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Texas high school to open $60M football stadium
AP ^ | August 30, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 08/30/2012 1:56:51 PM PDT by C19fan

Call it the palace of high school football: A gleaming $60 million facility with seats for 18,000 roaring fans, a 38-foot-wide high-definition video screen, corporate sponsors and a towering upper deck. Welcome to the new home of Eagles Football. As school districts across the country struggle to retain teachers, replace outdated textbooks and keep class sizes from ballooning, the wealthy, burgeoning Dallas suburb of Allen is preparing to christen its new stadium with a sold-out Friday night matchup against defending state champions Southlake Carroll.

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Mind you this was built by issuing voter approved bonds not alumni and boosters donating money. I come from an area where high school football means nothing. I understand HS football in Texas is huge but still I am shaking my head.
1 posted on 08/30/2012 1:57:01 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Having lived in Texas, I can tell you that High School Football is a rite, not unlike Communion or a Bris!


2 posted on 08/30/2012 1:58:28 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Do I really need a /s tag?)
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To: C19fan; cardinal4

But Penn State has a football culture problem.


3 posted on 08/30/2012 1:59:09 PM PDT by jb729
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To: C19fan

That’s what I call having your priorities in order.


4 posted on 08/30/2012 1:59:39 PM PDT by Leo58 (Those who cheer you today will curse you tomorrow, the only thing that endures is character.)
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To: C19fan

That’s what I call having your priorities in order.


5 posted on 08/30/2012 1:59:39 PM PDT by Leo58 (Those who cheer you today will curse you tomorrow, the only thing that endures is character.)
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To: C19fan

What business does a high school have using taxpayer funds for this? Soon after, they will begin clamoring that they need donations and new taxes to keep the art and music programs alive. Freakin’ unbelievable.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 1:59:49 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: C19fan

“I understand HS football in Texas is huge but still I am shaking my head.”

Is there a rattling noise? What’s wrong with the people in an area spending money on football, if it’s theirs?


7 posted on 08/30/2012 2:00:21 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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To: C19fan

I prefer to think of these as marching band theaters.


8 posted on 08/30/2012 2:00:48 PM PDT by LaserJock
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To: C19fan

Well the voters can vote for this facility if they are willing to pay for it with their property taxes. Texas has the cheapest houses around but very large property taxes. Obviously the Texans in this district feel that they can afford the taxes they are paying and possibly have them raised. Other districts crying about old books and over crowed school are irrelevant to this story and sole district.


9 posted on 08/30/2012 2:00:48 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: jessduntno

This stadium will bring in money for the school district.

In Texas, high school football is king!


10 posted on 08/30/2012 2:02:30 PM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: C19fan

It is a huge facility intended for multi-uses not just for football. They are planning concerts and other sporting events. Allen high school is one of the top football high schools in Texas. For Texans going to see a good high school football game is like attending a good minor league baseball game.


11 posted on 08/30/2012 2:03:28 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: napscoordinator
Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever

One good scenario, anyway, I was a Cain supporter. He would be a good fit with either one of those two, IMHO..

12 posted on 08/30/2012 2:03:28 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Do I really need a /s tag?)
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To: cardinal4
It's no wonder our property taxes are so freakin high.

This kinda thing just chaps my hide.

13 posted on 08/30/2012 2:03:57 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: basil
This stadium will bring in money for the school district.

And with Robin Hood, a lot of that money will wind up going to poorer districts.

14 posted on 08/30/2012 2:04:07 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: basil

The supporters of this stadium admit the revenues from it will not come close to covering the fixed costs of the stadium.


15 posted on 08/30/2012 2:04:38 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: cardinal4

I liked Cain alot too. I just haven’t seen him around lately. Now that you mention him, I kinda miss him. Hope all is ok with him. Obviously the stories of his harum was BS as not another peep about them once he dropped out.


16 posted on 08/30/2012 2:05:25 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: C19fan

They do love their football in Texas....


17 posted on 08/30/2012 2:06:07 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: basil

>>In Texas, high school football is king!<<

As anew Texan, may I ask one question:

WHY?


18 posted on 08/30/2012 2:07:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 97+% of the black vote)
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To: montanajoe
Apparently, Texans love spending other people's money on football even more.

The school district decided to build it in a down economy, knowing full well it will never recoup the costs.

19 posted on 08/30/2012 2:08:58 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: C19fan

Can they read, count back change, do long division? I walked into the library the other day and a teenage girl left the computer catalog to ask me how to spell circus.


20 posted on 08/30/2012 2:17:03 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: C19fan

It’s not just Texas, but ALL over the South, football even at the peewee level, is HUGE. It’s seen as a man-thing; as opposed to limp-wristed soccer up North, where non-athletes can “compete” in a game (not really a sport for athletes or men).


21 posted on 08/30/2012 2:23:41 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: huldah1776

Our northside ISD here in San Antonio now has a a BILLION dollar budget.


22 posted on 08/30/2012 2:24:14 PM PDT by shadeaud ( “Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8”. Just doing my duty a Christian)
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To: traditional1

Uh, we play lacrosse up North. Think of it as football, without as many of the girlie-man Southern padding.


23 posted on 08/30/2012 2:27:17 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: C19fan

I grew up in Texas. Football is ubiquitous in Texas. Pro football, college football, high school football, Pee-Wee football; in fact, every form of football except the original: European football, which most Texans believe to be a commie plot.


24 posted on 08/30/2012 2:27:49 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: 1rudeboy

“Apparently, Texans love spending other people’s money on football even more”

Well two thirds of the voters approved the bond issue from my experience down there I would have expected about 80% support.


25 posted on 08/30/2012 2:29:47 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: freedumb2003

As anew Texan, may I ask one question:

WHY?”

