xzins
The same AP article was already posted on FR here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2923606/posts?q=1&;page=1

7 posted on 08/28/2012 10:27:25 AM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: xzins

How anout that Romeny is a Full Fledged Baby Killer!


8 posted on 08/28/2012 10:28:29 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: xzins

How anout that Romeny is a Full Fledged Baby Killer!


9 posted on 08/28/2012 10:28:56 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: napscoordinator; Mr. K

Everyone knows that “life of mother” and “health of mother” are separate discussions in the debate.

Health of mother includes psychology, “I don’t ‘feel’ like it”, and the common cold and sniffles.


10 posted on 08/28/2012 10:28:56 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

He is playing for winner takes all stakes. This goes back to the sixties. He is looking at burying conservatives forever, and raising himself as the new benchmark. This is the culmination of a counter-Reagan revolution that began on January 20, 1989.


11 posted on 08/28/2012 10:29:10 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: xzins
What else is he gonna say? The VAST majority of women voters have bought in this crap about abortion. He would have zero (0) chance of being elected otherwise.
12 posted on 08/28/2012 10:30:02 AM PDT by Clock King
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To: G Larry; sam_paine; P-Marlowe

Romney is telegraphing what he personally believes.


13 posted on 08/28/2012 10:31:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

He’s pro-life when it’s convenient and not when it’s not. Do you think it’s the 3-million dollars that PP is pouring into anti-Mitt advertising that caused him to suddenly feel for the woman with health issues (runny nose, backache, etc.)? He is so full of malarkey, but very predictable.


14 posted on 08/28/2012 10:31:37 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: Clock King

He should say what Ronald Reagan said, as he persuaded America: “If we have questions whether we are dealing with life, then we should err on the side of life.”


15 posted on 08/28/2012 10:33:16 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins; Tennessee Nana
Curse Romney's sudden but Inevitable betrayal!

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/Mortis_strike/funny-cat-pictures-curse-your-sudden-but-inevitable-betrayal.jpg

16 posted on 08/28/2012 10:33:47 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Normalcy results in the creation of life, Sodomy results in AIDS)
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To: xzins
Romney is telegraphing what he personally believes.

Only GOD knows what Romney personally believes.

Did you think to perhaps ping Him?
17 posted on 08/28/2012 10:34:19 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: xzins

Why the h#ll is anyone surprised?


18 posted on 08/28/2012 10:35:37 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: mkjessup

C’mon, mkjessup.

He SAID it.

That required no mind-reading on my part.

He said it. He’s telegraphing his beliefs.


19 posted on 08/28/2012 10:35:48 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: svcw

I’m not surprised, svcw.

With this “health” loophold, he has permitted every single abortion imaginable.

We’re only awaiting his endorsing the “paid by our tax dollars ‘on demand’” exclusion. /s


20 posted on 08/28/2012 10:39:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
And that was also legal prior to Roe v Wade.
21 posted on 08/28/2012 10:39:58 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

health of mother is distinguished from life of mother now, paleo. It wasn’t thought believable in the past that a Planned Parenthood counselor would encourage a young woman to get an abortion for “emotional tremblings”, a psychological “health” matter, but they are on film encouraging a young woman to get an abortion in order to do sex selection.

You know that.


22 posted on 08/28/2012 10:43:39 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins; napscoordinator; Mr. K; sam_paine; G Larry; JediJones; Uncle Slayton; Psalm 144; ...

So we have an AP story about a SeeBS interview that helps Obama's campaign steer the campaign toward the "war on women" and away from the economy, and Freepers gleefully bite.

Brilliant.

P.S. abb...have you deleted your "Dinosaur Media" list yet? It still has complete control over the gullible public.

23 posted on 08/28/2012 10:44:33 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: xzins

> Romney says abortion legal for mother’s health

If Romney thinks that he can pull votes away from abortionist Obama with such talk, he’s dead wrong.


24 posted on 08/28/2012 10:45:15 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: sam_paine

Obama was not in this interview, SP, it was Mitt Romney.

In the ROMNEY interview, ROMNEY said he supports abortion for “health of the mother” in addition to “life of the mother.”

Anything can be construed as “health” related, SP. You know that.

Why are you trying to defend this? Speak up against it. Have him back down.


