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Fresno County Woman Stops Kidnapping By Pulling Gun on Home Intruder
ksee24.com ^ | 28 August, 2012 | NA

Posted on 08/29/2012 6:26:34 AM PDT by marktwain

Fresno County sheriff's deputies are looking for a man in connection to a burglary and attempted kidnapping.

It happened just after 8:30 a.m. Tuesday at a home on Maple between South and Manning. Deputies say a woman and her two-year old daughter heard a window break in the back of her home. They saw a man in his 20's, who then broke in, stole some merchandise and tried to kidnap the child.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglists; ca; defense; kidnapping
In California, this woman would almost certainly be denied a carry permit to protect her child in public places.
1 posted on 08/29/2012 6:26:36 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

But, but guns are bad!


2 posted on 08/29/2012 6:31:34 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

what a tragic ending, he got away without any lead...


3 posted on 08/29/2012 6:37:03 AM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: marktwain

I live in California, have children and precious pets to protect — and know how to fire a handgun and rifle — well.

There would have been nothing to arrest if he’d broken into my home and tried to kidnap my daughter!!

This mother would have screamed all over the place - “He said he was going to rape and kill me and my daughter!!!”

(do you think that would have worked? This IS California, after all!!).


4 posted on 08/29/2012 6:37:11 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (The Road to Ruin is Always Kept in Good Repair)
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To: VAFreedom
what a tragic ending, he got away without any lead...

It's her call.
5 posted on 08/29/2012 6:46:57 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to watch you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: marktwain
stole some merchandise

What's with this, was it for sale?

Who writes this stuff?

6 posted on 08/29/2012 6:47:02 AM PDT by super7man
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To: Bon of Babble

I think that would work even in Calif.

I suggest you upgrade your pets to ones that protect you.


7 posted on 08/29/2012 6:48:55 AM PDT by super7man
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To: marktwain

Look, for all of its faults, there are large swaths of CA that are sane and reasonable.

I believe you’re thinking of douche bags like the LA County Sheriff, a pure political hack who only issues permits to the well connected and celebrity.

The rural county Sheriffs are pretty good at issuing permits. From what I know, my Sheriff in Kern County doesn’t have any problems with them. If I recall correctly, a gun safety course, the CCW course, pay the tribute and she’s done.

Now that she’s had this incident, it should be even easier because she’s unfortunately, been the victim of a crime.


8 posted on 08/29/2012 6:57:53 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Bon of Babble

“I was in fear for my (our) life, I’d like to speak to an attorney.”

Don’t say anything else.


9 posted on 08/29/2012 6:59:49 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian
I lived in California for seven years and loved it. One of my favorite trips was driving up the coast from Los Angeles to Carmel. The scenery was beautiful and it was fascinating to meet Californians in small towns along the way. People shouldn't judge the state only on Hollywood crackpots and San Francisco limousine liberals.
10 posted on 08/29/2012 7:18:13 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: super7man

Lib reporters can’t call it property because that may conjure ‘property rights’ in the mind of the reader. Better to refer to the victm’s belongings as merchandise implying the criminal had rights to it also.

Was it Pelosi who stated that working Americans’ paychecks should be deposited directly in the Federal coffers and then they would decide how much we should get? That really is how they think it should be.


11 posted on 08/29/2012 7:59:23 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: SZonian

You might like this:

http://www.californiaconcealedcarry.com/counties/countiesmap.html


12 posted on 08/29/2012 8:07:59 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: utahagen
People shouldn't judge the state only on Hollywood crackpots and San Francisco limousine liberals.

I guess that tiny number of scoundrels and fools is why 0bama only won 61% of the California vote in 2008?

13 posted on 08/29/2012 8:11:01 AM PDT by Gritty (A hundred million people want Obama in power because he's 'their' crook-Daniel Greenfield)
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To: anonsquared

Thanks and bookmarked.

I didn’t realize Fresno had turned to “may issue”. So I must modify my original contention with regards to the victim of this crime.

