Skip to comments.Todd Akin Is Not a Victim
Posted on 08/29/2012 3:00:11 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
Missouri Republican Todd Akin is vowing to continue his Senate campaign, though the question increasingly is: to what purpose? His continuing candidacy is harming the social-conservative wing of the GOP that he claims to be defending.
Mitt Romney and other Republican officials sensibly disavowed the Congressman after his recent comment that "legitimate rape" can be a contraceptive. For Mr. Romney, this was something of a Sister Souljah momentnot that he's getting much media credit for it. But rather than leave the race to another Republican who might be able to win, Mr. Akin has since cast himself as a pro-life martyr. He's blaming "party bosses" who he claims don't really care about the sanctity of life the way he does.
He's also received some unfortunate cover from Mike Huckabee, the talk show host and former Arkansas Governor, who wrote in an email to supporters: "Is this what the party really thinks of principled pro-life advocates? Do we forgive and forget the verbal gaffes of Republicans who are 'conveniently pro-life' for political advantage, but crucify one who truly believes that every life is sacred?"
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Consider the absurdity of a Presidential candidate working to keep a member of his party out of the Senate. Is it not clear the GOPe prefers the lunatic McCaskill over the conservative Akin? What about the GOPe attempted coup yesterday to empower Mittens to substitute unworthy delegates with rinos of his choosing? The denial of funds to Akin and recent Convention events are closely connected and designed to show the world of trouble the establishment can visit on any conservative it wishes.
Todd Akin is the duly elected and selected candidate for Senate by the Republicans of Missouri. He has already apologized for his unfortunate selection of words. Yet, cowardly members of his own party have turned their backs to him. The Republicans are no better than the Democrats when it comes to ignoring the will of the people.
His own party is following their own base instincts in wanting to totally and absolutely destroy Todd Akin for a couple of words. Maybe they need to take a deep breath and re-think what they are doing to themselves.
It is time to support this candidate. Or, like the Democrats the Republicans have no confidence in the intelligence of the voters?
This is so utterly twisted. Akin is helping reelect McCaskill all by himself, which is probably why she supported him in the primaries. Akin needs to get out now before he does further damage to the effort to remove McCaskill and regain the Senate.
Just paint so-called social conservatives as knuckle-dragging snake charmers, ignore the voting record of Akin, his 97 American Conservative Union lifetime rating and encourage us to devour each other. Its at least as old as Sun Tzu, divide and conquer. I won't have any of it.
There will be two candidates on the Missouri ballot, a conservative and a psycho. Pick one.
Well, if it is true that Akins people were about to pull off the stunt described above, I see why substitutions were necessary.
The GOPe regards us, not the rats as the enemy!
Oh, puh-leez. Putting words like this into Akin's mouth is disgusting and helps no one. Conservatives have a horrible record of attacking other conservatives who come under liberal attack. We should support our own, not throw landmines under their feet.
Is it true that Akins people were trying to pull off the stunt described above or not?
Come on, Todd Akin is an embarrassment.
By the way, Anthony Weiner also apologized.
The denial of funds for Akin is not because he is a Conservative. It is because he exposed himself as a total moron at the national level, and in doing so inflicted significant damage to the Conservative causes he supposedly supports.
I am not questioning Akin's Conservative convictions or his deep genuine support for pro-life causes. What I am questioning is his commitment to the cause given his stubborn self-motivated refusal to step aside. Fair or not, his moronic and callous comments regarding rape and abortion disqualify him from the office that he is running. That is simply a fact, and something that a qualified candidate should have understood BEFORE he decided to demonstrate his ignorance of female biology for all to see.
He can represent the mainstream of our values, just don’t let him be the one to go into the public square to argue and defend them... he can’t talk them...
I notice that no author wanted to put their name to this abortion of an editorial.
This is an absolute lie and you know it.
When you have to lie so abominably and take the low road so deceitfully then you have surrendered any high ground that others once thought you possessed. Got it???
He talked just fine the other day on the radio when he said that it is unfair to just selfishly abandon those who have worked so hard for his campaign and just surrender the results of their hard labor to the demands of party elites few of whom wanted him as their candidate in the first place.
Save the country, then we can hash out other things. Yes it may be true that RINOs don't want any part of the kind of conservatism that is represented by the right and far right. But if a RINO is the choice to preserve all other freedoms, then I'd rather be fighting RINOs after securing our freedom than what Obama's America will bring. And let's face it, there will never be any one person who will be able to sooth all ills and appeal equally to all the varying degrees of conservatism. We've got what we got... made great progress in 2010, and regardless what anyone thinks, we are "matriculating the ball down the field" (Hank Stram, KC Chiefs)
Todd Akin= Capt. Ahab.
<>he stole attention away from the main argument for this election, and that is FREEDOM.<>
Yeh like this FREEDOM that was taken away by the heavy handedness of the Romney forces in Tampa.
Surrounded by idiots that capitulate to false narratives from the lefty spin and the party of Molech is more accurate.
As someone stated earlier, it takes a bit of an IQ to understand the nuance of what Akin was reffering. That is where he most likely misjudged by overestimating the public. Notice that the interviewer Jaco did not halt the interview in amazed astonishment for clarification.