25 posted on 08/28/2012 10:49:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Mr. K

I agree with you completely.

It’s a fact that the word health has been stretched by some to mean virtually anything, but I don’t agree that this is necessarily what Romney means and I certainly don’t see any evidence of this is the article that was posted.


26 posted on 08/28/2012 10:50:58 AM PDT by CityCenter
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To: sam_paine

Sickens me how the rats have changed the actual killing of one’s own child to be called “women’s health”. How vile, how evil.


27 posted on 08/28/2012 10:51:32 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: xzins

Stop. From what I read, the campaign released a clarification about this statement, and it DID NOT include the controversial “health” language.


28 posted on 08/28/2012 10:53:02 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: napscoordinator

When they are talking abou health—they are also talking about mental or emotional health which is a very big loophole. Any woman can claim emotional distress as an excuse to abort the baby. Now physical health is different. If the mother could physically die as a result of giving birth, I say save the mother over the child. But in America, with modern medicine —how many women actually die in this fashion? (DIE IN CHILDBIRTH)... ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MEDICAL CARE IS NOT SHODDY.


29 posted on 08/28/2012 10:54:12 AM PDT by brooklyn dave
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To: SoFloFreeper

So, you’re saying it was just a Freudian slip?


30 posted on 08/28/2012 10:54:34 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Even today women die in childbirth,{ very small percent}. So a woman could at anytime demand an abortion, for health and life reasons. Exactly what we have now, Abortion on demand. Now we can also add gender selection as a reason for abortion . { I will be so depressed if I have another boy }It is not just opening doors it is knocking down all walls.


31 posted on 08/28/2012 10:55:08 AM PDT by brightright
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To: sam_paine

>THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS.

If you are trying to eliminate the women and independent vote that kind of statement will certainly do it.

Perhaps there really is a desire to elect every democrat on the tickets and relegate the GOP to extinction?


32 posted on 08/28/2012 10:55:25 AM PDT by soycd
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To: napscoordinator
Any mother who kills their own child to save their own is a selfish person.

Is this a serious statement? You honestly believe that a woman should chose death?

What if it is due to rape or incest? Should she chose death because a violent criminal impregnated her?

If you are serious - please do not respond. You are obviously demented and there is no point speaking with you.

33 posted on 08/28/2012 10:55:36 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: xzins

Why don’t Republicans quit even talking about abortion? It’s a no-win topic.


34 posted on 08/28/2012 10:59:14 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: xzins

http://www.mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-view/2011/06/my-pro-life-pledge


35 posted on 08/28/2012 11:00:15 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: sam_paine

doesn;t matter , to some they would rather have obama and keep going on and on.

My second to the last guy won, Michelle, Cain, Newt and Rick and Rick all lost I have to move on and hope those shouting stop this nonsense and show some class


36 posted on 08/28/2012 11:01:31 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: xzins; formosa
Why are you trying to defend this? Speak up against it. Have him back down.

I'm not saying you are, but think: If you were a false screen name for Axelrod, how would you post ANYTHING different from what you're doing here?

AXELROD as XZINS: "Hey PSSSST! Everyone! Get away from the economics threads! Ignore that Unemployment report! Forget Fast And Furious! Ignore ALL that stuff! Romney said "health and life" instead of "life" and we should crucify him for it! C'mon Freepers! Let's charge forth and focus on things consistent with the "war on Women" theme!!!!

37 posted on 08/28/2012 11:01:42 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: CityCenter; Mr. K
It’s a fact that the word health has been stretched by some to mean virtually anything,

It's been stretched by the United States Supreme Court to mean virtually anything:

"the medical judgment may be exercised in the light of all factors - physical, emotional, psychological, familial, and the woman's age - relevant to the well-being of the patient. All these factors may relate to health." - Doe v Bolton, January 22, 1973 (the same day as Roe v. Wade)

but I don’t agree that this is necessarily what Romney means

Either he knows the history of the "health" exception, in which case his lack of clarity is deliberate duplicity - or he doesn't, in which case he is shockingly ignorant about this vital issue.

38 posted on 08/28/2012 11:06:15 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

I am 1 million percent serious! In fact, I would LOVE for Akin to be our Presidential Nominee. He is a hero in the war on life. You obviously are very liberal.


