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Romney's "RNC Power Grab": What Really Happened (Freedom-Works chimes in)
FreedomWorks ^ | 8/29/2012 | Dean Clancy

Posted on 08/29/2012 12:55:52 PM PDT by Kolath

The noes clearly had it, but the party bosses gaveled the dissenters down, shutting off the microphones and ignoring cries of "Roll call! Roll call!"

Yesterday, the Republican National Committee in Tampa adopted some rules changes that shift power from the state parties and the grassroots to the RNC and the GOP presidential nominee. Former Governor John Sununu of New Hampshire touted the new rules as providing “a strong governing framework” for the party over the next four years. But in fact the the new rules should be very troubling and disappointing to conservative grassroots activists, because they move the national Republican Party away from being a decentralized, bottom-up party toward becoming a centralized, top-down party.

The Romney rules effectively disenfranchise grassroots delegates, and will thus tend to weaken and splinter the party over time. They specifically represent a blow to the Tea Party and the Ron Paul movement, and force grassroots conservatives of all stripes to contemplate their future within the GOP.

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The proposed changes would do two main things:

1. Amend existing Rule 12 to hand national party officials, for the first time, the power to change the party's rules between national conventions, which take place every fourth year. Three-fourths of RNC members must approve a proposed change for it to take effect. This is unprecedented. It would enable top GOP officials to circumvent rules adopted by state and grassroots leaders at the National Convention. One can imagine how it might be used to shape and control the delegate-selection process to the advantage of insiders and special interests.

2. Amend existing Rule 15 to allow the presumptive presidential nominee to “disavow” duly elected delegates and force state parties to hold new elections to replace any delegate or alternate deemed unacceptable by the presumptive presidential nominee. One can imagine the influence this change would give a presumptive nominee over any delegate that doesn’t toe the line. He could, in effect, choose the people who are to choose him. It’s not hard to imagine the temptation a campaign would feel to use this power to intimidate delegates and to reward friends, supporters, and campaign contributors. The proposal also contained a provision altering the method of allocating delegates, in order to front-load and shorten the primary calendar.

Unfortunately, the proposed change to Rule 12 passed. Thankfully, the proposed changes to Rule 15 were stopped. But an “insiders’ compromise” version of the “disavowal” provision did pass.

1 posted on 08/29/2012 12:55:55 PM PDT by Kolath
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What does Romney’s RNC power grab mean for the future? At least three things:

Conclusions from FW.

1) As of today, the GOP is now much less representative of state parties and voters than it was yesterday, and thus more representative of whichever interests are smart and powerful enough to dominate the RNC.

2) Grassroots activists will now have to add “Monitoring the RNC” to their “eternal vigilance” list.

3) FreedomWorks will have to add “Influencing — and when necessary, fighting — the RNC” to our “Hostile Takeover” strategy.


2 posted on 08/29/2012 12:57:36 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Kolath

“engineering of consent”


3 posted on 08/29/2012 1:04:53 PM PDT by Lysander (Paul or not at all.)
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dirty tricks that were employed

1. Florida activist Laura Noble informed us that both of Florida’s Rules Committee members, Peter Feaman and Kathleen King, were removed from the Rules Committee and replaced with Romney-appointed delegates.

2. Some Rules Committee members were physically barred from entering the room, despite having proper credentials.

3. Some delegates were told that Blackwell was trying to use the situation as an excuse to reopen a settled debate that he had lost four years ago regarding Rule 12. Not true.

4. Some delegates were told Romney personally knew nothing of the matter and it was just his overly aggressive lawyers acting beyond their authority and there was nothing to worry about, he would put a stop to it once he found out what was happening.

5. Some delegates seem to have believed that the rules fight was really just a proxy fight in the larger battle being waged between the Romney and Ron Paul camps over who would represent certain states on the convention floor. This assumption may have discouraged some Rules Committee members from supporting the minority reports.


4 posted on 08/29/2012 1:05:28 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Kolath
I think events in Michigan are part of what drove the GOP to do this crap. One of the guys who voted in the middle of the night (Saul Anuzis) to change the Romney tie into a win was voted off the national committee just a few weeks later.

