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DOJ Targeted Public Library for Lending E-Books 'Inaccessible' to the Blind
Cybercast News Service ^ | 8/31/12 | Elizabeth Harrington

Posted on 08/31/2012 12:48:08 PM PDT by Nachum

The U.S. Justice Department says it has reached a settlement with the Sacramento (California) Public Library over a trial program the library was conducting that let patrons borrow Barnes and Noble NOOK e-book readers. DOJ and the National Federation of the Blind objected to the program on grounds that blind people could not use the NOOK e-readers for technological reasons. The Justice Department said the settlement is aimed at stopping discrimination: “Emerging technologies like e-readers are changing the way we interact with the world around us and we need to ensure that people with disabilities are not

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Yeah, how dare they offer books to people who can read.
1 posted on 08/31/2012 12:48:15 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 08/31/2012 12:49:36 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

We must punish the majority, because of a inability of the minority to use things. Let’s sue the DOT for making roadsk bridges, ferries and traffic lights, that those in a coma cannot use.


3 posted on 08/31/2012 12:50:15 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Nachum

Wow. This isn’t satire.


4 posted on 08/31/2012 12:50:42 PM PDT by Texican72
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To: Nachum

"My Executive Order today will allow the DOJ
to burn all of America's libraries
to the ground. Today, libraries. Tomorrow. the Internet."

5 posted on 08/31/2012 12:51:06 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Nachum

Idiots.


6 posted on 08/31/2012 12:52:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Nachum

I don’t recall ever seeing any library with half its shelf space filled with Braille books.

Pull the readers out of circulation, then.


7 posted on 08/31/2012 12:52:18 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Nachum

Cripes! Next they’ll take cars away from us because blind people can’t drive.


8 posted on 08/31/2012 12:53:08 PM PDT by katnip (Freaks and Fairies are running amuck in America)
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To: Nachum

The comments on the site are funny and spot-on.

For example, how dare the DMV issue driver’s licenses to seeing individuals when the blind can’t drive?


9 posted on 08/31/2012 12:53:18 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Nachum

I see a new gubmint program:

issue library glasses to everyone that makes their vision blurry so they all see like people with cataracts or advanced macular degeneration.

make it law via “disparate impact”. pat yourself on the back for making the world more “fair”.


10 posted on 08/31/2012 12:53:36 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Nachum

Okay, Hertz and Dollar rent cars to people who can see, but not to blind people.............


11 posted on 08/31/2012 12:54:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: katnip

I can remember when a legally blind man applied for a job as a UPS driver.

They told him he didn’t qualify because he was legally blind.

He sued UPS with the ‘Americans Disabilities Act for support.

The California judge threw it all out of court.

Those were the good old days!!!


12 posted on 08/31/2012 12:55:00 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Nachum

Translation:

Taxpayer funds EXTORTED from Sacramento Library & taken by Feds.


13 posted on 08/31/2012 12:56:17 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Nachum

Must maximize the number of people dependent on the gov’t......


14 posted on 08/31/2012 12:56:33 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: Nachum

Does the drive-thru menu at McDonalds have braille?


15 posted on 08/31/2012 12:57:18 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Nachum

Sounds like they need to crack down on GM for building cars that the blind can’t drive.


16 posted on 08/31/2012 12:58:02 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Nachum

That would be a technology issue with the Nook, not libraries. ADA requires ‘reasonable’ accommodations be made. If the books can be downloaded and read on another device such as through a JAWS reader, then the case for reasonable accommodation is clear.


17 posted on 08/31/2012 12:59:51 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Hodar

And, highway signs that can’t be read by the blind.


18 posted on 08/31/2012 1:00:37 PM PDT by Brookhaven (The Democratic Party has become the Beclowning Party)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Why is there braille on the driveup window at the auto-teller?

A lot of blind people using the drivethru?

Leftism => the opposite of common sense.


19 posted on 08/31/2012 1:01:00 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Nachum

you know it’s really bad when you read the headline, scan the paragraph and look to see if this is john semmes satire before continuing and it gets worse when you see it isn’t satire.