39 posted on 08/28/2012 11:08:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: soycd; xzins; formosa
Perhaps there really is a desire to elect every democrat on the tickets and relegate the GOP to extinction?

You betcha! This thread is a perfect example of the circular firing squad.

There's so much chaos you can't even see that we both completely agree.

I SAID: "Excuse me? How can Romney have some exception to a ban if there is no ban? ... THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS."

In other words, there is currently no such thing as an exception to the ban on abortion because there is no damn ban on abortion!!!!!

Therefore it doesn't matter wtf any Republican candidate is "for" or "against" because IT DOES NOT MATTER AS LONG AS ROE V. WADE IS IN EFFECT.

12 million babies were murdered during Ronald Reagan's 8 years. He was "against" abortion (after he was FOR it in California.) SO WHAT?! What did that have to do with the fact that Carter had to go!? NOTHING.

40 posted on 08/28/2012 11:08:32 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: xzins

It makes one wonder if Romney wants to win. Has he been threatened?

Why would he blow up his own convention?

Over 186 Paul delegates, out of a sea of Romney delegates?

Who buys that?


41 posted on 08/28/2012 11:12:16 AM PDT by RitaOK
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To: xzins; napscoordinator; Mr. K; sam_paine; G Larry; JediJones; Uncle Slayton; Psalm 144; ...

Does everyone on this thread understand that if the Supreme Court overturned Roe V. Wade TOMORROW that abortion would still be legal in New York and California and a score of other states if not nearly all now?

But we should focus on this and do Obama’s bidding and ignore all the economic news and failed policies, etc?


42 posted on 08/28/2012 11:14:23 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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it doesn't matter wtf any Republican candidate is "for" or "against" because IT DOES NOT MATTER AS LONG AS ROE V. WADE IS IN EFFECT.

And no president will ever have any effect on whether Roe v Wade remains in effect?

43 posted on 08/28/2012 11:16:38 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: xzins

Mitt is pro-abortion and pro-homosexual.


44 posted on 08/28/2012 11:17:51 AM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: sam_paine

If I have a baby, my hair will fall out.

If I have a baby, I will get depressed.

If I have a baby, I will gain weight.

If I have a baby, I might get a headache.

If I have a baby, I could get a hangnail.

The bottom line is that Romney is a Baby Killer.


45 posted on 08/28/2012 11:17:51 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: sam_paine

But we should focus on this

Yes killing babies is such a bore. Come on. This is the most important social issue of our time. It needs to be completely abolished. We are murdering babies and you find that not important.


46 posted on 08/28/2012 11:18:15 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: xzins

They don;t define “Health” if they mean “mental Health” in there, it could be used to justify EVERY single abortion that is done for Birth Control purposes...


47 posted on 08/28/2012 11:18:37 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: sam_paine; xzins; napscoordinator; Mr. K; G Larry; JediJones; Uncle Slayton; Psalm 144
Does everyone on this thread understand that if the Supreme Court overturned Roe V. Wade TOMORROW that abortion would still be legal in New York and California and a score of other states if not nearly all now?

I understand that if the Supreme Court overturned Roe V. Wade TOMORROW, abortion policy would be returned to voters who don't support abortion-on-demand-until-the-umbilical-cord-is-cut (except perhaps in a few fever swamps like New York and California).

48 posted on 08/28/2012 11:20:07 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Mr. K

Agree 100%.

In fact, my only exception for abortion is when the life of the mother is endangered.


49 posted on 08/28/2012 11:21:30 AM PDT by comebacknewt (Newt (sigh) what could have been . . .)
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To: xzins; All

Team Romney made a tough choice : hard work to appeal to the conservative voters, or easy work to appeal to the disaffected liberal voters. There appears to be sufficient volume of Obama buyer's remorse going around to think the easy path to victory will succeed. In the choice between what's right and what's easy, they went with "easy". It is insulting to our intelligence to imply Romney's feet can be held to a conservative fire. The liberals have a fire too, built on the backs of conservative stick gatherers and flint miners. And there's a big cushy chair pulled up to it with Romney's name on it if he pulls this election off.


50 posted on 08/28/2012 11:21:34 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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