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The case for Romney in two words: Paul Ryan
Telegraph - UK ^ | August 30, 2012 | Daniel Hannan

Posted on 08/30/2012 11:57:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Paul Ryan had never before struck me as an inspiring speaker. I mean, I like the fellow: he has sound ideas, he's charming and he has a demotic, boy-next-door quality which is unusual among cerebral politicians. But his chief appeal has always been as a policy specialist rather than an orator.

Until last night. Ryan's speech to the Republican Convention in Tampa was a masterpiece. As Roger Kimball observes, 'His manner is open, confident, but somehow also humble. There is nothing swaggering, nothing of the braggart or narcissist about him. He seems impressed, not by the sound of his own voice, but by the facts and observations he shares with his listeners'.

Ryan took complex issues – the debt crisis, reform of Medicare, unemployment – and made them simple. He spoke movingly of his home town, the town where he still lives, and of the factory there which Barack Obama had said would be open for another hundred years, but which had closed a year later. He humanised the recession, managing to lay particular emphasis on 'the heartland': the key swing states of the Midwest. College graduates, he said, shouldn't have to live out their twenties in their childhood bedrooms, staring up at their fading Obama posters and wondering when they could move out and get on with life. There was something fundamentally wrong with wanting a society 'where everything is free – except us'.

.....No longer are Americans simply being invited to vote against the government that has presided over the downturn; now they are being given the chance to vote for balanced budgets and recovery. Ryan's newfound eloquence, his ability to convey the urgency of the crisis without sounding hysterical, is a bonus.

Leftist commentators, sensing the danger, have torn into him....

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; rncconvention; romneyryan2012
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1 posted on 08/30/2012 11:57:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ryan / West 2012


2 posted on 08/30/2012 12:00:19 PM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If, “The case for Romney in two words: Paul Ryan” is accurate, then the executive decision made when picking Paul Ryan trumps it.

Despite my differences with Romey, he could have done a hell of a lot worse than Ryan. Kudos for the pick.


3 posted on 08/30/2012 12:00:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
4 years ago the case for McCain also came down to two words: Sarah Palin.
4 posted on 08/30/2012 12:01:27 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The other two words that make the case for Romney.

“Barack Obama”


5 posted on 08/30/2012 12:02:23 PM PDT by agere_contra (Vote ABO. Don't choose the Greater Evil and then boast about how principled you are)
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To: DoughtyOne

“Despite my differences with Romey, he could have done a hell of a lot worse than Ryan. Kudos for the pick.”

Well, since Romney wasn’t in the most socialist state in the union trying to govern and had some latitude, I think he did just what I expected him to...follow his mandate. That’s who he is.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 12:06:40 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: DoughtyOne

There were some freepers here who wanted him to pick a liberal female governor of a blue state for his running mate.


7 posted on 08/30/2012 12:07:39 PM PDT by Perdogg (Mutts for Mitt all agree - Better in the crate than on the plate)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here we are again, voting for the VP instead of the P.

I hope the republican establishment is prepared to go to the mat for Ryan - NO MATTER WHAT - because the left cannot allow him to survive as the party standard barer.

It'll be a chance to redeem themselves for the cowardice they've demonstrated time after time in the past.

8 posted on 08/30/2012 12:08:45 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: DTogo
4 years ago the case for McCain also came down to two words: Sarah Palin.

I forget ... how'd that turn out?

9 posted on 08/30/2012 12:08:49 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I'm not voting for Romney. The Grand Old Whig Party doesn't own my vote and failed to earn it.)
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To: DTogo

Except McCain was a career politician with no business or political sense. Romney’s choice of Ryan shows that he can make shrewd decisions.

CEOs need to choose who is right for the job, regardless. Politicians don’t care who is best, but who is the most connected or advantageous to their future. Romney chose perfectly.


