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Rice: 'American Strength Begins At Home' (Matthews prompts Mitchell to ask "birther" questions)
MSNBC ^ | August 29, 2012 | Condi Rice

Posted on 08/29/2012 9:23:04 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

Transcript @3:15: "This is Chris Matthews. Andrea, could you ask the secretary...her speech was so overpoweringly positive...was it kind of a rejoinder to all of the birtherism and the narrowness that she has heard in her party?"

@5:15 (Andrea)"Do you feel that there has been a very troubling question of race and of prejudice in this campaign by the birther movement and those who espouse it?" (Condi) "The birther movement is an extreme and there are extremes on both sides of the political spectrum. The great majority of the people here and the great majority of people in America believe that we are one America."

(Excerpt) Read more at video.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012rncconvention; andreamitchell; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; chrismatthews; condirice; naturalborncitizen; obama
MSLSD, at the behest of the White House, IMO, shows extreme fear of "birther" issue and is desperate to frame it as racist even grabbing Condi after her speech on foreign policy to bait her into agreeing with that premise, which she ignores on the first attempt, but then says it is "an extreme" without the "racist" specifier set up by Matthews and Mitchell.
1 posted on 08/29/2012 9:23:11 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: null and void; LucyT

ping to Condi “birther” comments


2 posted on 08/29/2012 9:24:55 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp; Absolutely Nobama; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Aurorales; autumnraine; azishot; ...
Constitutional Eligibility

3 posted on 08/29/2012 9:28:06 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1318 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: y'all

Chris Matthews (_*_)


4 posted on 08/29/2012 9:38:55 PM PDT by Cyber Ninja
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To: null and void

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/48837319/#48837319

haha, she sidestepped that first insulting question nicely...too bad she stepped in it later on....

BOY, Andrea Bitchell and Chrissyfit Matthews are incredible jerks!!


5 posted on 08/29/2012 9:42:57 PM PDT by bitt (These Commies are making it impossible to stick to my self-imposed moratorium on foul language)
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To: Cyber Ninja

you can multiply all of the reporters involved in this MSMBC , post speech interview by 10, subract the total from Condi Rice’s intelligence and she would still be 10 times smarter than any of the reporters flapping about birthers.

These idiots are poster children for American opportunity. If morons like this can feed themselves then any potential immigrant can rightfully assume that he will be wealthy one year from the date he/she enters .


6 posted on 08/29/2012 9:47:02 PM PDT by ping jockey (We have arrogant jerks for leaders and WE will pay the highest cost.)
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To: Seizethecarp

When And To Whom Will Obama Have To Submit His Birth Certificate For This Election?

Who is the person that signs the final affadavit for Obama for this election?

Nancy Pelosi did it last time, using an allegedly modified form.

How can we monitor this process this go-round?


7 posted on 08/29/2012 9:58:18 PM PDT by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful
Barry and his legal team with the compliance of the MSM and even the GOP have exploited legal loopholes allowing the “honor system” up to this point.

I don't know who will sign the DNC letter to the SOS’s this year but a pile of lawsuits are ready to be filed the minute the letters are signed.

8 posted on 08/29/2012 10:08:54 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
The lawsuits are one thing and the federal bureaucratic process is another.

Focusing only on the bureaucratic process:

It would be nice to map out the ‘flow chart’ of the path that the certification process will take...i.e. who each individual is that occupies each office that the certification document must pass through.

How can a citizen learn about this process?

We need to know who generates and issues the Federal Form that must be certified.

We need to know what that form is and we need to compare it to Pelosi’s form.

We then need to make a game plan to monitor each step in the process.

We need to understand at which choke points we have the right to request accountability.

We need to find out which currently serving representatives might be willing to assist us.

9 posted on 08/29/2012 10:14:51 PM PDT by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful
There is no “federal” process. There are 51 or so independent elections of electors in each state and DC, IIRC, each with its own process. All of this has been extensively researched and discussed on FR...and on Fogbow on the Obot side.
10 posted on 08/29/2012 10:29:55 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: bitt
Seems to me the republicans at the convention are doing a terrific job of noting how important a genuine education really is.

Also, seems to me that the really true, deep down and dirty RACISTS in our country are the democrats.

They are horridly full of low expectations and counting on the results of it to keep their voting block in line or in sync., The democrats diss, and slander and mock blacks or other minorities who walk away from this insidious drive to keep a tight control on their plantation in order to maintain their dependence upon government.

Democrats KILL the spirit and DRIVE to hit the dream because they know what happens when people wake up.

