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Why & How To Support Romney/Ryan
Truth Based Logic ^ | August 31, 2012 | William Flax

Posted on 08/31/2012 10:47:15 AM PDT by Ohioan

From Virtual Endorsement To Active Support

Our "virtual" endorsement was primarily premised upon two concepts:

1. The critical need to arrest the loss of Liberty, heritage & the remaining fruits of eight generations' labor.

2. The reality of Gov. Romney's demonstrated ability as a "problem solver"--the implied ability to look at all aspects of a situation. The suggestion was that we could move Romney to the right by working on his strengths; by polite, patient & persistent appeal for him to use that perceptual ability, employed to succeed in business & in saving the Winter Olympics, a decade ago, with respect to issues where he has clearly not been on our side in the past. The premise was that our side was based on truth; truth that would become increasingly clear to anyone taking the time to fully analyze the factors, both apparent & not so apparent, in the full context of causation with respect to any situation requiring attention.

The selection of Congressman Paul Ryan for "running-mate," in an election where the fiscal management of Government was to be the prime issue, confirmed our point. It demonstrated that capacity as a "problem solver." Thus, remaining focused on such primary concepts, we now fully endorse Gov. Romney & Congressman Ryan. We will actively support their candidacy. Yet consistent with the same premises--recognizing that there remain issues, every bit as important as the economy, on which we are not on the same course--we will also work to move the candidates further in a traditional Conservative direction. Yet how to do so?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservative; political; romney; ryan
In view of the increasing evidence that Gov. Romney is slowly moving to the right, we are upping the previous "virtual" endorsement, to a flat out commitment.

Let's get the needed job done!

1 posted on 08/31/2012 10:47:19 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
The RNC did the job. Now we must do our part in representing the truth that makes America free. One Nation under God. We shine light while the Dems stew in their own vile juices.
2 posted on 08/31/2012 10:51:36 AM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: Ohioan

Romney is getting my vote and that is way more than the liberal deserves.


3 posted on 08/31/2012 10:57:16 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: Armaggedon
The Obama "Democrats" will pull out the stops in vicious, hate stirring antics over the next 9 1/2 weeks. Everything that they can do to promote jealousy & envy; everything that they can do to blame the successful for the failure of others; everything that they can do to intimidate dissent from what they have already done; all will be on the table.

We are going to be tested. America will not be recognizable, if we fail.

William Flax

4 posted on 08/31/2012 10:58:24 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: napscoordinator
Romney is getting my vote and that is way more than the liberal deserves.

He really is not that "liberal," in the sense that you appear to be using it--that is, in the modern, misused sense, of a big Government fanatic, trying to make Government the answer to any problem.

Surely you liked the distinction that he made, last night, in putting the interests of the American family ahead of Obama's grand schemes to pander to the paranoid environmentalists. (Just the latest example that his underlying values are conservative.)

William Flax

5 posted on 08/31/2012 11:03:16 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

William,
I am sure that he will be fine on some fiscal issues, but he is way more to the left on gay marriage, abortion and other issues I have problems with. He is closer to the Democrats on social issuses big time. However, I will vote for him, but that is it.
Bob


6 posted on 08/31/2012 11:06:31 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: napscoordinator
Anything that suggested that Gov. Romney was a supporter of the things that you (and I, for that matter) "have problems" with, has either been abandoned in his move to the right, or what appeared to be, merely reflected his social conservatism, in being tolerant of what the people in Massachusetts clearly favored.

Much of the projected Romney image at the Convention was as a family man; a man steeped in the multi-generational concept of the family. If he has not been more outspoken against the oxymoron of "same-sex marriage," it may only indicate that that has not been his focus. As a rational "problem solver," he addresses problems by looking at all relevant factors. Do you want him to focus on the problem caused by those pursuing a militant agenda against traditional family values? That is precisely the point of my article, that is linked to this post.

Instead of insulting the man; why not try to steer--to politely steer--the discussion in a direction that may induce those not militantly committed to evil, to reconsider their sometime appearance of toleration for it.

This is essential, in any event. Whether we succeed with the Governor, or not, we have to reach out to reclaim a large segment of the youth, who have been misled in American High Schools & Colleges.

William Flax

7 posted on 08/31/2012 11:23:23 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

he is not THAT liberal???

oh please....

check his record..

he makes clintoon look like a centrist..

everything fubo is trying to do, he has already done..

if you are stumping for people to hold their nose and vote for him, at least have the guts to put it that way...


