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White House Disputes Charge President Uses “Auto-pen” for Letters to Lost Soldiers’ Grieving....
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Posted on 08/30/2012 1:54:20 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

White House Disputes Charge President Uses “Auto-pen” for Letters to Lost Soldiers’ Grieving Families

The White House today disputed the suggestion that the president had used an auto-pen to sign condolence letters to the families of Navy SEALs killed in a Chinook crash in Afghanistan last year.

“The President personally signs every letter to the families of fallen service members in Iraq and Afghanistan,” said White House National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor, “and he has said many times that it is one of the most difficult parts of his job and a reminder of the extraordinary sacrifices made by our men and women in uniform.”

The story that the president used an auto-pen to sign form letters was first posted in a blog from The Gateway Pundit, which posted letters from the president to Karen and Billy Vaughn, parents of the late SEAL Aaron Carson Vaughn, and letters to other parents of SEALs killed in that August 6, 2011 crash, asserting that the letters were “form letters — signed by an electric pen.”

Tweeted Donald Trump Thursday with a link to the Gateway Pundit story, “Too busy playing golf? @BarackObama sends form letters with an electronic signature to the parents of fallen SEALs http://bit.ly/SUEUzm.”

The Chinook crash killed 30 Americans and eight Afghans, representing the deadliest single incident in the war. Later than month, President Obama and Defense Secretary Leon Panetta traveled to Dover and attended the dignified transfer ceremony.

The White House did not dispute that the letters were form letters, but that would appear to not be unique to this president.

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1 posted on 08/30/2012 1:54:27 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

he signs laws by auto-pen

why not?


2 posted on 08/30/2012 1:56:20 PM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: Sub-Driver

Notice Zero has not said anything about unfolding disaster
in the Gulf as levees are breaking

After all most are white crackers.........


3 posted on 08/30/2012 1:58:11 PM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: Sub-Driver
The White House did not dispute that the letters were form letters, but that would appear to not be unique to this president.

"Appear to not be unique to this president."

Ohh, ABC. Really? You've gotten this desperate in your efforts to prop the guy up?

Let's see a few of those letters side-by-side. Betcha the sigs are perfectly identical.

4 posted on 08/30/2012 2:00:42 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool

I bet nobama even signs his golf score cards by autopen. What a total loser of a human.


5 posted on 08/30/2012 2:04:35 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Sub-Driver
At first glance the signatures look identical...
6 posted on 08/30/2012 2:07:01 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Sub-Driver

He can’t be that stupid after President Bush and Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfield were caught doing the same thing. Boy were they embarrassed when they were caught. I can’t imagine Obama thinking he could get away with it too.


7 posted on 08/30/2012 2:07:37 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Who cares?! Who would WANT a letter from this guy anyway? He hates America, he hates the military! It’s no different than getting a letter from the Taliban.


8 posted on 08/30/2012 2:10:11 PM PDT by albie
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To: Sub-Driver

Prove it Barry!!


9 posted on 08/30/2012 2:10:31 PM PDT by I miss American Motors
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To: Sub-Driver

From the AutoPen Website:

“Multiple Signatures: The Atlantic series makes it easy to select between different signatures in your office – multiple signatures can be stored on the same SD card. Have the capacity to imprint anyone in the office’s signature.”


10 posted on 08/30/2012 2:12:10 PM PDT by brent13a
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To: hal ogen
left one is Autopen

11 posted on 08/30/2012 2:12:17 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Sub-Driver

Sorry to say, but those are not autopenned. The loops on the Os show clear differences in each signature, they are even noticeable in the fuzzy low-res pictures.


12 posted on 08/30/2012 2:13:25 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DouglasKC

If you look closely you can spot differences in the signatures.


13 posted on 08/30/2012 2:15:22 PM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie (It's the philosophy, stupid.)
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To: DouglasKC

That’s just a guy who has practiced his signture a lot. They look somewhat different up close.


14 posted on 08/30/2012 2:15:50 PM PDT by jag.drafting
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To: DouglasKC
They're not identical. Look at the top of the O where it loops around, different in each signature. Look at the length of the line that bisects the O, different in every signature. Look at the length of that same line, and how far it extends above the O, different in every signature. Very easy to see in the blown-up picture:


15 posted on 08/30/2012 2:16:20 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Sub-Driver

No one in their right mind believes anything Zero says anyway.


16 posted on 08/30/2012 2:19:44 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Boogieman; DouglasKC; Ranald S. MacKenzie
From the AutoPen Website:

“Multiple Signatures: The Atlantic series makes it easy to select between different signatures in your office – multiple signatures can be stored on the same SD card. Have the capacity to imprint anyone in the office’s signature.”