10 posted on 08/30/2012 12:08:49 PM PDT by datura (Democrat = Socialist, Progressive Democrat = Communist)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The case for third party in two words: “Obama, Romney”


11 posted on 08/30/2012 12:10:07 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I had to do a double take last night. It was actually a Republican pol with a spine live on my TV.


12 posted on 08/30/2012 12:13:25 PM PDT by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yep! That's the only way we are ever going to get a conservative president. The conservative primary vote (short of a miracle) will always split giving us a mooshy middle of the road type for a candidate. It happend last time with McCain and this time with Romney. It will likely happen next time too if Obama wins again and there is still a U.S.A. to be president of. But if Romney wins then Ryan is the likely candidate in 2016 or 2020.
13 posted on 08/30/2012 12:15:41 PM PDT by OSHA (One despises and wants to destroy the United States, the other is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The case against Romney in two words: MITT ROMNEY
14 posted on 08/30/2012 12:19:41 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: DannyTN

Please go ahead. Just don’t tell us why.


15 posted on 08/30/2012 12:19:45 PM PDT by DWC (historian)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

For all the “wind-driven-snow” conservative Freepers our there who are still having trouble accepting R&R (Romney/Ryan), you may want to take notice of Hannan’s last sentence...

“Mitt Romney isn’t running against Ronald Reagan, for Heaven’s sake; he’s running against Barack Obama. How difficult a decision is that?”


16 posted on 08/30/2012 12:19:57 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: agere_contra

Or as Hannan put it....

“Mitt Romney isn’t running against Ronald Reagan, for Heaven’s sake; he’s running against Barack Obama. How difficult a decision is that?”


17 posted on 08/30/2012 12:21:28 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: DTogo
Correct. As you may recall, Sarah Palin gave a barnburner of a speech at the RNC and the ticket actually led for a few days. Then McCain's advisers muzzled her and the rest is history.

Let's hope Mitt's advisers have the sense not to do the same with Paul Ryan.

18 posted on 08/30/2012 12:23:49 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

” Mitt Romney isn’t running against Ronald Reagan, for Heaven’s sake; he’s running against Barack Obama. How difficult a decision is that? “

Hard for some to understand.


19 posted on 08/30/2012 12:26:22 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Funny. The case for McCain was in two words, and the second one rhymed with sailin’.

What does it take to get a decent candidate on the top of the ticket these days?


20 posted on 08/30/2012 12:31:13 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: agere_contra
The other two words that make the case for Romney.

“Barack Obama”

Maybe we should make it an equation?

"Barack Obama" = "Sinking Ship"

21 posted on 08/30/2012 12:33:03 PM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: DTogo
4 years ago the case for McCain also came down to two words: Sarah Palin.

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain! Boooo ha ha ha!!!"

22 posted on 08/30/2012 12:34:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No doubt about it, I can’t wait to vote for Romney/ Ryan.

On a side note, hopefully there are enough smart people in this country to help save the FReepers from the staggering extent of their own stupidity.

I mean, really, the stench around here is very, very thick.


23 posted on 08/30/2012 12:47:39 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: aquila48

Not difficult at all. Since it would be wrong for me to vote for either Obama or Romney, neither gets my vote.


24 posted on 08/30/2012 12:48:57 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Ingtar

Congratulations! You just made it a bit easier for Obama to keep running your life.


25 posted on 08/30/2012 1:06:57 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Saving Private Enterprise Ryan.

Cheers!

26 posted on 08/30/2012 1:15:01 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: aquila48

Congratulations to the GOP making it so no matter who wins, someone will be trying to ruin my life.


27 posted on 08/30/2012 1:31:53 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: jessduntno
Well, since Romney wasn’t in the most socialist state in the union trying to govern and had some latitude, I think he did just what I expected him to...follow his mandate. That’s who he is.

I was not surprised at all when Romney's people began working to cut the grassroots Conservatives out of the GOP this week. That was the kind of crap I expected out of a Democrat in Chicago, or a Republican in Massachusetts.
28 posted on 08/30/2012 1:34:38 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: jessduntno

Well, I wish I was as optimistic as you seem to be.


