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Over 120 Pastors & Christian Leaders Stand with Todd (Akin)
Akin for Senate campaign ^ | 8/28/2012 | Todd Aken

Posted on 08/28/2012 3:47:16 PM PDT by darrellmaurina

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To: doug from upland

I suspect that at some point you have either read lots of fantasy or been a fantasy writer yourself.

I would instruct you, however, if you are a writer, that when the character is being calm and educational, that is never to be characterized as “apoplectic”. It is entirely the wrong word.

The Doug of the Past would have been fair.

But...whatever...Romney does that to people.


141 posted on 08/29/2012 10:59:04 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

re: But...whatever...Romney does that to people.
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I read some fantasy, but mostly it was history and political books. History teaches us lessons. Romney did nothing to me. Once again, I will clarify for those who do not understand. I grow weary. If you were one of my students during the 10 years I taught college, you would be getting an incomplete. It should be an F, but I wanted to give you another chance. You probably mean well.

- I profoundly disagree with Romney
- I have not supported Romney
- He was not my candidate
- I was very disappointed when Newt and Santorum could not win it
- I have given Romney no money
- If he wins, which is necessary for this nation’s survival, I will not just sit back for his social policies; I will be out in the street fighting him

My position is the same as the founder of FreeRepublic. Did Romney do something to JimRob? Go tell that to Jim. Tell him he is not the Jim of the Past. I don’t think Jim is a sellout.

“Obama the capitalism-hating, liberty-hating, America-hating Marxist must be destroyed!!”


142 posted on 08/29/2012 11:52:09 AM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: doug from upland; Jim Robinson

Jim already knows I think he’s wrong. I think Romney is as bad as Obama. I have not gone back on that. I will not. I think he respects that

With Romney continuing to move left, I would not be surprised to see Jim Robinson go back to his former position.

Just recently Romney has come out in favor of a health of mother exception for abortion. We both know that is radical open ended abortion.

That has to weigh heavily on Jim Robinson’s heart.


143 posted on 08/29/2012 12:26:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

re: I think Romney is as bad as Obama

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That statement amazes me and it is where we disagree. You believe anybody but Romney, including Obama, the guy who believes in infanticide. With that package, you get ACORN, no support for Israel, Iran with nukes, ballooning dept and economic ruin, more dependence on foreign countries for our energy, skyrocketing energy prices, laws from a stroke of the pen without Congress, shutdown of talk radio, censorship of the internet, Black Muslims with weapons at polling places, the Muslim Brotherhood, Eric Holder, Valerie Jarrett, Van Jones, and the rest of the Marxists who hate America. No thanks.

I guess Newt of the Past was better. Palin of the Past was better. Santorum of the Past was Better. They have all sold out.


144 posted on 08/29/2012 12:47:13 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: NoGrayZone
As humans, we are unfortunately doomed to make mistakes, over and over again.  What sets people apart are those who CONFESS to their mistakes, ask forgiveness and try to repair any damage done.  As a Christian, the Lord asks us to forgive those who trespass against us, just as He does for us.

Yes, as humans we all continually make mistakes.  None the less, we strive to become educated and make as few of them as possible.  I do believe in the concept of confessing our mistakes and asking, even expecting forgiveness.  Where we're [you and I] having a disconnect here, is the issue of who should be forgiving this guy.  I don't personally have a problem with the guy, until his antics start screwing with the image of Republicans at large.  And I say this only in recognition of the fact that it is the Republican image that must remain good for people to sign on to support it's candidates.

Look, I drive through an intersection and hurt people.  I can't just take that back.  What I did has consequences.  What Akin did has consequences.  If he had apologized and touched on certain points with candor expressing a comprehension of what mitakes he made, he may have been able to wiggle out of this mess.  It was when he went back and tried to apologize and only made it worse, that things got truly dicey.

What he did and failed to do, had consequences.  I can't stop that anymore than God is going to stop me from having to pay a civil penalty or fine for doing something wrong.

The issue of me liking this guy or not, forgiving him or not, is not the issue here.  The issue here is how stupid can one guy be, and how can he rehab himself from here.  I don't think he can, so I have tried to be realistic about what choice he was left with.

If you disagree, that's okay.  I'm not always right.  Perhaps I'll be proven wrong on this one.  We'll see.

 


145 posted on 08/29/2012 12:53:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I am the last person to state what is wrong or right. Fighting my own demons is hard enough!

For me personally, I believe He works in our daily lives. Perhaps just to see which crossroad we choose.

I chose my name NoGrayZone, because that is what I have been consistantly “accused” of.

I don’t live in gray. My world is black and white, right and wrong. To me, gray areas represent an area to do wrong.....and boy do people use it to the extreme!


146 posted on 08/29/2012 1:14:08 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: doug from upland
sold out?

