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GOP glad to rid themselves of Ron Paul supporters, the move to Libertarian Party
Examiner.com ^ | 8/29/2012 | Karl Dickey

Posted on 08/29/2012 4:25:03 PM PDT by fromscratchmom

Yesterday the Republican Party elected Mitt Romney as their presidential nominee at their national convention happening this week in Tampa, Florida to face Libertarian Party presidential nominee Gary Johnson and expected Democratic Party presidential nominee Barack Obama in the November 6, 2012 general election. Voting delegates at the convention voted for Romney by a landslide and Ron Paul received a significant number of votes and to a much lesser extent, other Republicans who had dropped or suspended their campaigns.

(read more at the original site.) Before yesterday's nomination process began, Republican Party chairman, Reince Priebus was calling Mitt Romney the nominee facing Barack Obama ignoring the fact he had not yet been elected to be the Republican Party's nominee. Other Republican Party officials did the same before a vote had been cast. Rather than be impartial, as most feel they should be, these Republican Party officials clearly had, and publicly voiced, bias against other nominees in favor of Mitt Romney.

Ron Paul delegates were the most vocal on the convention floor during the nomination process even shouting "Ron Paul" over other Republicans shouting "USA." Eventually Ron Paul supporters walked off the convention floor in protest. By all measures the Republican Party completely disrespected Ron Paul and his supporters.

Ron Paul and his supporters have been a thorn in the side of the Republican Party since before Paul ran for president in 2008 and as Paul's support around the country grew over the last four years to millions of Americans, the thorn was festering within the GOP. The GOP has been at the brunt of many Ron Paul verbal confrontations as Paul exposes the many instances elected Republicans vote against the Republican Party platform and tagline of smaller government. Paul will be highly critical of ...

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: convention; libertarian; rnc; ronpaul
Perhaps they are glad, as the author asserts. Even if so, what they don't know is that they have moved against and insulted every grassroots activist, every non-joiner", every independent thinker that has typically voted for them but has been growing weary over time. I don't think they have any idea what they have done. And now that they have finally pushed me over the edge, I hope they don't wake up and smell the coffee until it is too late.
1 posted on 08/29/2012 4:25:08 PM PDT by fromscratchmom
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To: fromscratchmom

Most of them were only using the Republican party because there is more donations and media attention.


2 posted on 08/29/2012 4:26:21 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: fromscratchmom

Why does it have to just be “Ron Paul supporters”? Doesn’t anyone else but them care about the Constitution and liberty?


3 posted on 08/29/2012 4:26:55 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Science puts you on the moon, atheism puts you in the gulag)
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To: fromscratchmom

Mr. RomneyCARE has disenfranchised the TEA PARTY
and conservatives. This is an attempt to rewrite
history (a Romney specialty).


4 posted on 08/29/2012 4:28:28 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: fromscratchmom

“Where else you gonna’ go?” Isn’t that what the democrat party says? And now it’s what the republican party says.


5 posted on 08/29/2012 4:31:39 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: fromscratchmom

The GOP is using Paul as cover to dump conservatives.


6 posted on 08/29/2012 4:31:46 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: fromscratchmom

Yes, good. Ron Paul supporters were never going to vote for the GOP nominee unless it was Paul (which it had zero chance of being). They hate Romney, but they also detest social conservatives with a passion. Ron Paul brings nothing to the Republican party. The vast majority of his drug addled, conspiracy monger supporters are going to end up voting for Obama or the Libertarian candidate - that is if they can find time to put the bong down.


7 posted on 08/29/2012 4:31:46 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: fromscratchmom

The rule change fiasco yesterday had little to nothing to do with Ron Paul. It had everything to do with a power-grab. It was just another example of the Elites being Elites. They can’t have the little people thinking they have a say in their Republic.

The GOP lost me years ago, and after last night, I won’t be rushing to vote for them.


8 posted on 08/29/2012 4:31:54 PM PDT by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: fromscratchmom

I don’t like saying this, but at this point in time, Romney/Ryan is our best hope.

I like Ryan, but don’t think very much of Mitt.


9 posted on 08/29/2012 4:33:11 PM PDT by sauropod (Only two of God's creatures can employ the term "we": newspaper editors and men with tapeworms-Hayes)
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To: Sporke

The people claiming its about Ron Paul voters are morons with their heads stuck so far up Mitt’s butt that they have to back up to take a dump.


10 posted on 08/29/2012 4:35:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Yashcheritsiy
Doesn’t anyone else but them care about the Constitution and liberty?