29 posted on 08/30/2012 1:46:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Despite my differences with Romey, he could have done a hell of a lot worse than Ryan. Kudos for the pick.

I cringed when he became the nominee that he might jump for Jeb. That would have been a disaster.

Ryan's speech last evening was mesmerising. He raised the bar substantially. We will soon see how Romney does.

[I was impressed by Ryan the first time I actually saw him -- at the Republican-White House Healthcare summit. He eviscerated Obamacare and the ire of Obama showed, when Obama gave him the middle finger. I had hoped Ryan would jump into the presidential fray.]
30 posted on 08/30/2012 1:53:05 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: DoughtyOne

“Well, I wish I was as optimistic as you seem to be.”

You only think I’m optimistic because of your pessimism...


31 posted on 08/30/2012 1:57:07 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: Ingtar

Let me see if I understand where you’re coming from. Which one of these is true?

a. you think that Romney and Obama are the same - their agenda would affect you the same.
b. you think Romney would be worse for you than Obama
c. you think Obama would be worse for you than Romney
d. something else


32 posted on 08/30/2012 2:02:35 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: aquila48

Most likely Obama would be worse for me personally. For the future of the country, the call is tougher to make. I can understand why people would support ABO, even Romney. Since, for me, it is wrong and even unnecessary (if my vote makes a difference in Tennessee, Romney has already lost) for me to vote for the man, I just want people to do some research to see how difficult their claimed task of holding his feet to the fire will be. By the way, I would like nothing better than to be proven wrong and Romney to be a closet Reagan. The fact that they felt they had to counterbalance Ryan with eleven other moderate to left speakers (even though the content of some of the speeches was excellent) speaks volumes on where Romney and the Party are headed.


33 posted on 08/30/2012 2:13:27 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ve said before and will say again, Paul Ryan was a very good pick.

Unfortunately he isn’t at the top of the ticket. That space is occupied by willard. And willard will be the one to call the shots as to policies and priorities should they be elected. Paul Ryan on the other hand will get to break tie votes in the senate. When and if any occur.

Sorry. That’s just not enough. I’m not going to vote for an anti gun pro abort candidate so that a reliable conservative can break a tie in the senate once or twice in the next 4 years.


34 posted on 08/30/2012 2:24:12 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (WILLARD 2012 - It's not just a campaign, it's a conservative suicide pact!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That sums it up for me. That said, Romney does deserve credit for being willing to follow whatever adviser decided it and to pick Ryan.

I don’t think they were on the same wavelength, but what Romney really wants is to be President and he will do whatever it takes to achieve this.

I don’t think he has any principles of his own, except whatever benefits Romney, but it looks like he’s smart and pragmatic enough to make some good choices in achieving that.

I still don’t like him, but I’ll vote for him now, if only because I really think his instinct for self-preservation will lead him to make good choices.


35 posted on 08/30/2012 2:31:47 PM PDT by livius
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To: cuban leaf

In case you haven’t noticed, there is a whole new guard of Republican politicians: all bright and articulate and in their forties. Who are their democratic equivalents? God willing, this means that liberal democracy has had its fling.


36 posted on 08/30/2012 2:47:43 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: DoughtyOne; jessduntno; datura; DannyTN; skeeter; Alex Murphy; aquila48; Ingtar; chris37; ...

The fact Romney HAD to pick Ryan - instead of leaving him in the U.S. House where he’s needed - reveals Romney’s own underlying weakness.

Ugh


37 posted on 08/30/2012 4:34:55 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: 4Liberty

Oh look, another stupid FReeper.


38 posted on 08/30/2012 4:37:31 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Oh no, I’m not saying vote against Romney. I’m just sayin’...

If R could really stand on his own, we’d leave Ryan in Congress to steer legislation and put Allen West or Condi Rice in the VP spot. He needs Ryan - because he IS weak......

