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Police shut down Burnside Bridge, detain 13 bearded men(open carry Oregon)
katu.com ^ | 29 August, 2012 | Meghan Kalkstein

Posted on 08/30/2012 7:01:17 AM PDT by marktwain

PORTLAND, Ore. – Portland police shut down the Burnside Bridge and detained 13 bearded men who said they were headed to a photo shoot to raise money for breast cancer research Wednesday evening.

According to spokesman Robert King, police received a report that a man on the bridge had an assault rifle. Officers shut down the bridge just after 7:30 p.m. while they investigated.

Police found 13 bearded men, many of whom wore military style uniforms. One of the men had an assault rifle, King said. They were taken to the Central Precinct.

It's unclear if the assault rifle was loaded.

Several of the men told KATU News they were on their way to take a photo under the "Portland, Oregon" sign near the Burnside Bridge to raise money for breast cancer research. The men said the photo was going to be part of a Beards for Breasts calendar.

"It's from Seattle," said Jedediah Aacker. "This girl, Sugar June, does it. She puts together a calendar for all the beard clubs around the nation. Beards for breasts."

Someone called police when they saw one of the men holding a rifle on the bridge.

"We were wearing camo gear and stuff walking up to do the shoot and sure enough police show up, boom, arrested us," said Aacker.

"We were just a bunch of dudes walking across the bridge wearing camo getting rad."

King said two of the men were arrested and charged with disorderly conduct for handling the rifle. It's unclear if any of the other men were charged with a crime.

The men told KATU there were 10 of them. Police said 13 were detained.

The bridge was opened at around 8:15.

"We didn't mean to shake up the community or shut down the Burnside Bridge," said Matthew Jenkins. "Just trying to save boobs, you know?"


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: banglist; opencarry; or; oregon; politicallycorrect; portland
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It is legal to have beards in Portland.

It is legal to carry unloaded rifles in Portland.

It is legal to wear military style uniforms in Portland.

I wonder if they will sue for false arrest and be rewarded with a settlement, as has happened in so many other states.

1 posted on 08/30/2012 7:01:21 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Did someone say beard?


2 posted on 08/30/2012 7:04:57 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: marktwain
Disorderly conduct for handling a rifle??? This sounds like a nuisance charge for harassing legal activities. Hope there are more details and followup reports.
3 posted on 08/30/2012 7:06:33 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: marktwain
It's unclear if the assault rifle was loaded.

Why, is it against the law for it to be loaded?

4 posted on 08/30/2012 7:07:15 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: marktwain

“Just trying to save boobs.” I love these guys!


5 posted on 08/30/2012 7:08:05 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: marktwain

” “We didn’t mean to shake up the community or shut down the Burnside Bridge,” “

Sir. You didn’t shut down the bridge.

The Gestapo shut down the bridge.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 7:08:05 AM PDT by moovova (Hope-ium...Time to kick the habit.)
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To: freedomlover
They were hunting Sasquatch?
7 posted on 08/30/2012 7:08:54 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: marktwain

So one of ‘em had a rifle with a full auto switch?


8 posted on 08/30/2012 7:12:38 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: freedomlover

I, for one, appreciate law enforcement for checking out scary hairy dudes with guns, no matter the flavor.


9 posted on 08/30/2012 7:12:57 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Jedidah

Amen.


10 posted on 08/30/2012 7:19:09 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Jedidah
I, for one, appreciate law enforcement for checking out scary hairy dudes with guns, no matter the flavor.

I appreciate them checking, cautiously, but appropriately and politely. I do not appreciate them arresting for handling firearms. There is nothing inherently disorderly about carrying or handling a rifle. Unless there is something missing from the story, the police crossed the line from law enforcement "to protect and to serve" to Gestapo.

11 posted on 08/30/2012 7:20:00 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: marktwain
I wonder if they will sue for false arrest and be rewarded with a settlement, as has happened in so many other states.

************

Interesting proposition...
File the suit with publicity promising to donate the proceeds and penalties to the breast cancer charity...

Then keep the pressure on until Portland issues a written and broadcast apology...
..and coughs up a six-figure settlement/donation...

Plus attorney's fees and court costs... of course.

12 posted on 08/30/2012 7:21:03 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: marktwain

I haven’t had enough coffee this morning.

I read “Burnside Bridge” and immediately thought Antietam.


