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Obama turning people away from liberalism and to the right
BI ^ | 08/30/2012 | Eric Zeusse

Posted on 08/30/2012 8:11:17 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote

Under President Obama, there has been an unprecedentedly sharp, and first-ever, switch, to preferring the Republican Party, over the Democratic Party. In fact, the damage that has been done to the Democratic brand during the Obama Presidency, going from a historically normal Democratic ratio of 1.38 in 2008, down 39% to the present abysmal .83, exceeds the Republican fall-offs under each of George W. Bush’s terms, which declined from the Republican ratio of 1.41 in 2000, down 18% to 1.16 in 2004, and then down yet another 31% to the unprecedented low .80 in 2008, which virtually doomed the campaign of Presidential candidate John McCain, and made Obama’s win almost inevitable.

The Democratic brand has thus suffered even more (down 39%) under Obama than the Republican brand suffered under either one of George W. Bush’s terms (-16%, then -31%).

Though George W. Bush did major harm to the Republican brand, Barack Obama is out-doing him, hurting even steeper the Democratic brand, which historically (until now) has always been higher-valued than the Republican brand, not just in these pre-convention polls, but for decades in Party-allegiance.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho2012; dncstrategy
LOL!!!!!!

FUBO!!!!!!!

1 posted on 08/30/2012 8:11:24 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: GlockThe Vote

Let’s hope President Mitt doesn’t turn the tide the other way. All politicians make promises they can’t keep, the sheeple believe them, and when unicorns that poop Skittles don’t arrive on their doorstep, they turn to the other side again and believe their promises. It may be a continuing see-saw unless people finally wise up and figure out that government can’t solve their problems nor make them wealthy.

Yes, I a am a pessimist.


2 posted on 08/30/2012 8:15:43 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

me too, but let’s let Obama collapse the democRAT party first and then deal w mittens.


3 posted on 08/30/2012 8:23:31 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote
NPR reported on this today — they never went anywhere close to the obvious conclusion that maybe some folks no longer like Democrats, and may have developed positive feelings toward Republicans. Nope. No way. The thought never entered their little minds. NPR simply focused on polling anomalies, and population shifts into areas where people didn't get asked the right questions, and people playing games with pollsters. They had a million reasons why this data meant absolutely nothing. Move along, citizen. Nothing to see here.
4 posted on 08/30/2012 8:23:31 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I'm not voting for Romney. The Grand Old Whig Party doesn't own my vote and failed to earn it.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Obama is an albatross to The left.


5 posted on 08/30/2012 8:24:28 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Obama had lots of help too. Pelosi and Reed furthered the collapse of the Democrat advantage.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 8:44:53 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Pining_4_TX

Really? Did you hear Gov Romney promise to lower the seas?


7 posted on 08/30/2012 8:46:47 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: UB355

RATbama is the gift that keeps on giving.


8 posted on 08/30/2012 8:48:56 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Finally, something the historians will be able to claim Obama was best at.


9 posted on 08/30/2012 9:06:00 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

Obama lost NJ for Corzine.
Obama lost Chicago for the Olympics
Obama lost WIS for the Demos
Obama lost Mass Sen seat to GOP
Obama lost Hpuse to GOP.

He is a disaster for the RAT party and I pray they stick w him.


10 posted on 08/30/2012 9:12:21 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

This is the trend that Republicans should encourage. The Republican party can grow by convincing more liberals to become conservative, NOT by convincing more Democrats to become Republican. In the first instance, you’ve changed people’s thinking and appealed to them on a philosophical level, but in the latter, only a partisan level.

That is the fatal flaw of “big tent” Republicanism where you compromise principal to lure new people into your fold - at its core it’s an attempt to lure voters via partisanship rather than appeal to their desire to live free.


11 posted on 08/30/2012 9:27:06 PM PDT by LaserJock
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To: ClearCase_guy
NPR reported on this today — they never went anywhere close to the obvious conclusion that maybe some folks no longer like Democrats, and may have developed positive feelings toward Republicans.