That is just the way it is. Same as it is in Oklahoma, Nebraska and Kansas, where I raised my kids. If you had a son and they didn’t play football, they were obviously butterfly collectors. Daughters were the cheerleaders or on the drill team. Keeps the boys as boys and the girls as girls.


26 posted on 08/30/2012 2:32:25 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: montanajoe
Hey, it's not a sacred government cow, unless it's your sacred government cow, right?
27 posted on 08/30/2012 2:33:00 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: basil

“This stadium will bring in money for the school district.”

Do you have an objective source that will back up you assertion that 60 million dollaf high school football stadiums earn money to a school district?

How do you think this school district will be able to pay off the 60 million dollar loan, finance maintance and insurance and turn a profit?


28 posted on 08/30/2012 2:36:25 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: 1rudeboy
Right..if I wasn't a born and bred Montana boy I'd be a Texan and loving my Friday nite HS football, BBQ and Lone Star brew..
29 posted on 08/30/2012 2:36:44 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: C19fan

I played for a smaller 3A team (Allen and The Dragons I think are 5A) in Texas in 69’ and 70’. Only one time did we play for a crowd smaller than 5000. Our ISD has revenue from oil wells. As a matter of fact, they ended up slant drilling a well right underneath the football field.


30 posted on 08/30/2012 2:36:50 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: basil

It is in the small Ohio town of Massillon, too.

Also kind of big in SW PA, too. That region has given the NFL many of its greatest quarterbacks.


31 posted on 08/30/2012 2:37:45 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I need a good stiff drink. How 'bout you?)
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To: montanajoe

I don’t really care whether you are a HS football fan, or not . . . but at first glance, this appears to be an unnecessary expenditure of taxpayer funds.


32 posted on 08/30/2012 2:41:33 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Grams A
If you had a son and they didn’t play football

A good argument for a big intramural program in which as many kids as possible get to put on the pads and play.

Not so good an argument for a $60 million stadium where maybe one in twenty of the male students will ever be on the field.

Full disclosure: I played baseball and wrestled in high school, never touched a football except for sandlot games.

33 posted on 08/30/2012 2:43:21 PM PDT by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: C19fan

And of course now Plano is going to want one just like it, then Southlake, and on and on...


34 posted on 08/30/2012 2:44:33 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: 1rudeboy

“at first glance, this appears to be an unnecessary expenditure of taxpayer funds”

Well two thirds of the tax payers voted for it. It may not be what two thirds of the taxpayers may have voted for in your neck of the woods but as they say the voters have spoken...


35 posted on 08/30/2012 2:45:08 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: C19fan

Good grief ... the media are having a field day with this one.

FWIW ... it’s not just a football stadium. The stadium itself is surrounded by offices, classrooms, exercise facilities, and so on. Those structures are included in the $60M tab.


36 posted on 08/30/2012 2:46:06 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: LaserJock
I prefer to think of these as marching band theaters.

As does the Allen High band ... the largest in the country.

37 posted on 08/30/2012 2:47:33 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: montanajoe

Funny, I heard the same argument about Obamacare just last week.


38 posted on 08/30/2012 2:47:37 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Oh yeah; lacrosse.

That's for those who participate in Curling in the off-season, right?

Two REALLY well-attended "sports".

39 posted on 08/30/2012 2:48:31 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: al_c

Gee, it might actually bring some community spirit to Allen, you know, where neighbors might actually know each other.


40 posted on 08/30/2012 2:49:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: 1rudeboy
“Funny, I heard the same argument about Obamacare just last week”

I missed that. the ongoing argument I heard was 2/3 of the taxpayers would vote against Obamacare..

41 posted on 08/30/2012 2:51:58 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: traditional1
Lacrosse = Curling. LOL

Apart from that, the "limp-wristedness" of a sport is determined by how many spectators watch? LOL, again.

I suppose I should have never played water polo . . . funny, that . . . we could never find any football players to play with us.

42 posted on 08/30/2012 2:52:19 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: dfwgator
And with Robin Hood, a lot of that money will wind up going to poorer districts.

Allen ISD has been on the receiving end of Robin Hood money for years. Neighboring Plano ISD has PAID over $1.2 BILLION in "recapture" since the Robin Hood system was initiated in 1994.

There are football palaces like this all over Texas, many in poor districts, that were paid for with Robin Hood money. Rather than having wealthier districts able to improve the educational experience of their kids, they were forced to fund whatever programs the poorer district chose to pay for. Including multi-million dollar stadiums.

Link to reference data.

Seating Chart

Stadium:

Stadium Parking:

#NotafanofRobinHood

43 posted on 08/30/2012 2:53:31 PM PDT by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: montanajoe

Just making a point, that you clearly missed.


44 posted on 08/30/2012 2:53:36 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: C19fan

45 posted on 08/30/2012 2:55:54 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: tpmintx

If what you are saying is true, that the stadium was funded with Robin Hood money, this is scandalous.


46 posted on 08/30/2012 2:55:58 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: 1rudeboy
“Just making a point, that you clearly missed”

I understand your point, You are saying those dumb old Texans and spending their tax dollars a way you don't like.

47 posted on 08/30/2012 2:56:55 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: traditional1

Lacrosse is third in attendance in the NCAA behind football and basketball. It’s also the fastest growing sport in America.


48 posted on 08/30/2012 2:57:37 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: montanajoe

So, how do you feel about Obamacare? LOL


49 posted on 08/30/2012 2:58:20 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tpmintx

And their logo looks a lot like the Philadelphia Eagles logo, not exactly very popular in these parts.


50 posted on 08/30/2012 2:59:12 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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