No! We have to wait another hundred years because, well see, it's a strategic retreat...and...and...we're going to hold feet to the fire. You just wait and see. Not this time, it's too important. And not next time - same reason. But soon! Just keep surrendering for now.

11 posted on 08/29/2012 4:37:31 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (You ain't holding anybody's feet to the fire ya lousy limp noodle.)
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To: fromscratchmom

most were only using he party to sget their their message.

The way the paul suporters were acting just before the kick off and shouting was classless and idioti


12 posted on 08/29/2012 4:39:17 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: cripplecreek

utter crap yet again.


13 posted on 08/29/2012 4:40:22 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: DEADROCK

“The GOP is using Paul as cover to dump conservatives.”

Yep. Very Stalinist. Ron Paul is the Geriatric Old Plotters’ straw man analog to Trotsky. Heh. We are all Trotskyite wreckers and saboteurs now.


14 posted on 08/29/2012 4:45:41 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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Paul is an equal opportunity whack job. His support going elsewhere hurts Obama at least as much as Romney.


15 posted on 08/29/2012 4:47:46 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: DEADROCK

“The GOP is using Paul as cover to dump conservatives.”

Paul is using the GOP as a platform for his nutty ideas since the Libertarian party can’t get any traction.


16 posted on 08/29/2012 4:49:35 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: fromscratchmom
Ron Paul and his supporters have been a thorn...that was festering within the GOP

Apt metaphor for the Paul disease vectors.

17 posted on 08/29/2012 4:50:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: sauropod

“I don’t like saying this, but at this point in time, Romney/Ryan is our best hope.”

What we have with BO is America’s fast track vs. Romney’s torturous path of slow destruction. As Rush stated the elited Republicans are pro amnesty which will be the nail in America’s coffin.


18 posted on 08/29/2012 4:52:05 PM PDT by doc
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To: fromscratchmom
Before yesterday's nomination process began, Republican Party chairman, Reince Priebus was calling Mitt Romney the nominee facing Barack Obama ignoring the fact he had not yet been elected to be the Republican Party's nominee.

Yes, and they call the winner of the election the "president elect" before the Electoral College votes too. What a crock full of phoney outrage.

19 posted on 08/29/2012 4:53:30 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: mnehring

exactly


20 posted on 08/29/2012 4:59:56 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: fromscratchmom

Ron Paul is discrediting the good things he talked about. Good grief he is serving as a Rep. he is also 78 years old. He is only trying to score for himself.The hell with everyone else.


21 posted on 08/29/2012 5:01:32 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: fromscratchmom
Even though it would mean a significant hit to their membership and voter roll numbers, the Republican Party leadership would be glad to rid themselves of them so they do not have to be constantly reminded to vote for a smaller, less intrusive government.

yep

22 posted on 08/29/2012 5:02:29 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (Constitutional Conservatism is Americanism.)
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To: fromscratchmom

why are they letting McCain talk


23 posted on 08/29/2012 5:03:28 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: DEADROCK

One person made a good point, the platform is as conservative as it’s ever been.... but... those are just words, and who knows if Mitt’s even on board.


24 posted on 08/29/2012 5:09:06 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Persevero

Why? Ron Paul is not a conservative he is a kook who wants to legalize weed. And of course let Iran continue to build nukes.


25 posted on 08/29/2012 5:11:00 PM PDT by Shaka
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To: fromscratchmom

Hey, they were there tonight and RP gave a nice speech.


26 posted on 08/29/2012 5:21:47 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: fromscratchmom
King George III had laws and rules against dissent and discourse in America a couple hundred years ago.

What did he get for that?

27 posted on 08/29/2012 5:24:41 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: fromscratchmom
Gary Johnson told me this would happen and when it would happen over a steak and baked potato on my back porch in 2003.

That's the only reason he is still a candidate.

He told me directly he would be running in either 2012 or 2016.

Smart guy. Strong defender of liberty.

28 posted on 08/29/2012 5:33:37 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: D-fendr

True, since a good number of them are the same people who voted for Obama in the last election and quite a few of Paul’s support was in the Occutard camps. I don’t see that many were “conservatives” but were posers who were wearing the conservative label to try to get more attention on their crazy uncle.

Looks like it didn’t work.


29 posted on 08/29/2012 5:34:32 PM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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To: D-fendr

Everyone I have ever asked has said that if they couldn’t vote for Paul, they would vote Democrat. It is not about anything except legalized pot.


30 posted on 08/29/2012 5:40:23 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: cripplecreek

I agree.


