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Ex-Marine Kills Two, Self in NJ Supermarket Shootout
Associated Press / NBC 5 Dallas-Fort Worth ^ | August 31, 2012 | By Brynn Gingras, Jonathan Dienst, Brian Thompson and Katherine Creag

Posted on 08/31/2012 4:56:08 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement

An ex-Marine killed two coworkers and himself Friday morning after bursting through the glass windows of a closed New Jersey supermarket with an AK-47 and automatic handgun, officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcdfw.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: marine; murders; shooting; supermarket; tyler
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The emphasis was placed on "ex-Marine" as some sort of barometer by the writers.
1 posted on 08/31/2012 4:56:13 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

It just as easily could have read, “Ex-Public School Student Kills...”


2 posted on 08/31/2012 5:00:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Quoting the linked article:
"Tyler, formerly of Brooklyn but living in Old Ridge, served in the U.S. Marine Corps from 2008 to 2010, a Marines spokesman said. Tyler was a lance corporal and rifleman, who received two medals and never served overseas, the spokesman said."
recently served, earned 2 medals, never deployed overseas hmmm.
3 posted on 08/31/2012 5:01:18 PM PDT by wtd
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To: wtd

...and only 2 years served?


4 posted on 08/31/2012 5:04:16 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: wtd

Its Bush’s fault


5 posted on 08/31/2012 5:05:01 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: EEGator

That is odd.


6 posted on 08/31/2012 5:05:45 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: ConservativeStatement

And only when the “x” was a former member of a service unit that emphasizes combat and weapons training.


7 posted on 08/31/2012 5:07:47 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: ConservativeStatement; wtd
served in the U.S. Marine Corps from 2008 to 2010

There are no two year enlistments in the Marines. The minimum is 4 years.

He got an early discharge for some reason.

I am guessing he was discharged on a mental disability.

8 posted on 08/31/2012 5:08:11 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: wtd

Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, and the National Defense Service Medal

Defense Medal is usually given after basic, I don’t know the Global War terms


9 posted on 08/31/2012 5:08:27 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: greatvikingone

Only 2 years? Bet he was discharged for mental problems. some folks can make it thru the psych eval even when they’re broken.


10 posted on 08/31/2012 5:08:27 PM PDT by blu
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To: wtd

Well, there is one medal that fits.

The Purple Barney.


11 posted on 08/31/2012 5:12:01 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: ConservativeStatement

“....and automatic handgun....”

.
Hmmm, where can I get one?


12 posted on 08/31/2012 5:12:29 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: wtd

One of them could have been the National Defense Service medal that all members of the armed services receive upon graduation from boot camp.


13 posted on 08/31/2012 5:13:57 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: 353FMG

Yeah, is that one of those handguns where you just pull the trigger once and it automatically empties the magazine for you?


14 posted on 08/31/2012 5:16:57 PM PDT by Argus
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To: ConservativeStatement
with an AK-47 and automatic handgun

I'm gonna guess neither rifle or handgun was automatic.

15 posted on 08/31/2012 5:19:33 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Doogle
I don’t know the Global War terms

It is awarded for being on active duty during the period of the award. Basically for being in the military at the time. Much akin the the NDSM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_War_on_Terrorism_Service_Medal

16 posted on 08/31/2012 5:22:19 PM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rjsimmon

ok thanks


17 posted on 08/31/2012 5:24:09 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Argus
Sounds perfect to go with the Driver less cars just approved
for the road in California.
18 posted on 08/31/2012 5:24:39 PM PDT by funfan
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To: ConservativeStatement

HOW CAN THIS BE???

AK-47s ARE STRICTLY FORBIDDEN IN NJ!!

As for that “automatic” handgun, just wow, gotta get me one!!

Oh, that’s right, “automatic” handguns are forbidden too!

The dude must have had a Tea-Party connection! Only thing that makes sense.


19 posted on 08/31/2012 5:26:26 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
The killer looked liked he could have been a son of Obama, if Obama had a son.
The victims were both Caucasian.

There is no USA DOD military service term of two years.

Just another random non-hate crime, hate crime.

20 posted on 08/31/2012 5:27:53 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: ConservativeStatement
He could have benefited from Moochelle's new Supermarket Shopping 101 course.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

21 posted on 08/31/2012 5:27:53 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: blu

I’ll second that bet.