To state that Akin doesn’t understand ‘basic biology’ is absurd and false. It required a much deeper understanding than the intellectually lazy possess because the facts he was referring go beyond a basic biology and unfortunately he has been unjustly scorned by the panicking party of highbrow that worry of style over substance, appearances over truth and stand for nothing but the party’s popularity and power, irrespective of integrity.
Your entire assessment of the Akin’s truth and basic disagreement with him implies lack of intellect. However, ad hominem is the last resort of someone with no real counter-argument.
Now if he had designed it that way, we may be saying, "what a great politician". But since, by every measure, he merely stumbled and flipped the bench that threw the bucket, that hit the cat and made him jump, that scared the old maid, that dropped her cain, that hit the cow and made her kick, that kicked the wall, that knocked the kerosene lantern onto the floor, that broke and lit the house on fire, that burned down Chicago... ya, you'd ask that guy to leave.
Akin isn’t a victim of anything other than a self inflicted wound. The victims here are the voters of the state of Missouri. Between Akin, the NRSC and other such entities, and every one on our side that keeps picking at the open sore, it is an unnecessary uphill struggle for us.
Todd Akin took a setup question and fumbled it at the 1 yard line.
The tea party is like any other other party, it is not homogeneous on all things. It came together to thwart the big threat against all freedoms, Barbra Obama. On smaller issues we will differ. Let there be a battle for the control of the Republican party... it can only be good. At least we still have to freedom to pursue such things. Romney is all we got. Remember how Bush tried to push through Immigration reform, basically amnesty, we stopped him cold. Get Romney elected, then we can proceed to have the fights that need to be have. This whole thing with delegates is stupid anyway... why have a candidate with delegates who don’t support him, if the whole reason for having an election is to beat the other party’s candidate.
And Jaco who is not a friend of conservatives who is always ready to pounce on anything a conservative says hardly missed a beat when he made his statement.
Political scientists and PR specialists who know Missouri were saying the next day that what he expressed is the standard prolife belief and position in the state of Missouri. Everybody in Missouri knows that.
What they also now know is that this whole kerfuffle was contrived to get rid of Akin and the people of Missouri don't like it when it is outsiders who do the contriving.
“Research shows that extreme stress can interfere with or disrupt normal ovulation for women. Stress can suppress the hormones that are needed for ovulation to occur, making ovulation come later on in a womans cycle or, rarely, causing her to miss ovulating at all during a cycle.”
"Real leaders dont follow polls. Real leaders change polls.. - Chris Christie
Christie was thinking about Akin last night. Akin is a fighter, a real leader.
“Not only did Akin attempt to sensitively answer the delicate question about allowing abortion in cases of rape or incest, and not only did he thoroughly answer the question, but above all he probably had the science right.”
Iteresting that these are a couple of the “biological scientists” being used as the authority with their Gottschall study.
Jonathan Gottschall received his Ph.D. in English from Binghamton University and now teaches at St. Lawrence University in Canton, New York. His research focuses on bringing a Darwinian perspective to literary analysis and his publications include articles placing events in the Homeric epics, including rape, in evolutionary context. Tiffani Gottschall received her Ph.D. in Economics from Binghamton University and now teaches at St. Lawrence University. Her research focuses on explaining fertility differentials between American Indians and other American demographic groups.
Hardly — it was the 45 yardline and if players are traded for things like that the stadiums would be empty on Sunday.
If I were a Missouri resident, I would have to vote for the guy because of who he is running against. That said, he’s still a loser in my book.
If he wins will he still be a loser in your book???
I have lived all my life in Missouri. The first time I ever heard/read the phrase 'legitimate rape' came that night when the Akin interview got posted. AND I had never heard before that a woman's body could prevent a pregnancy due to stress released hormones.
I'm pro-life and I have as much opposition to abortion being used as birth control as I do to Oromney care, wherein a advisory counsel determines IF old American grandmothers should get a 'pill instead of a procedure'. Life is not one single issue of requiring a full term pregnancy wherein a baby sucks in its first breath.
You nor Akin speak for the majority of Missourians when it comes to being 'pro-life'. And by your own words Akin was not forcibly placed in front of Jaco. AND all political scientists and PR specialists know that for any candidate in a state wide election to win they must get those Frank Luntz 'independents'.
I thought we may be able to defend the guy until I heard him on Hannity’s radio show.
“Everybody in Missouri knows that”
You seem to have fashioned yourself the expert here lately on what Missourians think.
For the record, you don’t speak for me.
So then is your prolife position closer to Mitt Romney's???
I'm every bit as pro-life as Akin. Oromey 'care' tells me all I need to know about Romney's position. I resent more than anything watching that sly like a fox, crazy Claire being 'gift' wrapped FREE media time to call a Republican candidate for Senate ignorant.
Akin's choice of words, which he apologized for using is what started this. Christ said to be harmless as a dove, but wiser than the serpent.... You already stated that Jaco is a liberal. Why NOT win the seat first then do something?