31 posted on 08/29/2012 5:52:01 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: reformedliberal

some one once said on here which made sense

Paul bots are liberals who don’t like paying taxes,.

Think that sums it up about the kooks, they are in no way shape or form conservatives . Paul should not have bene allowed to run on our nomination process nor come to our convention, the libertarians have their own process but of course they try and infiltrate ours.


32 posted on 08/29/2012 5:53:14 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: D-fendr

Paul is an equal opportunity whack job. His support going elsewhere hurts Obama at least as much as Romney.


Yes, correct. Paul has a lot of supporters who would be voting Obama.


33 posted on 08/29/2012 6:35:13 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (The GOP Media whining over Todd Akin is not legitimate)
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To: berdie

later


34 posted on 08/29/2012 7:23:58 PM PDT by berdie
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To: elkfersupper

Johnson is a whack case, don’t you know his party platform?


35 posted on 08/29/2012 7:27:20 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: fromscratchmom; cripplecreek; All

Thanks for this thread.

It is to early to look back on the past Primary Campaign and pick out the best ideas from each Candidate. Single issue rejection is still the hot-button reflex of the day.

It is noteworthy that the winner had one of the most unclear set of ideas as to what he proposed to do. Hopefully, Romney will reduce his magic 59 points into 3-5 major ideas in his Convention Speechso we known what he plans to do.

Herman Cain gave the Republican Party a 27 % maximum tax rate, broken down into 3 groups. Once the Liberal Agenda Media (LAM) got rid of Cain, no other Candidate picked up Cain’s 9-9-9 Plan, but we Cain supporters are still here, waiting - - - .

Ron Paul is the Father of the TEA Party. The article, discussing the Ron Paul supporters, states: “ - - -the Republican Party leadership would be glad to rid themselves of them so they do not have to be constantly reminded to vote for a smaller, less intrusive government.”

If the author of the article is correct, then no RINO will dare to combat Romney/Ryan by voting for a smaller, less intrusive Federal Government.

What the author does not take into account is that the US Federal Government will fail financially before the Ryan Budget balances in 18 years.

IOW, whatever politician sits in the White House will have to call for help from the TEA Party, who have been in the Republican Party all along, waiting - - - .


36 posted on 08/29/2012 7:29:50 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: fromscratchmom

I was horrified on Tuesday. I have been an (R) voter for years and I am now energized and thrilled. So the party I thought was my party exposed itself. They have denigrated independent thinkers for years and I have ignored it. Now they have grown so bold in their determination to lead as elitist that I can no longer lie to myself that they are the conservative party, or that they are the party that cares the most about the constitution. They had a golden opportunity this time around. But instead they have exposed their true nature for me to finally see just how deep the corruption runs.

They are not about voting and counting the votes, that is for sure. lol

As an insider of sorts from within the republican party let me give you a picture of what I have seen. Over the course of many years, I have gravitated towards those who are genuinely interested in the principles of American Conservatism within the party and have tried to mostly ignored those with the lashing out or bullying mentality towards those who disagree. I’ve never been a joiner per se. I’ve long since decided not to donate to the party, only to individual candidates, but to keep with the party in voting time and time again.

I have at various times described myself as a Republican, an Independent, an independent thinker, a constitutional conservative, and American conservative and as having a bit of a libertarian streak, or even quite a libertarian streak.

... all the while voting republican and never campaigning for Dr. Paul or for any candidate from any other party. but watching and understanding much.

What happened on Tuesday, was not really about Ron Paul. It was about all of us. I don’t think the GOP knows what it has done, and I am just as glad if they don’t. But they never knew who there voters were and now they have exposed themselves.

What happened on Tuesday was about who they really are, how dirty they are willing to play, and how many of us there are who saw it and were changed by it. I took a turn that day for sure. And from what I am seeing there are many like many who did as well. Goodbye GOP


37 posted on 08/30/2012 4:48:48 AM PDT by fromscratchmom
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To: fromscratchmom
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/08/14/boehner_calls_opponents_to_tarp_knuckledraggers.html

I would be very inclined to believe the accusations that all Romney was doing was sending the Paul supporters back to Obama IF I had not read the above last week. Boehner would rather play golf with Obama than keep his oath he took as a US House Representative. Boehner could have pulled the funding plug on Oromery care the day he became Speaker of the House.... Boehner is a play actor who forgets who voted in large numbers to give him his present gig.

38 posted on 08/30/2012 5:01:56 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Have you donated to the 'resurrection of Akin' yet?)
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To: fromscratchmom

By the Romney Campaign treatment at the Convention of Conservative delegates, rules and potential guest speakers, it is easy to conclude that Romney/Ryan are confident that they will squeak by Obama with a narrow win in November without strong support from the undecided Conservative voters.