Marines, contrary to popular moron belief, get rid of psychos as fast as they find them.

And they can usually spot a misfit from at least 1,000 yards.


22 posted on 08/31/2012 5:29:55 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: Pontiac
Christine Lo Brutto, 18, and Bryan Breen, 24, were killed, officials said.

Terrible that he killed these two young people (and he obviously wanted to kill others).

It does say in the article that he "may have had a history of mental illness or depression," so I think that answers the question of why he was only in the Marines for 2 years.

23 posted on 08/31/2012 5:32:22 PM PDT by livius
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To: ConservativeStatement

***The emphasis was placed on “ex-Marine” as some sort of barometer by the writers. ***

Reminds me of an old Bill Mauldin cartoon of post war Willie and Joe.

Joe is home reading a newspaper whose headline screams..”SOLDIER SLAPS AUNT!”

Joe says to his wife...”Here is an article about a triple ax murder on page six. No GIs involved.”


24 posted on 08/31/2012 5:32:54 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-study-shows-large-gang-presence-in-u-s-armed-forces/


25 posted on 08/31/2012 5:33:52 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: doc1019

Technically, the NDSM is given for serving in the military during a time of national emergency, and isn’t related to boot camp. We’ve been in a declared national emergency since 9/11, so everyone has it. In the Marine Corps, we call it the “Firewatch Medal”.


26 posted on 08/31/2012 5:36:07 PM PDT by Echo4C (We have it in our power to begin the world over again. --Thomas Paine)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

LOL,

I think somewhere in my pile of stuff, I have that cartoon. Someone sent it to me after I was rejected for a job in the 70’s.

It cheered me up a lot.

I look back on it now and have to laugh. Some things never change.


27 posted on 08/31/2012 5:38:49 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: wtd

how can you be in the Marines for only 2 years? I thought it was 3 at least.


28 posted on 08/31/2012 5:39:41 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Echo4C

In the Navy we got them for guarding dumpsters and never losing one while in boot camp.


29 posted on 08/31/2012 5:43:48 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: Echo4C
“Firewatch Medal”

LOL

That's what we called it too. Damn hard work loosing all that sleep and guarding the baracks at night!

30 posted on 08/31/2012 5:45:08 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Argus
Yeah, is that one of those handguns where you just pull the trigger once and it automatically empties the magazine for you?

<clueless reporter mode>

From your comment, one can certainly tell that you're not a professional journalist. It automatically empties the entire clip!

</clueless reporter mode>

31 posted on 08/31/2012 5:49:43 PM PDT by Bob
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To: ConservativeStatement
Tyler was discharged from the Marines in 2010 after just under two years in the service in Twentynine Palms, Calif., the Marines said. The infantryman from New York City never served overseas, said Marine spokeswoman Capt. Kendra Motz. She wouldn't comment on the circumstances of his discharge.

His uncle, Christopher Dyson, said he left after suffering from depression, and a cousin said he had been hospitalized and was never happy with the Marines. Tyler, who also lived in San Diego, left California in June to move to New Jersey, where he lived with his sister and uncle.

"He was a quiet cat, you know?" Dyson said. "We don't know anything that would compel him to do this."

His cousin, Shanteya Dyson said Tyler had not been the same since his mother died of cancer. His father died when he was young.

"That was his best friend. He was always a quiet guy. But he got more quiet. He really didn't speak at all. He was just blank," said Dyson.

Tyler spent the July 4 weekend drinking at Jersey shore bars with Manase Acheantong, who said Tyler was his friend's cousin.

"We went out. We had drinks. He was a normal kid. He didn't start no fights. He didn't seem crazy," said Acheantong, 25, of Old Bridge.

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... He was planning on going back to school and becoming a brain surgeon, no doubt.

32 posted on 08/31/2012 5:51:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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The girl was 18 and the boy was 24?

Too bad the girl’s father didn’t get a chance at him for about an hour. Anything less than that wouldn’t have been enough.


33 posted on 08/31/2012 5:53:07 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Pontiac

4 active + 2 reserves. Looks like a wash out to me.


34 posted on 08/31/2012 5:53:39 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (68 days)
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To: doc1019

The NDSM is given for active duty service during time of war.

If you graduate boot during time of war, yes, you get one. In peace time, no.