You really need to read the entire article. The author is a left-wing kook of the first order -- who is convinced that the country has given up on liberal democracy and is converting to right-wing fascism.

He conflates "small government" with a "dictatorship".

Zeusse is clearly a goofball. It's hilarious that his inchoate thoughts are being passed off as serious material.

12 posted on 08/30/2012 9:29:27 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

Whatever it os - even leftists are starting to realize gaybama is an albatross.


13 posted on 08/30/2012 9:47:54 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Pining_4_TX
It may be true that all politicians make promises they cannot keep but I wonder if Mitt might be an exception.

During the convention airing tonight, one of Mitt's cabinet members (when he was gov) said that the first mtg they had, Mitt wrote down all of the 25 different campaign promises he had made on a board (photo of this was shown) and dealt with each promise, one by one, during his term as govenor?

Damn impressive.

Think maybe this man actually means what he says-rather shocking concept in the political arena.

14 posted on 08/30/2012 11:06:14 PM PDT by Republic (Keep uhbama desperate - seems to force slips of honesty from his angry interior)
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To: Republic
one of Mitt's cabinet members (when he was gov) said that the first mtg they had, Mitt wrote down all of the 25 different campaign promises he had made on a board (photo of this was shown) and dealt with each promise, one by one, during his term as govenor

Are you aware of Romney's uber liberal 'accomplishments' while he was Governor of Massachusetts? I highly doubt that he was elected on the strength of promising the voters $50 abortions on demand, an assault weapons ban, mandated gay 'marriage', a worsened economy, higher unemployment, and a totalitarian, state-run health care system.

If he has any intention on pushing for the same goals as president of the US, then I hope he fails.

15 posted on 08/30/2012 11:25:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
...no not a pessimist...

just stating reality. The sheeple, I hope will one day wake up from their stupor and get back to work at living the American Dream.

16 posted on 08/31/2012 12:54:58 AM PDT by Conservative4Ever (The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
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To: GlockThe Vote

What we are meant to take from this is that both parties inspire the same lack of confidence after a few years in power, although Obama has perfected the art.


17 posted on 08/31/2012 2:40:42 AM PDT by hannibaal
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To: GlockThe Vote

“...which virtually doomed the campaign of Presidential candidate John McCain,...”
Now, that there is pretty funny!


18 posted on 08/31/2012 2:57:59 AM PDT by Fireone (It's nice to have a couple adults in the room, for a change!)
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To: GlockThe Vote
We are heading away from democracy, into the far-right: fascism.

Why is that? The author is keen to oblige us with his answer:

... Starting with Ronald Reagan’s First Inaugural Address saying, “Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.” Of course, in a dictatorship, what Reagan said is true. But saying this in a democracy is condemning not dictatorship, but really democracy itself.

Who knew? Certainly not the founders who thought they were preserving democracy by limiting government. Little did they know they had it backwards.


19 posted on 08/31/2012 3:01:30 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Bush...6 years of totally nonstop, totally unhinged, vitriolic and vicious media attacks on a good man.
Obama...4 years of nonstop media propaganda and boosterism.

Yet Obama destroys the Dem brand almost as much as Bush (ie, the media) “damaged” the Rep brand...in half the time.

This is an amazing backstory and portends well for November.


20 posted on 08/31/2012 4:20:10 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I mock the democrats I know for sticking w this con man.


21 posted on 08/31/2012 4:29:22 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Pining_4_TX

But Romney has a proven track record of success. A successful marriage, success at turning struggling companies around, success at saving the Olympics. And something sorely lacking in Obama- he’s obviously a very hard worker.


22 posted on 08/31/2012 4:37:57 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: ClearCase_guy

noting to see?? Read this nonsense in the post by the author!!