13 posted on 08/30/2012 7:22:08 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Jedidah
I, for one, appreciate law enforcement for checking out scary hairy dudes with guns, no matter the flavor.

The "checking" part was fine ... it was the "arresting" part that should have you worried. How are you going to like it when they decide to arrest you because they don't like something that you're doing that's legal to do?

14 posted on 08/30/2012 7:29:42 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: moovova

“Gestapo” is only for old folks. “Stasi” is a bit more current.

I take it you are over, say, 50 or 60, as I am?


15 posted on 08/30/2012 7:32:03 AM PDT by Blagden Alley
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To: marktwain

A somewhat better result for an Open-Carry advocate in Southern Oregon recently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj9wahCTz08


16 posted on 08/30/2012 7:32:58 AM PDT by Rio (Tempis fugit.)
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To: marktwain
The best way to demonstrate for open carry is in civilian clothes by yourself, I would think.

Even in a simpler time when 2A rights were better respected, a crew of thirteen uniformed men under arms would raise concerns.

The police would have been remiss not to look into it.

17 posted on 08/30/2012 7:34:24 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Pollster1

I agree. The KGB and gestapo types in LEO need to be discouraged from this type of behavior. But then, what can you expect from the People’s Republic of Portland? They’re probably comfortable with KGB tactics.


18 posted on 08/30/2012 7:36:38 AM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: Pollster1

Yes, and the worst thing about it is, this isn’t an isolated incident at all. It’s become SOP to use disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, etc charges to harass people who are behaving legally, but in a way that the socialists don’t like. They can’t pass gun control in the legislature, so they just make people wary of carrying a firearm outside of their home, for fear of police harassment.


19 posted on 08/30/2012 7:38:08 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Jedidah

I don’t mind either.

I do mind them arresting them for exercising their 2A rights and trying to slap disorderly conduct charges on them for exercising their 2A rights.

I hope they get their asses sued off. This is not a soviet police state.


20 posted on 08/30/2012 7:43:15 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: wideawake

Again, the checking part isn’t the problem, it’s the arresting them part and the disorderly conduct charge for exercising their 2A rights part that are the problems.


21 posted on 08/30/2012 7:44:54 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: wideawake
Even in a simpler time when 2A rights were better respected, a crew of thirteen uniformed men under arms would raise concerns.

Perhaps so, but only one man was carrying a rifle.

22 posted on 08/30/2012 7:46:49 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Pollster1

Bingo!


23 posted on 08/30/2012 7:49:35 AM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: wideawake
The police would have been remiss not to look into it.

True, but an arrest based on no violation of law, but on the fears of a hoplophobe should be costly to the individual police officers.

24 posted on 08/30/2012 7:51:44 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: EGPWS

The boobs came out of the woodwork on this one.


25 posted on 08/30/2012 7:52:49 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Secret Agent Man
This is not a soviet police state.

If things go wrong in November, it may well become one!

26 posted on 08/30/2012 7:58:21 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Like I said watch for false flags.


27 posted on 08/30/2012 7:59:58 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Old Sarge

Me too; I couldn’t envision what was happening and thought the bearded guys must be reenactors getting ready for the “Maryland My Maryland” event in a few weeks.


28 posted on 08/30/2012 8:01:26 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Truth29
I miss the good ol' days when I would grab my model 12, load it up, and walk through town with it to hit the woods and go hunting.

The worse I experienced was a "good luck" and a wave of a hand.

29 posted on 08/30/2012 8:04:58 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: marktwain

If nothing else, this should get more donations for breast cancer and the calendar will see like hotcakes.


30 posted on 08/30/2012 8:23:09 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Secret Agent Man; marktwain; JimRed
I agree with you guys that actually bringing them downtown was just completely out of bounds.

That being said, the police were probably not thinking in terms of deliberately depriving them of their rights but were probably thinking of the "optics" if something went wrong.

Hopefully this turns out to be a teachable moment for the police here.

31 posted on 08/30/2012 8:24:30 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

What would a good cop have done?

Asked them where they were going.

Probably found out that it was very near, since they were on foot and not in vehicles.

Decided that their mission was a good idea and offered to have a car follow behind them so as to prevent more stupid 911 panic calls and as their own contribution to the good cause.

And it would have tied up only one cop and one car rather than the large number of cops it takes to haul in and process 13 people.

The cops used terrible judgement.