Every single democrat who opposes vouchers, who supports teachers' unions that force communities to keep inept, lazy sometimes ill educated teachers in the classrooms is acting like a genuine racist towards the victems of such shameful tactics; guilty of a racism that impacts its victems for life.

All you need to know about racism can be found in the democrat party these days.

Matthews and his ilk prove this point by exclusion of the marvelous speeches given by the black and hispanic and Puerto Rican speakers that the convention.

In order to keep their plantation victems dependent, angry and blinded to opposing ideologies, they leave out anything on the screen that might cause a light to go on within their fan base.

Matthews is a modern day Goebbels in my mind, using insidious means to deny his fellow Americans the full story.

Shameful. And so sad for our country.

It can be said that the democrat media are overt liars. Omission is a form of lying. They are gulity of bearing false witness to our nation.

11 posted on 08/29/2012 10:29:55 PM PDT by Republic (Keep uhbama desperate - seems to force slips of honesty from his angry interior)
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To: Seizethecarp

“Peace really does come through strength”
Dr. Condoleezza Rice - Aug. 29, 2012


12 posted on 08/29/2012 10:33:13 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: null and void

I loathe her.


13 posted on 08/29/2012 10:35:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Seizethecarp; Stoat; mylife

Dr Rice Rocks out loud! Go Condi!

14 posted on 08/29/2012 10:39:16 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: little jeremiah

15 posted on 08/29/2012 10:40:45 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: little jeremiah

Perhaps you can disagree with her on issues? Why this constant drumbeat of ad hominem hatred for other Republicans, even if they don’t meet your conservative litmus test? Reagan was a conservative who knew how to win a coalition in the Republican party and beyond with his 11th Commandmant. The hatemongers here at FR, and they seem to be legion, could learn a thing or two from Reagan.


16 posted on 08/29/2012 10:45:21 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam

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17 posted on 08/29/2012 11:17:35 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: bitt
I don't see how she stepped in it later. Did you expect her to defend the moonbat birther movement?

The question was offensive and made more offensive when Andrea Mitchell came back for another pass.

18 posted on 08/30/2012 12:38:01 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 68 days away.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
He questioned Rubio's natural born citizenship on another thread.

He's a moonbat birther.

19 posted on 08/30/2012 12:45:42 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 68 days away.)
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To: Seizethecarp

The “birther movement” is extreme, is it? Blindly accepting as Truth anything that is so obviously not will eventually land you a Darwin Award. A whole bunch of folks buying into Zero’s propaganda are heading for the award.


20 posted on 08/30/2012 3:00:34 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: newzjunkey

Some of us “conservatives” are really tired of folks that are being held up as our “leaders” responding to the crap the Brown Shirt Media is doing like a dog begging for a biscuit. It would submit this is why the Tea Party is leaderless.


21 posted on 08/30/2012 3:04:13 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Be Careful

All of that was covered between July 2008 and mid-2010.

But of course you wouldn’t know that.


22 posted on 08/30/2012 3:35:22 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Why does Matthews and the rest of the MSLSD progs have the irrational need for everyone to re-affirm 0bama was born in the USA???

How would I know?? I have not seen ANY solid proof! My personal affirmation does not make 0bama legitament


23 posted on 08/30/2012 4:24:17 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Seizethecarp

Re:the constant Birther questions.

Matthews needs another drink


24 posted on 08/30/2012 4:35:17 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Seizethecarp

Other examples of extreme:

The 1776 revolution.

Going to the moon.

The civil war.

Sometimes extreme is what’s needed.


25 posted on 08/30/2012 5:32:57 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER

I think looking into the facts surrounding Obama’s birth is extreme at all. It is clear that the WHLFCOLB.pdf posted on the the wh.gov site is not a scan of a paper document, as claimed.

How can *anyone* justify *not* looking further when confronted with the facts regarding the WHLFCOLB.pdf?

After seeing Joe Arpio’s presentation, how can *anyone* not want to look further?

After reading the report at Moncktononline.com, how can *anyone* justify no further investigation?


26 posted on 08/30/2012 5:45:10 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Seizethecarp

To clarify, what was the altered ‘form’ thar Pelosi signed that approved Obama’s eligibility?


27 posted on 08/30/2012 6:05:46 AM PDT by Be Careful
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To: PA-RIVER

Oh, please explain how the “Civil War” was needed. Keep in mind that the war “settled” the issue as to whether or not states were indeed sovereign and whether we would have an all powerful central government...which has given us the Obama dictatorship.

Yeah, we REALLY need that.