Obama is a Republican at heart, but he decided (probably in 1996) to enter politics as a Democrat, because there would be no way for him to become the first black President as a self-acknowledged conservative and Republican. As President, he negotiated in congress more with Boehner than with either Pelosi or Reid, and he did that right at the start, when Democrats dominated in both houses. It’s too much to go into here; but, in any case, I nowhere said that Obama is liberal. I consider him fairly conservative, conservative enough to want the Republicans to control Congress, even though that requires him to negotiate much harder with Boehner and McConnell than he would have to negotiate with Pelosi and Reid if he were a liberal. But my interpretation of Obama’s motivation isn’t even part of this article; all it discusses about him is that the nation has veered even farther to the right during his Presidency, something that loads of polls document.


23 posted on 08/31/2012 5:36:38 AM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: griswold3

The mind boggles..


24 posted on 08/31/2012 5:40:59 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: griswold3; All
Read this nonsense in the post by the author!!
Obama is a Republican at heart, but he decided (probably in 1996)
to enter politics as a Democrat, because there would be no way
for him to become the first black President as a self-acknowledged
conservative and Republican
.
that's a hellva hook there, talking about piquing(sp?) some interest there. :-)
it's a very delusional (funny/weird) piece of diatribe.

25 posted on 08/31/2012 6:04:13 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: Windflier
I am sure we all would hope that.

I was talking about him being a man of his word. Nothing more.

26 posted on 08/31/2012 9:22:58 PM PDT by Republic (Keep uhbama desperate - seems to force slips of honesty from his angry interior)
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To: Republic
I was talking about him being a man of his word. Nothing more.

Get real. That leopard isn't about to change his spots, no matter what promises he's making to get your vote.

27 posted on 09/01/2012 6:21:50 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
I was referring to the the black female democrat who was invited to sit on romney's cabinet in Mass. When this woman spoke at the convention-she told of her first meeting with romney, and the first meeting of the cabinet.

At that cabinet meeting, romney wrote down all of his campaign promises-25 of them ( and windflier I am not speaking to the detail of the promises, I don't know what they were and neither do you, I imagine). He then systematically addressed each promise throughout his term of office.

I am speaking to your comment that no politician fulfills his promises from his or her respective campaigns.

Apparently, in Mass. Romney did fulfill every single campaign promise.

But don't let the topic of my post get in your way.

28 posted on 09/01/2012 7:07:30 PM PDT by Republic (Keep uhbama desperate - seems to force slips of honesty from his angry interior)
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To: Windflier
I was referring to the the black female democrat who was invited to sit on romney's cabinet in Mass. When this woman spoke at the convention-she told of her first meeting with romney, and the first meeting of the cabinet.

At that cabinet meeting, romney wrote down all of his campaign promises-25 of them ( and windflier I am not speaking to the detail of the promises, I don't know what they were and neither do you, I imagine). He then systematically addressed each promise throughout his term of office.

I am speaking to your comment that no politician fulfills his promises from his or her respective campaigns.

Apparently, in Mass. Romney did fulfill every single campaign promise.

But don't let the topic of my post get in your way.

29 posted on 09/01/2012 7:07:34 PM PDT by Republic (Keep uhbama desperate - seems to force slips of honesty from his angry interior)
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To: Republic
Apparently, in Mass. Romney did fulfill every single campaign promise.

According to who? As you say, neither you or I know what those campaign promises were, so what are we talking about here? I don't even get where the claim is coming from. Who said this?

30 posted on 09/01/2012 7:32:44 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
I do not remember her name. She spoke on the platform at the RNC convention. She called herself a liberal democrat. She was called by Mitt Romney to be a part of his cabinet when he was governor.

At their full cabinet session-he used an eraser board and wrote down every single campaign promise he had made during his campaign to be governor.

He then informed his cabinet that he would be addressing (responding to) each promise during his tenure and resolving each issue. He did. Photos of this meeting and the written promises were shown on the large screen behind her as she spoke.She, the speaker, SAID this was her experience working with him-that he was and is a man of his word.

And btw- half of his cabinet were women and the woman I am writing about was black. So much for the dem attack that republicans have a war on women.

31 posted on 09/02/2012 2:28:51 PM PDT by Republic (Keep uhbama desperate - seems to force slips of honesty from his angry interior)
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