32 posted on 08/30/2012 8:38:12 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Blagden Alley

” over, say, 50 or 60,”

61...and feeling every day of it. :-)


33 posted on 08/30/2012 8:39:13 AM PDT by moovova (Hope-ium...Time to kick the habit.)
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To: marktwain

There’s a lot of bearded men in Vermont. Usually there are two explanations:

1) They’re hippies.

2) They are sensibly shielding their faces against the winter cold.


34 posted on 08/30/2012 8:46:02 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: marktwain

It used to be legal to open carry in California. Then after a few people decided to push it, it was made illegal. Open carry makes the sheep nervous.


35 posted on 08/30/2012 8:50:19 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (this space for rent)
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To: freedomlover

LOL!!!!!!! Has she had work done on her face??? Can you put side by side pics.....something is totally different.


36 posted on 08/30/2012 9:01:09 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I suspect this story involves booze more than boobs. That’s probably where the disorderly charges originated.


37 posted on 08/30/2012 9:10:23 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: fella

He might have had one. Class III is legal in Oregon and most sheriffs readily sign off on the forms.

ed


38 posted on 08/30/2012 9:18:04 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Old Sarge
I read “Burnside Bridge” and immediately thought Antietam.

Ditto that ... and I was wondering how the heck it got to Portland.

39 posted on 08/30/2012 9:18:52 AM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: Jedidah

I doubt if they were drunk.

Portland police are notoriously anti-gun. The rest of the state’s pretty conservative, once you get outside the big cities and university towns.

Ed


40 posted on 08/30/2012 9:22:03 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: SauronOfMordor
It used to be legal to open carry in California. Then after a few people decided to push it, it was made illegal. Open carry makes the sheep nervous.

If you cannot exercise your rights because you worry about being arrested or disturbing the politicians, you have already lost them.

Rights unexercised are rights lost.

41 posted on 08/30/2012 9:41:37 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: EGPWS

I miss the good ol’ days when I would grab my model 12, load it up, and walk through town with it to hit the woods and go hunting.


I hope someday to be able to retire in an area that wont freak out by seeing my shotgun in the back window of my truck.

No can do in ATL anymore.


42 posted on 08/30/2012 9:43:00 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: marktwain

I and 9-12 of my friends are going to go march (walk) in military fatigue uniforms across a critical choke point for your city, carrying guns, and I expect you to ignore me, and just think nothing of, ‘cause no matter how it appears, “it’s legal”.

Idiots.


43 posted on 08/30/2012 10:06:58 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Lurker

Breast cancer research? Lame.

They should have uttered a word or two of Spanish, invoked the Dream Act and said “high school.” They’d be walking free.


44 posted on 08/30/2012 10:08:35 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Jedidah
I suspect this story involves booze more than boobs. That’s probably where the disorderly charges originated.

Based upon what evidence?

45 posted on 08/30/2012 10:25:55 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Old Sarge

Me too!


46 posted on 08/30/2012 11:30:09 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Wuli
New Jersey is one of a few states that has no provision in the state constitution to protect the right to keep and bear arms. California is another.

Every person's environment colors their judgment to some extent.

I live in Arizona. We have constitutional carry.

47 posted on 08/30/2012 12:38:25 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Pollster1; Jedidah

You do have to give pause at the pucker factor for the patrolman, or men that have to first approach and talk to the group, while assuming, or at least hoping that they are benign.

I think those ball shrinking approaches and interviews must be very common to Game Wardens.


48 posted on 08/30/2012 3:06:30 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12
You do have to give pause at the pucker factor for the patrolman, or men that have to first approach and talk to the group, while assuming, or at least hoping that they are benign. I think those ball shrinking approaches and interviews must be very common to Game Wardens.

I agree completely. I expect police to be alert and cautious, and they have my full respect for going up to armed strangers in these situations. However, when they go with an arrest for "disorderly conduct" over actions that are protected by the Second Amendment and are certainly not disorderly, I have a problem with their actions.

49 posted on 08/30/2012 3:14:06 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pollster1

I agree fully and should have written more to make that clear.

I just wanted to comment on something that always gets me about mostly game warden stories, it would be amusing if it wasn’t so dangerous, but some approaches to groups of men, far out in the dark boonies, must be really unpleasant to game wardens.


50 posted on 08/30/2012 3:49:29 PM PDT by ansel12
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