28 posted on 08/30/2012 6:13:51 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: little jeremiah

Hey how you doing, I was worried about you as I;ve not seen you about on here?

Mitchell is an old washed up woman


29 posted on 08/30/2012 6:15:06 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Lee'sGhost
Oh, please explain how the “Civil War” was needed.

Because no nation founded on the principle that all men are created equal could continue to exist when the law put in place to ensure that principle was used to deny it. That glaring omission had to be corrected, even if it threatened the existence of the nation itself.

The right side won, the wrong side lost.

Your side had the better generalship and the better soldiery; the north had the better cause. And God was watching. The end.

30 posted on 08/30/2012 6:24:43 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Seizethecarp

” - - - (Condi) “The birther movement is an extreme - - - “

Spoken like a true RINO McCain Method believer. Your position in the sorry RINO wing of the formerly Great Republican Party is secure Condi.

BTW RINO Condi, what you going to say when the proof comes out that Obama really is an Illegal Alien?


31 posted on 08/30/2012 7:24:32 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

No. The end has not been written. We see the continuance of the destruction of the United STATES of American in its relentless march toward the United STATE of America thanks entirely to Abe Lincoln and northern Federalist. Your point about the “threatened existence” of the nation makes no sense, given that the nation — as it was founded — was destroyed in 1865.

Another fact that fails is your “continue to exist” comment. The U.S. would have continued on, only without the southern states.

I come from the perspective that slavery was an abominable institution and would have ended eventually anyway, as it did in ever other western, civilized nation. Keeping in mind that the war was NOT fought to free slaves — and that by forcing “free” men of the South to be slaves to a union — there is NO moral high ground to be claimed...unless you believe there is nobility in freeing black people while enslaving white people.

This has been kicked around a million times on FR, but one simple fact NEVER changes...the path to a repressive central government began with the WBTS...whether you believe that war was fought for the right reasons or not. To champion that “victory” is to champion slavery by an all powerful federal government. Period.

So much for being on the “right” side.


32 posted on 08/30/2012 7:59:56 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Graewoulf
When is someone going to ask Obama why won't he let anyone see his college transcripts, what is he hiding? Why doesn't anyone remember him? And most importunity why was his Law license taken away?
33 posted on 08/30/2012 8:04:24 AM PDT by onthegulf
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To: Lee'sGhost
I come from the perspective that slavery was an abominable institution and would have ended eventually anyway, as it did in ever other western, civilized nation.

Baloney. Under the guise of state rights, the Confederacy seceded and went to war over the notion that they had the God-given right to enslave human beings for economic advantage. The Confederacy went to war to defend its social and economic system in perpetuity, not to have the fruits of their toil - if successful - wither on the vine in a few years. Yours is wishful thinking; you're applying modern sentiments and sensibilities to a 19th century issue.

Keeping in mind that the war was NOT fought to free slaves — and that by forcing “free” men of the South to be slaves to a union — there is NO moral high ground to be claimed...unless you believe there is nobility in freeing black people while enslaving white people.

No rhetorical trick of yours can ever equate the "slavery" of being governed by a federal government to actual "slavery," in which one race of human being is considered chattel by another - actual property - and is denied the basic human rights granted to them by God. Cut out the awkward, self-serving attempts to do so.

God was watching, and you were on the wrong side. The end.

34 posted on 08/30/2012 8:21:01 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Seizethecarp

Why Dr. Rice or Scott Walker would allow themselves to be interviewed by this trash station is beyond me.


35 posted on 08/30/2012 8:23:46 AM PDT by commonguymd (New media has not replaced the MSM. It has emboldened it. Never underestimate the power they have.)
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To: onthegulf; fromscratchmom; Venturer; Aspenhuskerette; All

” - - - When is someone going to ask Obama why - - - “

Obviously you have forgotten the basic tenant of the RINO McCain Method: “NEVER, EVER try to get the advantage over your opponent!”

Lame-Brain McCain was very successful with his McCain Method in 2008, and resulted in no small part to his stellar loss to the arrogant, and incompetent Obama learning how to play the game of golf at the expense of we sheep, the taxpayers.

Will Romney/Ryan be loyal RINOs and also use the vaunted McCain Method?

Obama is hoping so, as joining the pro tour in golf would allow him continued use of the Corporate Jet lifestyle that he has taken full advantage of, also at the expense of we sheep, the taxpayers.


36 posted on 08/30/2012 8:35:06 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Why do you keep declaring the “end” after making false statements?