20 posted on 08/31/2012 1:01:22 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (if the little things really annoy you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: Nachum

So, if I can’t use an item, NOBODY should? Morons.


21 posted on 08/31/2012 1:01:41 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: katnip
Cripes! Next they’ll take cars away from us because blind people can’t drive.

Sshhhhhh.... don't give them any ideas.

22 posted on 08/31/2012 1:02:02 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: bravo whiskey
you know it’s really bad when you read the headline, scan the paragraph and look to see if this is john semmes satire before continuing and it gets worse when you see it isn’t satire.

Well- I for one, will PRETEND it is satire anyway.

Where is my beer? (I know I left it here somewhere)

23 posted on 08/31/2012 1:04:07 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Do Kindles like PCs have an app that will read the book aloud?


24 posted on 08/31/2012 1:05:20 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup
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To: Nachum

I am not positive that the option is available on the Nook, but on the Kindle e-book reader you can set it to auto read almost any book as an audio book. Not that actual facts mean anything to the DOJ under Holder.


25 posted on 08/31/2012 1:06:04 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008BAL1OK/)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Never heard of one. Recorded audio books are the only ones I know of. There is voice activated software, but don’t know any for books.


26 posted on 08/31/2012 1:06:49 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

I wish they’d include the names of the DOJ officials involved in things like this, so that when its time to scale back the goobermint, they will have done half the work for us.


27 posted on 08/31/2012 1:13:09 PM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: Nachum; All
NOOK supports Text-to-Speech where publishers have granted permission for their books to be virtually read aloud.

Maybe the library's mistake was not going with the Kindle from Amazon as it's clear DOJ are Amazon's enforcers against competitors.

28 posted on 08/31/2012 1:13:56 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 67 days away.)
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To: Nachum

If I read the article correctly (and if I can’t I’ll sue!!!) the complainant went directly to the DOJ, never talking to the library folk. I suspect ADA activism and wonder if there was a cash award involved. Rather than fight this on procedural grounds, it seems the city went straight to caving. After all, it is far easier to furlough the employees than to say “enough is enough.” Isn’t all that’s required is a reasonable accommodation? Here’s your free subscription to audible.com. Why must each and every device be all things to all people?


29 posted on 08/31/2012 1:15:55 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Taranto: "The whole point of the metaphor is that if you can hear the whistle, you're the dog.")
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To: mnehring; stocksthatgoup
As I mention in
30 posted on 08/31/2012 1:18:42 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 66 days away.)
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To: bravo whiskey

Bingo! My husband was reading me something from an article recently, and I said, “Is the author John Semmens?” because it sounded one of his pieces. But no, just like this, it was “real news.”


31 posted on 08/31/2012 1:31:56 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Now a hit television series starring Judi Dench!)
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To: ridesthemiles
I can remember when a legally blind man applied for a job as a UPS driver.

Over here at the Jersey Shore, some years back,There was a legally blind guy from Belmar who won 5 million in the lottery. First thing he did was buy a new SUV.

32 posted on 08/31/2012 1:37:22 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: Nachum

Not accessible enough, will burn immediately!

Isn't it ironic that in the Future of Farenheight 451 that very few people can read....

33 posted on 08/31/2012 1:39:27 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: Nachum
on grounds that blind people could not use the NOOK e-readers

So how are dead tree books any different in that regard?

By this logic, the library should only be stocked with braille and audio materials. Except that people with hearing problems would prefer a dead tree book or a NOOK.

It's obviously impossible to be fair. Best to just close all the libraries.

34 posted on 08/31/2012 1:40:07 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Nachum

I’d like to countersue for not including readable type with Braille books.

I’ll “see” you in court.....

(Hope no one reads this and is offended)...

RLTW


35 posted on 08/31/2012 1:43:10 PM PDT by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: newzjunkey

What a BUNCH of G-Damned BS!!!

Libraries already have programs for the blind for books on tape!!!!!

What is next a blind person suing apple for being unable to use their iPhone?

A deaf person suing the Library because the books on tape are inaccessible????