Reality is really hard for some people to deal with.
I cannot disagree that his answer should have been more discrete. But the calls for him to step down should have then come from his local party associates not the Romney/Danforth wing of the party that back in March made it clear that Akin, Brunner, and Steelman were not their choices and tried to slip their own candidate into the race. The local party could have handled this thing better.
These studies you cite don’t remotely prove the point you are trying to project, and the fact you continue to do so shows just as much basic biological ignorance as Akin provided.
Studies that have shown high cortisol (stress hormone) levels have higher risk of miscarriage ARE NOT REMOTELY PROOF RAPE DOESN’T GET YOU PREGNANT! Cortisol is a stress hormone, and guess what, PREGNANCY in an of itself raises cortisol levels, pregnancy itself causes stress. The fact that women who have higher cortisol levels during pregnancy appeared in an incredibly small study to have higher miscarriages does not allow you to remotely supposition that the trauma of rape means less likelyhood of pregnancy that consentual sex.
Studies have also shown stress can be a contributing factor to conception problems, however those studies were conducted on women who desired to conceive were having regular and frequent consentual sex, and having problems. And no, the stress wasn’t concluded to be THE factor, most had other issues, but stress was concluded to be a contributing factor, not a main factor. And since these studies were done on women who were having regular, frequent consentual sex, and desired very great to become pregnant trying to extrapolate the results must transfer directly to a woman who has been raped is nonsense.
In that study there is no evidence the higher cortisol levels were created by external factors of any sort, if there is a problem with the pregnancy, or child, this would in create greater stress and higher cortisol and also (not suprisingly) increase the incident of miscarriage.
Citing of this study as proof that Akin’s ignornat coments are backed by sciense is just like the claims idiots use that higher levels of carbon dioxide are a cause of global warming, when in fact they are an EFFECT of warmer temperatures, not a cause.
There is no proof, ZERO, that being raped has a lower incident of pregnancy than consentual sex, and its beyond ignorant to try to argue there is.
Claiming that a raped woman is statistically less likely to become pregnant than a woman who has consentual sex is NOT remotely backed up by any study, science or otherwise, and those 70s studies that made that claim were debunked decades ago.
The statistical odds of a woman getting pregnant from a 1 time sex act, whether consentual or non consentual are the same, the very low single digits. PERIOD. There is no magical uterus, there is no womans body can shut it down.. its all nonsense, and wholey moronic.
Human history is filled with the offspring of rape, its been used as a weapon of war throughout history, not just for the physical act, but for the offspring and demoralization that they can create among a conquered people. Akin’s claim was WHOLEY ignorant, and he’s not a victim of simple flub, he showed that he is just completely ignornant of basic biology.
I have no issue Akin doesn’t believe in a rape exception in an abortion ban, that doesn’t bother me at all. What makes Akin unacceptable is not that he doesn’t believe in abortion for rape victims, that’s a simple enough stand to articulate and logic to follow... don’t punish the child for the parents crime.. very simple and hardly extreme. That’s not why Akin is a dead man walking, he’s a dead man walking because he honestly believed something that was embarrassingly idiotic, factually wrong and was arguing a policy position from it.
Akin shot himself, stop blaming everyone else for his stupidity.
You nailed it. Unfortunately, I am a Missouri voter and will vote for Akin because I cannot vote for AirClaire and leaving it blank constitutes voting for her in my opinion. That being said, under no circumstances, whether by recommendation, time-wise or monetarily, will I support that asshat. He gets my vote, my contempt and nothing else. Anything else would go to other Republican candidates in Missouri (Romney on down to local) or Senate candidates in other states (Josh Mandel in Ohio, for example).
But the GOP -e- is what it is? They really are NOT opposed to Obama methodology, they just want to be in control of where our tax dollars go. That cry baby Boener said as much, called those opposed to Romney steering the bloated ship as knuckledraggers....
I want Claire defeated, that is my 'pro-life' position.
Right now the people in Missouri who believe in the ABCs [Anyone But Claire] are watching her Leftwaffe control the airwaves. The GOPe can put an end to that. What will they do???
“You nor Akin speak for the majority of Missourians when it comes to being ‘pro-life’.”
Please name who does and then tell us all why the only abortion clinics in the state of Missouri are over in Illinois and Kansas.
That's not what he said.
What he said (OK, not very clearly) was that in "legitimate" rape situations (we're talking "forcible") the woman's body can go into a subfertile "defensive" mode.
Which, awkward though it is, has the advantage of being true: anxiety and stress negatively impact fertility; fear and rage spike adrenalin. An adrenalin spike -- especially at the right phase just before ovulation --- can derail or at least delay ovulation.
It doesn't always happen, and (as with everything fertility-related) timing is everything. And it was dumb --- it showed regrettable unpreparedness ---for Akin to fumble into a vague remark about rare instances of physiological function that would later require paragraphs or pages of walkback and explanation.
However, it should "count" that Akin was actually right (that still counts, doesn't it? Isn't truth still a defense?); and it is crazy that one verbal ankle-turn causes the whole GOP apparat to turn on him with knife-blades quick and long.