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Gun ID legislation may trigger exodus of gunmakers Remington, Colt
Fox News.com ^ | August 28, 2012 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 08/28/2012 2:10:15 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

Two venerable American gun manufacturers — Remington and Colt — could head for the West their weapons helped win if New York and Connecticut force them to implement microstamping technology.

Microstamping, or ballistic imprinting, is a patented process that uses laser technology to engrave a tiny marking of the make, model and serial number on the tip of a gun’s firing pin to allow an imprint of that information on spent cartridge cases. Supporters of the technology say it will be a “game changer,” allowing authorities to quickly identify the registered guns used in crimes. Opponents claim the process is costly, unreliable and may ultimately impact the local economies that heavily depend on the gun industry, including Ilion, N.Y., where Remington Arms maintains a factory, and Hartford, Conn., where Colt's manufacturing is headquartered.

“Mandatory microstamping would have an immediate impact of a loss of 50 jobs,” New York State Sen. James Seward, a Republican whose district includes Ilion, said, adding that Remington employs 1,100 workers in the town. “You’re talking about a company that has options in other states. Why should they be in a state that’s hostile to legal gun manufacturing? There could be serious negative economic impact with the passage of microstamping and other gun-control laws.”

In March, prior to the recent mass shootings at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo.,  a Sikh temple in Wisconsin and at New York’s iconic Empire State Building, Remington executive Stephen Jackson wrote to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo warning forced microstamping could prompt the company to “reconsider its commitment to the New York market altogether rather than spend the astronomical sums of money” necessary to reconfigure its manufacturing and assembly processes.

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1 posted on 08/28/2012 2:10:25 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
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To: Neil E. Wright

They should all come to the gun friendly states down South, where they probably belong.


2 posted on 08/28/2012 2:15:25 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Neil E. Wright

What morons.

I I decide to knock someone off.

I go to the range, pick up some shell casings the same caliber as I am going to use, shoot the guy and drop the casings I picked up.

Or I use a revolver and no casings will be left at the scene.

What morons.


3 posted on 08/28/2012 2:20:07 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: KoRn

Remington already has an ammunition plant in Lonoke, Arkansas - I’m sure the folks in Arkansas (and the state government) would be more than happy to give them all sorts of incentives to move!

But I have a question - wouldn’t it be simple just to take some fine sandpaper or a polishing wheel and just remove the microprint on the firing pin?

For that matter - wouldn’t the micro engraving eventually be worn out of normal wear? What if the firing pin must be replaced? Would a new one have to be specifically manufactured for THAT gun with all the information engraved?


4 posted on 08/28/2012 2:20:33 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: old curmudgeon
Wrote that in too big a hurry.

I would use a revolver in either case. The only difference in the two scenarios would be whether I dropped the other guy's casings to put the cops on a goose chase.

With a revolver, even if I have to reload, it is a simple matter to put the empties in my pocket.

I can not believe how dumb libs are.

But then anyone who can't write a budget or 4 years, who does not know how to fix the PO, social security and medicare can't fix anything.

5 posted on 08/28/2012 2:25:11 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Neil E. Wright

NE Mississippi would be a good place to locate. Shipping on the Tenn/Tom waterway or a good center point for railroad shipping.


6 posted on 08/28/2012 2:26:53 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

I left New York State in 1980.............after having paid 11% tax on my income there.....Went to Texas and never looked back.


7 posted on 08/28/2012 2:30:04 PM PDT by Einherjar
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To: TheBattman

...What I was thinking.

Just replace the firing pin. Just about anyone could easily do it. I’m SURE the law stipulates that new weapons will require the unique firing pins, otherwise it would be a totally useless law, written by legislators that don’t know shit about firearms.(I’m SURE we wouldn’t be surprised. LOL)


8 posted on 08/28/2012 2:31:16 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: old curmudgeon

Use a double barrel shotgun. Can’t do ballistics on buckshot...


9 posted on 08/28/2012 2:31:39 PM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Ah the liberal mindset. ID for ammo, when it won’t make much difference. No ID for voters when it would.

Glad I won’t be here when they get around to the ID that goes in the right hand or forehead. It can’t be much longer now, things are accelerating.


10 posted on 08/28/2012 2:45:35 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Kimber Manufacturing (my 1911s) is in Yonkers, NY. I’d think that they’d be looking to GTH out of there, too.


11 posted on 08/28/2012 2:48:32 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Harry Reid [PERVERT-NV] has Vickie-the-goat in lingerie & stiletto heels, tied-up in his office.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

The examples I have seen do not appear to be firing pins but another part on the that stamps the area near the rim and does a lot of damage to the cartridge. It might eliminate reloading because of the damage.


12 posted on 08/28/2012 2:48:36 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Neil E. Wright

Texas, the one word for those companies to keep in the front of the minds.

Texas, By the Grace of God.


13 posted on 08/28/2012 2:50:11 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Neil E. Wright

I would LOVE to have them here in Colorado. We have a fantastic manufacturing base, a well educated population, and all the land they could ever need to set up shop and a shooting range (hint, hint).


14 posted on 08/28/2012 2:57:45 PM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: old curmudgeon

They are not dumb. This is not intended to make anyone safer. They are in the process of making everyone a criminal. This is by design. The rules are getting so vast and complicated that no one can possibly follow them. When the honest people are busy trying to follow the law, the tyrants are busy stealing power.


15 posted on 08/28/2012 3:03:20 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: TheBattman

In addition to their ammo plant in Lonoke, Remington has a firearms plant outside Mayfield, Kentucky and their R&D facility is in Elizabethtown, Kentucky (about 2 miles from where I live).


16 posted on 08/28/2012 3:26:30 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: KoRn

Moving to Montana, gonna be a gun manufacturing tycoon...sorry Frank Zappa


17 posted on 08/28/2012 3:35:33 PM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: KoRn
Hmm, if this new marking technique is made law, and not applied to previously made weapons, then what we now hold will be worth lots more when the new marking system weapons are the only new guns someone can buy!

I have what I consider a better suggestion, concerning gunshows. MAke ALL sales at gunshows have to be background searched, as in, if I as an individual want to sell to another individual at the show, in order to take the weapon out of the show it must have been background checked for buyer background through one of the show kiosks. Every weapon brought in is checked for 'unloaded' condition, so it would not be that much inconvenience to check all going out, to match with ownership or transfer.

18 posted on 08/28/2012 3:36:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Dutch Boy

Did you really think we want those laws observed? said Dr. Ferris. We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with. (’Atlas Shrugged’ 1957)


19 posted on 08/28/2012 3:37:44 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1317 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: KoRn

I’m hoping they come to the gun friendly state of Montana — specifically The Flathead Valley where we having a growing gun industry.


20 posted on 08/28/2012 3:40:49 PM PDT by proparapi
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