The “neutral” undecided voters found in the Media Opinion Polls plus the now adrift undecided Conservative voters will make the total Undecided vote a bigger voter block than before the RNC Convention. A political blunder by design.

Thus, the total Undecided vote will be a more significant wedge vote than before, much to the delight of the Democrat Candidates for the Senate and House who are looking for long Obama coat tails.

Will Romney try to correct this Campaign blunder? Will he even recognize it as a blunder?

Romney could, in his Convention Speech tonight, choose to include the TEA Party base in his Campaign, but this may be his last chance to do so - - - .

Tick-Tock Romney, Tick-Tock.


39 posted on 08/30/2012 7:32:19 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf

I do not think he will. I think there are forces at play that politics as usual types cannot understand. I think the current corruptions associated with our two party past are at an end. President Johnson will be a big surprise to Robamney.


40 posted on 08/30/2012 8:26:49 AM PDT by fromscratchmom
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To: fromscratchmom; All

” - - - I think the current corruptions associated with our two party past are at an end.”

I would like to believe so.

Right now we have only one political party: THE BIG GOVERNMENT PARTY. It has two wings, the Democrat “Free Stuff” Party, and the Republicans In Name Only “Our Free Stuff is better than YOUR Free Stuff” Party. Nanny, nanny, boo boo!

Every now and then both wings slip up and reveal that they are wings of the same BIG GOVERNMENT PARTY by holding a presser and announcing proudly that they have sold America down the river again with their latest ground breaking “Bipartisan Cave-In.”

“Happy days are here again” happens every four years for the blood-sucking politicians, but the National Debt continues to never-endingly drain the blood out of we sheep, the taxpayers.


41 posted on 08/30/2012 8:55:52 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: ansel12
Johnson is a whack case

People used similar, contemporary derogatory terms to describe Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, etc. - in fact all of the signers of the Declaration of Independence and authors of the Federalist Papers.

don’t you know his party platform?

Yup.

42 posted on 08/30/2012 11:50:06 AM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

What a childish response, so you think that whackcase is more commonly used to describe the early leaders of the United States. You just might.

Since you support open borders and totally uninhibited late term abortion.

Here is Johnson’s party position on our borders.
IMMIGRATION:
The Issue: We welcome all refugees to our country and condemn the efforts of U.S. officials to create a new “Berlin Wall” which would keep them captive. We condemn the U.S. government’s policy of barring those refugees from our country and preventing Americans from assisting their passage to help them escape tyranny or improve their economic prospects.

The Principle: We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age or sexual preference. We oppose government welfare and resettlement payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons.

Solutions: We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. We strongly oppose all measures that punish employers who hire undocumented workers. Such measures repress free enterprise, harass workers, and systematically discourage employers from hiring Hispanics.

Transitional Action: We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally.


43 posted on 08/30/2012 12:16:37 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
There were wars fought in this country and elsewhere over the inherent human right to peaceably travel from place to place.

Had Pangea broken into differently-configured pieces, had there never been a Bering land bridge and had mankind never invented ocean-going vessels, this country might be a vast unsettled wilderness today - which is exactly what the Left wants to re-engineer.

44 posted on 08/30/2012 1:34:39 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

My gosh, you really are a full bore nutcase.


45 posted on 08/30/2012 2:03:22 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
My gosh, you really are a full bore nutcase.

Insufficient. I want to be a "whackjob" like Gary Johnson.

Please modify your comment.

46 posted on 08/30/2012 3:38:40 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

I do like your style, to have such unusual views, you sure handle it well.


47 posted on 08/30/2012 3:53:18 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: elkfersupper

“Had Pangea broken into differently-configured pieces, had there never been a Bering land bridge and had mankind never invented ocean-going vessels, this country might be a vast unsettled wilderness today - which is exactly what the Left wants to re-engineer.”

crackers


48 posted on 08/30/2012 10:36:15 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: rbmillerjr
Well, I don't know about you, but I know unequivocally that not one particle of Native American genetic material ever came anywhere near me or my ancestors.

We are all from somewhere else and got here either before there were any immigration laws or ways to enforce them. I guess I am technically "illegal" and should just go turn myself in.

I might be slightly Hispanic, because a splinter of my father's family had its origins along the France / Spain border where the roads and trails were kind of muddy and steep.

The right to peaceably travel is inherent. Key word = "peaceably".

49 posted on 08/31/2012 12:26:59 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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