No, I think they've made a grave error.

You do not, Doug, gain by taking the guy who will kill only 7 babies and say that's an improvement on the guy who will kill 10 babies. You are still choosing evil, a baby killer.

The Apostle Paul is very clear in Romans 3, you do not choose evil because you think it will result in good. Romans 3:8 "8 Why not say--as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as some claim that we say--"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is deserved. "

147 posted on 08/29/2012 6:04:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: wardaddy

Well said.

There is indeed a roar of hubris bellowing from the GOPE’s brittle castle.


148 posted on 08/29/2012 7:09:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: doug from upland
I have not supported Romney
- I have given Romney no money

Forgive me for backtracking to an earlier post, doug, but the italicized hit me later on.

I'm assuming that in the past you have given money.

Why not now? I'm curious.

149 posted on 08/29/2012 7:42:16 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

I have never given Romney a contribution. I did not want him as the candidate, and he was next to the last on my list, just above Ron Paul. I wanted Newt/Bachmann. Or Santorum. Since California is not in play, I have the luxury of voting for a real conservative. I may write myself in. In a toss up state, I would not be happy about it, but I would have to vote for Romney -— not just sit out and effectively benefit the man who has always loathed this country.

Obama must be thrown out. I will then join the rest of you trying to move Romney to the right. I hope Paul Ryan can help in that effort.


150 posted on 08/29/2012 8:16:56 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: doug from upland

You are basically saying you don’t send him money because he isn’t worthy of it. That’s how I feel about my vote. He supports things that I am certain are sinful. I have zero doubt. I just can’t do it. It violates everything I believe.


151 posted on 08/29/2012 8:26:20 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Fine. Since everyone sins, the best policy is probably to not vote again.

I may end up making a contribution. I don’t know. But I do know this -— this great nation will not survive four more years of Obama.


152 posted on 08/29/2012 9:18:11 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: doug from upland

The revelation provided by the Bible reveals that some behavior is worse than others. Some sins are abominations, some are even understandable, such as stealing to feed one’s family in desperate times. Murder, indiscrimate killing, of course, brought about the death penalty.


153 posted on 08/30/2012 3:26:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: svcw; Black Agnes
pssst, It’s Romney’s liberalism and so called conservatives fawning over him that pisses me off.

Amen...some freepers...especially the ones drawn to harpy life...often middle aged women and male hangers on....cannot help but coalesce into some club about whoever the flavor is here...whether someone we nearly all like as in Palin or Bush in his heyday

or now Romney...you just wait...the fawning has already begun and the wolf pack of busy knitters forming.

I see a bevy of old names streaming in who have a history of exactly that since Jim Thompson gave in last week...amazing...they just come running back

and you know what binds them?

they are motivated more by the feeling of belonging to something here than they are ideology

I will vote for Romney but I sure don't like it and I find his team and the GOP establishment around him disgustingly soft on Obama and weak on the ideology that brung them to the table. Paul Ryan is their bone...a good one and worth getting Mitt elected so Ryan has a chance down the road.

154 posted on 08/30/2012 7:53:23 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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To: chris37

No, honey conservatives do not support liberalism, it is “so called conservatives” who do.
Just look in the mirror that’s you.


155 posted on 08/30/2012 8:25:51 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

Enjoy communism, babe.


156 posted on 08/30/2012 9:36:40 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Well well, it’s nice to know that I am correct about you - thanks.


157 posted on 08/30/2012 9:57:35 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

You’re welcome.

It’s equally nice to know that I am correct about you.

You are the proverbial frog in a pot of rapidly warming water.

But you refuse to reach up out of the pot to turn the dial on the stove down, because you’re little froggy fingers just aren’t strong enough to turn the dial to off in one go.

So instead you simply refuse to turn the dial at all, and the result of your obstinance is clear to everyone except you.

You do not understand how your mortal enemy has used progressivism against you, and you further do not understand how you can use progressivism against them.

When an enemy defeats you using a superior tactic, then you learn that tactic, adopt its mechanisms, and use it against them.

The democrats cannot swallow their own medecine, in fact it makes them choke.

But you are too arrogant and smug to realize any of what I have told you. You are ignorant of your dire situation, and you are so smug about your ignorance that you deserve to be defeated by your enemy.

You deserve it.


158 posted on 08/30/2012 10:07:58 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

You are apparently just a scared little person, who has abandoned everything they say they believe in out of fear.

I do not live in fear, I live in truth.

You are free to chose the person you feel will save you from this fear, that is your right, just as it is my right to reject liberalism.

Good bye, do what you need to do, I am going to the beach and enjoy the rest of the summer.


159 posted on 08/30/2012 10:17:18 AM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: svcw

Enjoy the warm water, babe.

You deserve it.


160 posted on 08/30/2012 10:21:24 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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