It’s a toss up at best that she will get a CCW.

Regards,
SZ


14 posted on 08/29/2012 8:32:12 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Gritty
The problem with California is that too many people are on the dole — or some form of it. The very rich pensions are golden handcuffs that link the recipients to the Democrats. But the 39% that didn't vote for Obama tend to be very conservative Republicans, rather then moderates. I was stunned when I attended a meeting at of Beverly Hills Republicans and the NRA was discussed — positively! Coming from NYC, I am not used to even conservative republicans touching the gun issue.
15 posted on 08/29/2012 8:34:58 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: marktwain

I hate to be too hard on the woman but there is no excuse for not putting some lead into the SOB.

Once they are in your home and they intend to do harm they are yours.


16 posted on 08/29/2012 8:46:23 AM PDT by soycd
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To: anonsquared; super7man
I too wondered at the word “merchandise”. What? Did she live in a store?

You nailed it a’squared. They are desperate to destroy the very concept of property rights!

17 posted on 08/29/2012 9:03:56 AM PDT by Sal (STAND YOUR GROUND laws are the prosecutor's target--GZ is collateral damage.)
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To: marktwain

My sister lives within sight of this crime and emailed me about it less then a hour after it happened. That stretch of Maple is small vineyards. A FRiend here in Eureka had his house and garage broken into over the weekend while he was out of town. They took several thousand dollars of equipment and personal items.


18 posted on 08/29/2012 9:04:42 AM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: Bon of Babble

In CA, and yes I live here also, you are certainly allowed to shoot someone who breaks into your home. Just make sure they are inside and drop them in their tracks. Outside is not allowed unless they are actually holding a gun on you and then that is not always a certainty.


19 posted on 08/29/2012 12:12:23 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
you are certainly allowed to shoot someone who breaks into your home.

True in Fresno County but that action carries sever personal consequences. To avoid these consequences you must.

1) Be inside the house when the break-in occurs
2) Be reasonably certain1 that the intruder was armed with a deadly2 weapon at the time of the entry.

Breach these rules and you'll end up incarcerated or, if the intruder survives, loss of your premises through civil action.

1 The weapon must be in the intruder's possession when law enforcement arrives
2 A gun or a knife is a deadly weapon. A golf club or baseball bat is not. Best if the intruders finger prints are on the gun or the knife.

20 posted on 08/29/2012 4:17:22 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

I’m sorry but in the bulk of CA the intruder doesn’t have to be armed. I’ve lived here since I was 3 years old, I am now 70 and I am also a hunter and I shoot regularly at our local range. I’ve probably forgotten more about firearms and firearm laws as they exist in CA than most people know. All that is required for self defense claim is that the intruder breaks into your house and you shoot him/her while they are in the house. Fists count as a deadly weapon in most counties, let alone a baseball bat or club.


21 posted on 08/29/2012 4:48:54 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
It gets worse.

If the occupants of the house had access to a "safe" exit at the time of the entry/confrontation, didn't utilize it, but preferring instead, continued confrontation and use of lethal force, trouble could be brewing.

If the alleged home invader suffers a fatal, gunshot, entry wound to his back side, the responsibility is yours to prove he was not in voluntary flight.

Again, to preclude the possibility of civil action against the legal system, the only free ticket for you and yours in almost all California counties is:

1) The perp dead inside your home.
2) The fatal entry wound is on the front side of the perp's body.
3) The perp is still clutching a deadly weapon when the first responders arrive.

If there's doubt, call the offices of Elizabeth Egan at 559.600.3141.

22 posted on 08/29/2012 5:23:09 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: marktwain

Heaven bless her!

Glad this story is getting some legs....a cop woulda have just been only minutes away.


23 posted on 08/30/2012 11:30:53 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: marktwain
Here's a story [Daily Mail] about a Chicago dad who chased a kidnapper through the streets for a half-hour, to save his daughter.

Hero dad! I can hardly believe this story has no gun violence. [Yea! for a change]

24 posted on 08/30/2012 12:21:52 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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