Have 3 or 4 or 20 different Obama signatures loaded into the Autopen SD card, lay in the stack of 20 form letters and hit "start".
Then all the form letters look like they have different signatures.
You don't think these crass a-holes wouldn't think that far ahead to have more than 1 signature in the AutoPen machine?
17 posted on 08/30/2012 2:20:21 PM PDT by brent13a
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To: Sub-Driver
"Hey, it was either that or 18 rounds of golf. Whattya think? Duh."
18 posted on 08/30/2012 2:20:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sub-Driver

anyone tell me about the American soldier being held by the Taliban?

It’s been over a year now since he was taken and the media have had a black out over it since the start of it.

Course anytng which hurts their messiah they wil not report


19 posted on 08/30/2012 2:33:26 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: napscoordinator
I can’t imagine Obama thinking he could get away with it too.

The rules are different for him: he's a Democrat, and he's "black."

20 posted on 08/30/2012 2:37:46 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Now a hit television series starring Judi Dench!)
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To: DouglasKC

Actually, they don’t. The signatures clearly are different.

The signatures do look “manufactured”, so it is not surprising that someone who got one of the letters might think it is an autopen signing. But once the blogger had 3 letters, they should have seen the signatures were unique.

There are many things to rightly criticize Obama for. We shouldn’t make up things that are easily disproven, because if gives Obama a chance to change the subject and makes it look like criticism is untruthful.


21 posted on 08/30/2012 2:40:45 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Sub-Driver

This is a bigger, harder question than Dan Rather’s “fake but accurate” word processor memos, but it could still be addressed. Do we have time though? We would need a lot of autopen documents and then matching among them to identify the fake signatures. Unless today’s Buckhead has a lot of time and access to the right documents, this might not be the best issue to address. If someone has the resources though, go for it!


22 posted on 08/30/2012 2:45:19 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama sends note for Heavy D funeral

November 18, 2011

Heavy D was remembered with laughter and tears Friday during a star-studded funeral service that included Jay-Z and Will Smith, humorous anecdotes from longtime friend Diddy, and words of encouragement for his young daughter, delivered in a letter from President Barack Obama.

“We extend our heartfelt condolences at this difficult time. He will be remembered for his infectious optimism and many contributions to American music. Please know that you and your family will be in our thoughts and prayers,” read the Obama note, according to the Rev. Al Sharpton, who quoted from it during the service.

http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/music/obama_sends_note_for_heavy_funeral_44KG8Db6LRQgdZR58oHfPK#ixzz254GLRlvl


23 posted on 08/30/2012 2:46:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Sub-Driver

24 posted on 08/30/2012 2:49:30 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: brent13a

If the signatures are the same, then you have evidence of autopenning. If they are different, then you have zero evidence of autopenning. It’s as simple as that.

Maybe they could have loaded multiple, slightly different, signatures into the device, and then used them in order to fool people into thinking they were not autopenned. However, if you accuse them of that with no evidence, and in fact, the only evidence you can offer looks exactly like manual signatures, then you’re entering lunatic conspiracy theory territory.


25 posted on 08/30/2012 3:10:49 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Sub-Driver

All that for a flag.

FUBO and FUMO


26 posted on 08/30/2012 3:22:20 PM PDT by soycd
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To: napscoordinator

Only Rumsfeld was sending autopen letters. Bush’s were always hand signed.


27 posted on 08/30/2012 3:27:43 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: Sub-Driver

How can you tell if POTUS or his mouth piece, Jay Carney, are lying? Their lips are moving.


28 posted on 08/30/2012 3:28:11 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: brent13a
Have 3 or 4 or 20 different Obama signatures loaded into the Autopen SD card, lay in the stack of 20 form letters and hit "start". Then all the form letters look like they have different signatures. You don't think these crass a-holes wouldn't think that far ahead to have more than 1 signature in the AutoPen machine?

Is there any evidence that they were made by Autopen, or are we just assuming they were because Gateway Pundit said so (without citing any evidence)?

29 posted on 08/30/2012 3:33:36 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Sub-Driver

How can you tell if POTUS or his mouth piece, Jay Carney, are lying? Their lips are moving.


30 posted on 08/30/2012 3:33:38 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Sub-Driver
prolly a cut and paste .gif inserted into the letters...
31 posted on 08/30/2012 4:15:43 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Sub-Driver

They sigs look different to me. This assertion is flat out stupid, sheesh.


32 posted on 08/30/2012 5:03:13 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: Sub-Driver

HE was going to send them a video of HIM reading HIS letter from the TOTUS, but HE didn’t have time to record it. Also planned were several hundreds still shots of HIM playing BBall and golf. And a video of HIS last birthday party. And an autographed picture of HIM eating an ice cream cone. And a bronze-painted plaster bust of HIM. And several dozen “Obama 2012” bumper stickers. Again, a tight schedule prevented all of this.


33 posted on 08/30/2012 5:19:10 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Another lie. They lie about the little things, they lie about the big things.

Obamugabe is a liar.


34 posted on 08/30/2012 6:05:58 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Sub-Driver

Another lie. They lie about the little things, they lie about the big things.

Obamugabe is a liar.


35 posted on 08/30/2012 6:20:55 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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