We won

Conservatives working in unison at the State Republican Convention sent a message to the establishment loud and clear: "It's our turn!"...No more `business as usual' politics orchestrated to appease the political masses with hollow claims of conservatism and principles each election cycle, only to disappear into the maze of lobbyists and special interests in the interim...This time, the false claims of an election year cycle fell on deaf ears, conservatism ruled the day...Libertarians, Tea Partiers, and true Republican conservatives unified in one of the most sweeping upsets of the incumbent power brokers I have seen in my lifetime...they have sent both the State and National GOP a clear ultimatum...This time we will not be silent, nor ignored, nor brushed aside.


5 posted on 08/29/2012 1:06:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kolath

Well it does in fact give a “strong governing framework” for the party over the next four years. Any authoritarian need powers such as these. Vote individuals after being very skeptical of what they promise. The only reason I’ll vote this time is to support Art Robinson over Pete DeFazio for congress - likely a lost cause.


6 posted on 08/29/2012 1:07:03 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Kolath

Romney lost my vote with this. We don’t need another dictator to replace the one we have. We need more grassroots not more big government bureaucracy.


7 posted on 08/29/2012 1:10:13 PM PDT by Zack Attack
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First Obama, then THIRD PARTY!!


8 posted on 08/29/2012 1:13:15 PM PDT by Jenny217
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To: Kolath

6. The driver for the Virginia delegation got “lost” and drove them around until it was too late for the vote. Both members were against the rule changes.


9 posted on 08/29/2012 1:14:05 PM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: Kolath

So much for changing the GOP at the local level. Face it, the PUBs are an elephant in its death throe. What more will it take for Conservatives to get the message that we are not wanted?

Mark this date, August 29,2012 and this statement: “The GOP has no intention of beating 0bambi and Romney will find a way to throw the election.”


10 posted on 08/29/2012 1:14:34 PM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Kolath

There are silver linings no one seems to pay attention to. This MIGHT stop the individual states from moving their primaries into ‘me first’ dates that screw up ALL the primaries, not to mention states losing their full slate of delegates. It might also change some of the ‘open’ primaries where dem crossovers choose who wins. Maybe we will not see again what happened in Virginia this year.
MAYBE it isn’t as bad as you think.


11 posted on 08/29/2012 1:15:42 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Kolath
I read earlier that some delegates were instructed to chant "USA...USA" during any roll call on this to drown out (no pun intended) the nos votes....

so make that:

6. As above

12 posted on 08/29/2012 1:16:21 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Kolath

Myth RomneyCARE has made the GOP the ultimate
party of dirty tricks (against conservatives)
and DEATH PANELS.

Those who KNEW Mr. RomneyCARE WARNED you all about this.


13 posted on 08/29/2012 1:20:02 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Kolath

Demonstrates a real top-down, authoritarian streak in the RNC leadership, which I find repugnant. Like they regard the grassroots as ignorant rabble. The whole condescending attitude also totally goes against the government philosophy of federalism and small-government, which works best the closer it is to the people. Not dictated from above by our ruling-class “betters.” The whole GOP seems to have lost its bearings, and is morphing into a replica of the Dems.


14 posted on 08/29/2012 1:21:54 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Kolath
No vote for Mitt from me and mine.

15 posted on 08/29/2012 1:28:31 PM PDT by Mormon Cricket
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To: Kolath

This will come back to bite them in their oh-so-clever-by-half asses.

If a populist conservative speaking candidate does manage to garner enough primary votes in a future election cycle, he or SHE will be UNSTOPPABLE and they will cry and wail and gnash their teeth with no one to blame but themselves...........


16 posted on 08/29/2012 1:35:40 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: Kolath

From the article:

“4. Some delegates were told Romney personally knew nothing of the matter and it was just his overly aggressive lawyers acting beyond their authority and there was nothing to worry about, he would put a stop to it once he found out what was happening. “

I’ve said this before, lots of stuff seems to happen around Mitt without him having anything to do with it.