8 posted on 08/31/2012 11:28:16 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: joe fonebone
everything fubo is trying to do, he has already done..

Prove It or Shove It

9 posted on 08/31/2012 11:32:36 AM PDT by Chunga (Ron Paul is a fruitcakey jackass.)
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To: Chunga

enacted gun control ( assault weapons ban ) in his state after the federal one expired..

signed mcromney care into law ( the father of fubocare )

appointed 28 left wing liberals to the state courts

champion of the 50 dollar on demand abortion

supported gay rights

raised taxes and increased regulations

corruption and ineptitude ( think of the big dig )

there, i have proved it..

and these are just the warm ups..

now you can take your socialist crap and spew it elsewhere..

in other words, YOU shove it..


10 posted on 08/31/2012 12:16:12 PM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: joe fonebone
I will not respond to your angry tone, in a thread where I am urging a polite, persistent & persuasive campaign, to reach those who are not frothing Leftists. (To Support Romney/Ryan.)

The corruption of education in our High Schools & Colleges has created a situation that forces us to try to convert all those who are not hate driven advocates of revolutionary dogma.

Thus, I will only politely point out to you that Massachusetts has long been a center of meddlesome reform movements. That a former Governor went along with some of them, when he was the public servant of the people, there, is not a basis for demonizing him, when he has obviously already rejected much of what you set forth. If you will not recognize the possibility of redemption, you have effectively greatly reduced your options as to how to fight for Conservative values.

Incidentally, the rights of the States to have different--very different--social perspectives, is inherent in the Federal system, that is the bed rock of American Conservatism.

But again, I will not respond to you in an angry tone.

William Flax

11 posted on 08/31/2012 12:33:10 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Chunga

How about RomneyCare, same sex marriage, cap & trade, same sex adoptions, forcing Catholic hospitals to provide abortions, taxpayer funded free abortions, closing down coal run business stating he will not let them kill any more people, new gun control regulations. He raised the revenue collected and called them fees so he could say he did not raise taxes, etc.etc. etc. I am forced to hope he wins but at least I will do it with open eyes.


12 posted on 08/31/2012 12:33:37 PM PDT by brightright
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To: napscoordinator; cripplecreek
Romney is getting my vote and that is way more than the liberal deserves.

Who are you and what have you done with napscoordinator? Et tu, Cripplecreek?

13 posted on 08/31/2012 12:35:39 PM PDT by Dysart (Borrowed, spent and wasted --Paul Ryan)
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To: Dysart

Who are you and what have you done with napscoordinator? Et tu, Cripplecreek?

lol. I am weak....the FREEPERS are beating me down.


14 posted on 08/31/2012 12:48:04 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: Dysart

I still stand.


15 posted on 08/31/2012 1:12:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Ohioan

Let’s get the needed job done!


16 posted on 08/31/2012 1:23:04 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Bump


17 posted on 09/01/2012 11:49:08 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: napscoordinator; Dysart

Wow, naps. I was getting the impression that you were really an Obama plant on FR! Please accept my apologies!


18 posted on 09/01/2012 12:03:53 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

I know right? Winnowing the list..

Just arrived for showing of 2016. Much excitement, place is packed.


19 posted on 09/01/2012 12:16:32 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: Ohioan

The last 24 hours have provided further confirmation of the soundness of the approach that I have advocated in this thread!


20 posted on 09/01/2012 12:52:57 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan
In view of the increasing evidence that Gov. Romney is slowly moving to the right

There is no such evidence, beyond empty, lying campaign rhetoric.

But there is much evidence that he is already retreating to who and what he really is: a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual liberal.

His CBS interview a few days ago made this abundantly clear.

21 posted on 09/01/2012 1:08:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day Christians stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: sam_paine

lol. No problem. I can understand why you thought that but really I just want what’s best for the United States.


22 posted on 09/01/2012 1:13:26 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Your one or two issue fanaticism is actually hurting those very causes. Romney's statement the other day was a reasoned qualification. You may disagree with it--fine. You can certainly argue for a more absolute standard. But when you show such contempt for anyone who disagrees with you, you trigger a closed-minded, negative reaction, from those who only partially agree with you. That is not how to convince people.

The idea of forcing a young woman to bear a violent rapist's baby is offensive to a great many people. myself included.

23 posted on 09/01/2012 1:40:09 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Bump as continuing to grow in relevance!


24 posted on 09/05/2012 11:41:28 AM PDT by Ohioan
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