It is CRAZY!!!!

Stuipid regulations and run amock government agencies like this LIMIT CHOICES the free market gives us not expands them....


36 posted on 08/31/2012 1:45:24 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: katnip
Next they’ll take cars away from us because blind people can’t drive.

Maybe they'll let us keep cars if they put Braille speedometers on them.

Braille chainsaws are coming next.

37 posted on 08/31/2012 1:48:08 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: newzjunkey
Text-to-Speech where publishers have granted permission for their books to be virtually read aloud.

Ah-ha! Sue the publishers for not granting permissions.

38 posted on 08/31/2012 1:50:10 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: BlatherNaut
It's obviously impossible to be fair. Best to just close all the libraries.

Maybe it'd be best to shoot all the politicians and most lawyers (litigators only, please - leave us mere Estate Planners alone). Then the normal people could resume life as it should be.

Honestly, how ABSURD is it that you cannot help a majority of those in the general public unless you help EVERYONE in exactly the same way?

39 posted on 08/31/2012 1:54:51 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: Nachum

Trying renting out a house with an ad that says, “Lovely view!”

Lawyers working for these people will be at your door in 10 minutes.

Or, “Ideal for a young couple.” What about single people?

Or, “Short walk to bus stop.” That makes people in wheelchairs feel unwelcome.

Think these are jokes? I know people who have had the fair housing Nazis come after them for these very things.

About all you can say is, “House for rent.”


40 posted on 08/31/2012 1:57:46 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Brookhaven
And, highway signs that can’t be read by the blind.

Don't give them any ideas!

41 posted on 08/31/2012 2:01:50 PM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: katnip

“Cripes! Next they’ll take cars away from us because blind people can’t drive.”

Heck, let the blind drive. The problem will resolve itself in a few days. :)


42 posted on 08/31/2012 2:10:59 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: Ancesthntr

“leave us mere Estate Planners alone”

If Obama continues as president, our estates will continue to evaporate and you will become a victim of attrition. :-o


43 posted on 08/31/2012 2:15:08 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Nachum
Yeah, how dare they offer books to people who can read.

LOL. Don't worry, the DMV is next.

44 posted on 08/31/2012 2:23:17 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: Nachum

Don’t know about Nook but my Kindle will read to me. It’s without nuance and emotion, but it definitely reads to me.


45 posted on 08/31/2012 2:29:03 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Nachum

What about those books on tape? Those have been out for years but I don’t “see” deaf patrons throwing fits.


46 posted on 08/31/2012 2:29:59 PM PDT by bgill
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To: FoxInSocks

My mother was legally blind and could order books on tape free of charge from the State Library for the Blind in our state capital.
They loaned her a special tape player and sent large print catalogs. There was no postage either. The books were varied and current. But you need a specail form filled out by your doctor to receive this service. It IS NOT AVAILABLE to sighted people. I don’t think that is discrimination.


47 posted on 08/31/2012 2:40:28 PM PDT by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: Nachum

This is the pernicious mission creep from the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) and an activist executive branch (DoJ) along with a single interest public pressure group, AFB (American Federation for the Blind). It is a good example of using a broadsword to slice a tomato.

This was a pilot project with private assistance from B&N using their eReader, yet the US Government charges in to ‘protect’ the visually handicapped. Is this progress or is this dictatorship?

F.Y.I. this kind of thing is why I FEAR and LOATHE Obamacare. It is not just what is hiding in those 2.000+ pages, it is what activists can glean from its penumbras and intentions!


48 posted on 08/31/2012 2:46:28 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: TurboZamboni

Who do you think you are - Diana Moon-Glampers?


49 posted on 08/31/2012 3:18:21 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: sima_yi
Next on the DOJ hit list: Strip clubs because the disabled customers cannot see the dancers. And the dancers refuse to have Braille tattooed to certain areas of their bodies.
Once again the Statist believe in the equality of outcomes.They will not be satisfied until we are like North Korea or Cuba where everyone is equal and has nothing of their own.
50 posted on 08/31/2012 3:22:19 PM PDT by 02000a
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