17 posted on 08/29/2012 1:36:10 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: NTHockey
Mark this date, August 29,2012 and this statement: “The GOP has no intention of beating 0bambi and Romney will find a way to throw the election.”

I've been saying all along. They want to leave either the senate or white house in democrat hands.

Vast changes need to be made in America and the party that does so will probably tear itself apart in the process. Instead they'd rather play games of making tiny adjustments and tiny cuts. The best way to avoid blame it to make sure there's some opposition.

Just look at governors on both sides of the aisle and their preparations for Obamacae, its pretty obvious they don't expect it to be repealed.
18 posted on 08/29/2012 1:36:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kolath

I will not be voting for Romney. I would vote 3rd party but not Republican.
A few elite want to run things their way so good luck to them.


19 posted on 08/29/2012 1:36:38 PM PDT by Ramonne
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To: Kolath

I will not be voting for Romney. I would vote 3rd party but not Republican.
A few elite want to run things their way so good luck to them.


20 posted on 08/29/2012 1:36:46 PM PDT by Ramonne
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To: Lysander

“engineering of consent”

Are you familiar with Edward bernays? He was a master of this.


21 posted on 08/29/2012 1:37:24 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Kolath

BFLR


22 posted on 08/29/2012 1:38:30 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Jenny217
"First Obama, then THIRD PARTY!!"

Third party NOW!!! There is no point in replacing Obama with a GOP labeled Obama.

23 posted on 08/29/2012 1:39:34 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Kolath

bump


24 posted on 08/29/2012 1:41:07 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Kolath

Centralization of power is anathema to conservatism, hence is favored by the GOPe.


25 posted on 08/29/2012 1:44:30 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Kolath

Tyranny by any other name is still tyranny


26 posted on 08/29/2012 1:48:21 PM PDT by EBH (Courage, Trust, Sacred Honor, Truth, Freedom)
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To: Bigtigermike; JediJones

(((((PING)))))


27 posted on 08/29/2012 1:50:38 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: MestaMachine

Well then let’s just get rid of the Bill of Rights... things might just get better.

LLS


28 posted on 08/29/2012 1:58:12 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (If romney is our only chance... we have less of a chance than a Massachusetts fetus.)
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To: DannyTN

You have to slow the train down first before you can stop it.

Obama now and then we go after the congressman and senators to control Romney.


29 posted on 08/29/2012 2:06:23 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: phockthis

Mr. RomneyCARE’s “knives” in the backs of conservatives
and their children will NOT be forgotten.
Mr. RomneyCARE may play stupid, but WE are not.


30 posted on 08/29/2012 2:11:56 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Don’t mind me. I try to find silver linings everywhere. Doesn’t mean it will happen, but I can dream, can’t I?


31 posted on 08/29/2012 2:13:44 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Mormon Cricket

brilliant photo ... brilliant !!!!!!!!!


32 posted on 08/29/2012 2:15:24 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin will DEFEAT the Obama-Romney Socialist Gay-Marriage Axis of Evil)
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To: phockthis

You realize nothing they changed has anything to do with defeating Obama. When do you imagine they will get around to doing that? They seem to have so much more fun fighting conservatives.


33 posted on 08/29/2012 2:24:16 PM PDT by Waryone (Definition of idiocy: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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new party here I come


34 posted on 08/29/2012 2:29:50 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Diogenesis; Waryone

I never said I trust Romney, I only believe the he will respect the rule of law more than Obumble’s will and will be easier to control


35 posted on 08/29/2012 2:43:54 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: phockthis

Mr. RomneyCARE overruled the Mass Constitution
to install RomneyMarriage (gay marriage).

Do you understand that? Do you care?
Apparently NOT.


36 posted on 08/29/2012 2:46:25 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: phockthis

After his people pull a stunt like this, and all we know about what Romney did to usher in gay marriage by executive order, you still imagine he respects the rule of law?

Well if you call his clown posse with fake the badges who pretended to be cops “the rule of law,” then perhaps you would be correct.


37 posted on 08/29/2012 3:15:29 PM PDT by Waryone (Definition of idiocy: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: MestaMachine
Absolutely!
38 posted on 08/29/2012 3:43:41 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (If romney is our only chance... we have less of a chance than a Massachusetts fetus.)
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To: Zack Attack
Romney lost my vote with this.

