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Obama finalizes auto mileage mandate
The Hill ^ | August 28, 2012 | Ben Geman & Keith Laing

Posted on 08/28/2012 10:54:05 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo

” The EPA needs to be abolished or at least gutted to the bone and neutered as far as making regulations. “

I was a kid when this was formed, and even then, I knew it would grow into a monster.


21 posted on 08/28/2012 11:11:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: FrankR

LOL!!


22 posted on 08/28/2012 11:12:10 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: jazusamo

They calculate that number in an odd way. Here is how it translates to real world numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Average_Fuel_Economy#Agreed_standards_by_model_year.2C_2011-2025


23 posted on 08/28/2012 11:12:35 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: jazusamo

A President Romney could put a stop to this, correct?

Democrats think that they could mandate that a car be as safe and as advanced as the Space Shuttle and that it won’t effect the prices..... just another example of how economically ignorant they are.


24 posted on 08/28/2012 11:12:51 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: FrankR

LOL! Good one, Frank.


25 posted on 08/28/2012 11:13:40 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

54.5 miles per gallon.

That is pretty amazing. I get 35 GPH now and I only have to fill up every other week or so. I have a Toyota.


26 posted on 08/28/2012 11:14:30 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: jazusamo

The EPA needs to go away.


27 posted on 08/28/2012 11:16:57 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: BenLurkin

The conspiracist in me says that this is just another turn on the ratchet aimed toward getting the populace more and more angry and getting the Civil War they’ve been arming up for.

The realist in me says that somebody has made a political calculation and thinks that the populace will just roll over one more time like they always do.


28 posted on 08/28/2012 11:17:10 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Noamie
Democrats think that they could mandate that a car be as safe and as advanced as the Space Shuttle and that it won’t effect the prices

Actually they know full well that it will cause the price to increase and the performance to decrease drastically. They WANT to price to rise so as to make it harder for individuals to buy automobiles - part of the move to eventually force everyone to use mass transit. Another nail in the coffin of the little bit of remaining freedom in the USA.

29 posted on 08/28/2012 11:20:04 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: jazusamo
the mandate will eventually save consumers an estimated $1.7 trillion in fuel costs and save 12 billion barrels of oil.

Until a mileage tax obliterates those savings.

30 posted on 08/28/2012 11:20:17 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: jazusamo

“Laws of physics - BEND to my Imperial will!”


31 posted on 08/28/2012 11:20:55 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: The Working Man
The realist in me says that somebody has made a political calculation and thinks that the populace will just roll over one more time like they always do.

That's the much more likely scenario. Oh, folks will talk about it a lot on internet sites such as FR... but civil war? Not gonna happen.

32 posted on 08/28/2012 11:22:10 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: jazusamo

I agree, and I think an argument could be made that would resonate with a freedom loving people. There was only one candidate I know of who made that argument, and it’s not Romney. I guess I still have hope, but just a little.


33 posted on 08/28/2012 11:23:04 AM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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I'd like to see Republicans start to strike back at this stuff. They could begin by mandating a rate of 80% recycled materials used in the production of newspapers and magazines. Next they could mandate a 50% necessity of using "green" energy in their operations, including transportation and travel. They would have to certify that no chemicals were discharged into the environment in the manufacture of the newsprint they buy.

On to Hollywood. There should also be a mandate here of 50% use of "green" energy in film productions, including all transportation and travel. Only all organic, locally-produced food can be provided on the sets, unless food is standard vending machine fare, such as chips, candy and soda. Strict compliance with hours worked per person per day, or heavy, confiscatory fines.

On to tax-exempt charitable foundations. They should be mandated to distribute 20% of their wealth every year. This would include colleges and universities. Expenditures for fundraising cannot exceed 20% of the funds raised. Of course, there would be the obligatory requirement of a 50% use of "green" energy in their operations, including transportation and travel.

34 posted on 08/28/2012 11:23:18 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: verum ago

Sounds about right : )


35 posted on 08/28/2012 11:23:48 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: jazusamo
Administration officials called the rules a landmark step in efforts to battle global warming.

It's no big mystery that the idea is to deliberately and methodically use the very mechanisms of government to heap so many arbitrary rules and regulations on industry that it eventually has no other recourse but to pack up and leave.
36 posted on 08/28/2012 11:29:04 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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...the mandate will eventually save consumers an estimated $1.7 trillion in fuel costs and save 12 billion barrels of oil.

How devious.
Does anyone honestly think that the government is going to stand by and take a loss in the tax revenue they get from fuel and petroleum based products?

Now, me, I'm not that gullible. They'll raise taxes somewhere else and in a higher amount and consumers will find that 'their' estimated $1.7 trillion 'savings' isn't a 'savings' at all.

"Well Americans would have saved that much money if we hadn't had to raise taxes to make up for unexpected shortfalls." /future politician

And eventually that 12 billion barrels of oil will get tapped so it's not "saved" at all in the end.

Moooooooo

37 posted on 08/28/2012 11:32:54 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: jazusamo

This is like legislating that Pi = 3

It it long past time for CAFE to die.


38 posted on 08/28/2012 11:33:51 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: verum ago

Hydrogen powered cars would be good, but I’m sane enough to realize that it will take at least two decades to accomplish it.


39 posted on 08/28/2012 11:34:03 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

They are issuing rules without using the legislative branch of the government? Just think, when the laws of physics are repealed, farmers will be driving their crops to market in carbon fiber trucks with bicycle tires.


40 posted on 08/28/2012 11:36:16 AM PDT by toolman1401
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