4L


39 posted on 08/30/2012 4:49:26 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: chris37

Really enjoying your comments the past few days!


40 posted on 08/30/2012 5:16:21 PM PDT by Rutabega (No one reads these anyway, right?)
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To: 4Liberty

I used to think Romney was weak too.

Originally, I preferred Cain, then Newt, then Santorum...then having no further options, Romney.

However, he was strong enough to pick Paul Ryan.

I have to give this man credit. That was very damn strong.

Paul Ryan is exactly where America needs him, and that is running against Obama the communist.

Congress has been rendered useless by John Boehner. Ryan’s talent is wasted there.


41 posted on 08/30/2012 5:40:16 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Rutabega

Thank you kindly, I really appreciate that.

Sometimes I feel like I’m on a tear or some kind of rant here, but I just cannot stomach the defeatism, the If I can’t have it all right now, then I don’t want any of it ever attitude around here.

Of course this isn’t everyone, but generally speaking it seems to be coming from many of the senior members here, and absolutely cannot tolerate it any longer!


42 posted on 08/30/2012 5:43:02 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: jessduntno

Paying attention to what folks are actually saying, tends to do that when what they are saying is fundamentally off the Conservative track.


43 posted on 08/30/2012 6:04:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: 4Liberty

Romney picked a guy that could be an equal partner. He also picked a guy that at year eight, would be just the age to take over for another eight.

I appreciate the context of what you referencing. I think you make a decent point.

None the less, Ryan is going to be able to say things that Romney agrees with, that folks would dismiss if Romney were saying them. The guy has been successful, but instead of people giving him credit, they just trash him for being rich.

I think the guy deserves criticism for his lapses on Conservatism, but he does deserve kudos for his business acumen and recognizing Ryan as a man that could fill out the ticket nicely.

If Romney had left Ryan in the house and picked another person, folks would be trashing him for not picking a more sound person. The guy couldn’t really win with some of us. Not being a fan, I do appreciate some things he has done. This was one of them.


44 posted on 08/30/2012 6:16:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: skeeter
Here we are again, voting for the VP instead of the P.

Can we vote for 2 VPs then?

Palin/Paul or Sarah Ryan or Paul Palin

45 posted on 08/30/2012 6:35:45 PM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

As soon as Romney becomes POTUS Ryan will be muzzled and kept with minor duties, so everyone best get their chances now to observe him in action, as history shows the VP is just Plan B, the Backup, the Next One in Succession.


46 posted on 08/30/2012 6:41:27 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: Eye of Unk

Yep.

As Geo. H.W. Bush put it so well: “The job of the vice president is to inquire as to the health of the President...”

and then get along to his golf game.


47 posted on 08/30/2012 7:57:58 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: DoughtyOne

And you are the arbiter of said track? Please.


48 posted on 08/30/2012 8:42:32 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: aquila48
“Mitt Romney isn’t running against Ronald Reagan, for Heaven’s sake; he’s running against Barack Obama. How difficult a decision is that?”

I agree, well put!

49 posted on 08/30/2012 8:51:19 PM PDT by Tamzee (The U.S. re-electing Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and ramming the iceberg again.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; agere_contra; Cincinatus' Wife; DoughtyOne
<< 4 years ago the case for McCain also came down to two words: Sarah Palin. I forget ... how'd that turn out? <<

I think Sarah Palin would have turned out just fine in a McCain administration and proven to be an asset to this country, if more Americans had been convinced to vote for her. I'm sold more on the idea of voting for a squishy RINO when they have a solid conservative running mate, than I am on the idea of voting Republican for "Supreme Court judges". I've had quite enough of those "conservative Republican judges". The most recent one just enshrined Obamacare as constitutional.

The Vice Presidential picks have turned to be much better than the SCOTUS judges.

50 posted on 08/30/2012 9:54:59 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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