I didn’t say anything about WHY the Confederacy seceded. I maintain, as any reasonable thinking person would, that slavery would have ended under its own weight EVENTUALLY...whether the Southern states were part of the union or a confederacy. You have to be a southernphobe to think for a minute that they would continue to exist as the only civilized nation in the western hemisphere to allow slavery. It defies logic. Just as the nation was able to change the Constitution to allow women to vote (just one example), slavery too would have changed, given enough time.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but your juvenile and ignorant perspective falls apart when you realize that the Union operated under the belief that there was a “God-given right to enslave human beings for economic advantage” for seven decades before the Confederacy ever existed. And whine all you want, but the truth remains — while you can argue that the war was fought BECAUSE of the slave issue, NO ONE can make the argument that war was declared so as to FREE the slaves. It just did not happen that way.

Get over yourself. Being wrong is one thing, being stupid about it is not a way of life one should choose willingly.


37 posted on 08/30/2012 8:44:03 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Lee'sGhost
You were the one who posed the question:

Oh, please explain how the “Civil War” was needed.

I answered. Apparently you didn't like the answer, and now you've sunk to calling me stupid.

Awesome.

I'm not one to suffer fools . . . not lightly . . . not at all. Have a good day, sir.

38 posted on 08/30/2012 9:11:47 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Unam Sanctam

I could give a flying rat’s *** about someone being a Republican. If the Repubs were not (so many of them) either riding the gravy train until the wheels fall off, paid off, blackmailed, leftists themselves, or cowards, we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in.

I care about the Constitution. Rice is a liberal and a racist and she nauseates me.

If Reagan were here today he’d have some very harsh words for a large number of Republicans. They’ve gone around the bend, are more liberal than Democrats used to be a couple of generations ago.


39 posted on 08/30/2012 9:15:55 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: manc

Just been too, too busy...

I lurk when I can.

Put up 16 pints of blackberry “slurry” yesterday. Canning season is always busy. We have no $ so the more free fruit I can, the more we have to eat in the winter. Boxes of apples next.


40 posted on 08/30/2012 9:18:56 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

Whatever. You must be a joy to be around.


41 posted on 08/30/2012 9:59:35 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Seizethecarp

Americans have been vocally skeptical about nearly everything politicians have said and done since the settlement of Jamestown. Concern about the constitutional qualifications of a President has nothing to do with racism, and is mostly a problem of his own creation.

Chris Matthews and Andrea Mitchell should be ashamed in general, but for demeaning an African-American President by holding him to lower standards based solely on his race in particular.


42 posted on 08/30/2012 10:24:14 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I didn’t like your answer because it both, at the same time, made no sense and was wrong. Apparently you don’t like being shown that you’re wrong, so you stuck out your upper lip and and ran away.

For the record, I did not call you stupid. I said you were being stupid about being wrong. Now THAT is being a fool.

Awesome.

Have a good day.


43 posted on 08/30/2012 10:34:20 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Chewbarkah

Sorry... I meant bottom lip.


44 posted on 08/30/2012 10:35:07 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Unam Sanctam

Are you employed by the Republican party?

Do you like the direction the Republican party is going?

Are you happy with Romney being the candidate?

Are you happy with the spinelessness of the R majority house?

These are not rhetorical questions, I really wonder.


45 posted on 08/30/2012 10:47:24 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SatinDoll

Hoping to clarify your response to me.....I find it to be really rude, unless I am missing something


46 posted on 09/07/2012 9:32:11 PM PDT by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful

“All of that was covered between July 2008 and mid-2010. But of course you wouldn’t know that.”

Sorry if you thought the above was rude. Since you didn’t come on board Free Republic until later in 2010, I thought it would be obvious.

There was a huge amount of discourse concerning BHO2 starting in 2007 and continuing up to mid-2010, and much of it wasn’t on Free Republic.

Some places have shut down, like the Texas Darlin’ blog, but some, like Beckwith’s blog, still exist. There is a huge amount of information on his site:

http://www.theobamafile.com

Obama’s people were working furiouly to scub off the internet any information concerning his birth in Kenya. They were very busy in early 2008 and didn’t get around to finishing the scrubs in Africa until mid-2010.

Another good source is, An American Expat in Southeast Asia
http://www.laotze.blogspot.com/

Read as much as you can of these two blogs. The information is absolutely eye-opening.

If you have questions on the natural born Citizen requirement of the U.S. Constitution, I can fill you in on that, too.


47 posted on 09/07/2012 10:01:28 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Republic

Yes, you are right. There are many on their side who are truly evil... and some on the GOP as well, but theirs is an insidious, generational evil that destroys families, communities and opportunity for all.


48 posted on 09/07/2012 11:17:08 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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