If this is all it took, he never had your vote. Be another Pontius Pilate voter. Go vote for Obama, err "Virgil Goode."

39 posted on 08/29/2012 3:59:40 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 69 days away.)
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To: newzjunkey

Voting tha partyline has gotten us where exactly? Say...in the last 3 decades?


40 posted on 08/29/2012 4:57:50 PM PDT by EBH (Courage, Trust, Sacred Honor, Truth, Freedom)
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To: DBrow

“I’ve said this before, lots of stuff seems to happen around Mitt without him having anything to do with it.”

He is the nominee and can change any wrongdoing. The buck stops at the top!!


41 posted on 08/29/2012 5:31:47 PM PDT by doc
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To: Diogenesis; Waryone

Well I’m f-—ing smart enough to know if you don’t get this piece of chit out of the white hut first, it won’t matter WTF Romney has done.

DO YOU GET THAT...


42 posted on 08/29/2012 5:37:01 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: doc

“He is the nominee and can change any wrongdoing.”

Ping me when he reverses Rule 12 and Rule 16, k?


43 posted on 08/29/2012 5:55:27 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: phockthis

I haven’t questioned your ability to think. I questioned your belief that Romney can be trusted to respect the law.

From his past history, he has ruled by executive order just as Obama has. This whole power grab of his is a case in point. Given the large number of voices in dissent, the Speaker should have called for a vote. But, these people completely ignored the fact that there was any dissent to this rule and they had Boehner “deem” the rule change as passed by unanimous consent.

I understand that you want Obama out of there. I want Obama out of there, the difference between us is that I am not willing to allow the socialists in the republican party to take away my freedoms at their “promise” to get rid of Obama. They are notoriously bad at keeping promises and it seems they would rather fight conservatives than the democrats.

ABO types say that we have to fight together to get rid of Obama. The GOP-e shows it has no desire to fight together. Instead, they pull off a blatant coup. These socialists think that conservatives are more of an enemy than Obama is.

Your need to be rid of Obama supersedes your love of your freedoms. So that is a trade you are willing to make.


44 posted on 08/29/2012 6:21:50 PM PDT by Waryone (Definition of idiocy: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: Kolath

No surprise here our rulers do not want grass roots movement like the Tea Party or the Paulists to gain any power within the GOP. So they are shutting them out. What is surprising is that anyone other then kool aid drinking GOPers are even contemplating voting for the Palin hating anti conservative Rove-Romney gang. That is truly mind boggling. If you are conservative, make your vote count and vote 3rd party at the top.


45 posted on 08/29/2012 6:40:14 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Waryone

I don’t understand why people can’t hear mccain, Jeb Bush, Sununu, boner, McConnell and all the other gopE. They’re not conservative. They just want to hold the office for all the perks. They don’t care anymore about this country that Pelosi and Reid.


46 posted on 08/29/2012 6:41:22 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Terry Mross

that is exactly correct. I have read that a large percentage of the voting public is conservative. what would happen if all those votes went to someone other then the Obama/Romney team? make your vote count vote 3rd party at the top.


47 posted on 08/29/2012 6:50:36 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: MestaMachine

MAYBE ? If that’s the best you can come up with the country is screwed big time .


48 posted on 08/29/2012 7:37:41 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Kolath
What does Romney’s RNC power grab mean for the future? At least three things:

To me, it means they think Conservatives are a danger to the RINOs and so they are going to do what they can to start making sure that Conservatives are shut out at all levels.

It also means they think they can win elections without Conservatives.

Honestly, this is something I expect Obama and his cronies to do within the DNC against certain DNC segments, not the Republicans in the GOP.

Mitt and his RINO pals just keep giving me reasons not to support the GOP.
49 posted on 08/29/2012 8:39:47 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Jenny217
First Obama, then THIRD PARTY!!

The people who are involved with a lot of these maneuverings are the same people Romney would bring with him to the White House if he somehow won.
50 posted on 08/29/2012 8:53:48 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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