35 posted on 08/31/2012 5:53:43 PM PDT by wrench
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To: wrench

Just trying to understand were his two medals came from ... I can only account for one.


36 posted on 08/31/2012 5:55:39 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: greatvikingone

Serving two years is not at all odd. It’s what I was looking for: some kind of lead to say what the news poopy-heads won’t tell us, as in one of the recent “shootings by a former soldier.

The guy might have been dishonorably discharged.

this is going to get worse begore it gets better, but these people and their overlord will do anything to mess with the military.

Watch for it.


37 posted on 08/31/2012 6:01:37 PM PDT by stanne
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To: wrench

Everyone gets the NSDM which means you served. It also serves as place marker; medals for merit to left and above; medals for areas and campaigns to the right and below.


38 posted on 08/31/2012 6:02:22 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (68 days)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Black perp, 2 white victims....no hate crime here. Move along.


39 posted on 08/31/2012 6:04:42 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: BIGLOOK

Not quite. The NDSM is only authorized during time of war. It is only for service, not service in theater.

My ex Navy brother served 14 years and never was awarded one he went in after Nam and got out before the next one got fired up.


40 posted on 08/31/2012 6:05:41 PM PDT by wrench
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To: doc1019

ok lets try this.....

With the orders granting the GWOTSM for “support duty”, the medal has essentially become almost the same type of award as the National Defense Service Medal and graduates of training schools, ROTC, and service academies are typically presented both awards at the same time. The primary difference between the NDSM and the GWOTSM is that the NDSM is automatic as soon as a person joins the military whereas the GWOTSM may only be presented after thirty days of duty (or three months in the case of the reserves). The regulations for reservists are also not as well defined for the GWOTSM as they are for the NDSM, since the presentation of the NDSM to reservists was codified and clarified as far back as the Gulf War.
Although the Marine Corps is under the auspices of the Navy, regulations for rating the GWOT are the same as those who serve on active duty. Essentially, 30 days of consecutive duty or 60 days of non-consecutive duty in support of approved organizations.[5]


41 posted on 08/31/2012 6:06:16 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: ConservativeStatement

Notice how it takes 4 assholes to disparage the Marines.


42 posted on 08/31/2012 6:07:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Gene Eric

..they all wanted in on it. Slow day since Clint has them scratching their eyeballs.......


43 posted on 08/31/2012 6:10:16 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: smokingfrog
We called it the CNN medal, as in I watched Desert Storm on CNN and they gave me this medal.

When I actually went to SW Asia for the first time that somehow qualified me for two awards of the SW Asia Service Medal, even though I only went once. I didn't feel that bad about it because I had a friend in the Army that got a Bronze Star for succesfully getting his Company airlifted to Saudi Arabia 48 hours after the shooting stopped in Desert Storm.

44 posted on 08/31/2012 6:10:25 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Doogle

Thanks. Now the whole “two” medal thing becomes clear. Again, thanks for the info.


45 posted on 08/31/2012 6:10:44 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: doc1019

yw


46 posted on 08/31/2012 6:11:35 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: ConservativeStatement
I came to a very logical conclusion which would have prevented this horrible incident!

If we had only banned all supermarkets this would have never happened.

47 posted on 08/31/2012 6:11:39 PM PDT by Red6
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To: EEGator; blu

Heard on the news discharged for depression.

Had worked at the supermarket for a week.


48 posted on 08/31/2012 6:13:45 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BIGLOOK

Criteria
It is awarded for honorable active military service as a member of the armed forces of the United States including the Coast Guard, between June 27, 1950 and July 27, 1954, (Korean War), between Jan. 1, 1961 and Aug. 14, 1974, (Vietnam War), between Aug. 2, 1990 to Nov. 30, 1995 (operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm), and currently from Sept. 11, 2001 to a date to be determined (terrorism attacks on the United States). Service members who earned the medal during the first qualifying period, and who again became entitled to the medal, wear a bronze star on the ribbon to denote the second award of the medal.

We are considered to be in a constant state of war since 9/11, so for recent folks, you are correct. We were considered to have been at peace during part of my lifetime.


49 posted on 08/31/2012 6:14:47 PM PDT by wrench
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To: DannyTN

I wonder if he went cold turkey off his meds. Brain chemistry is nothing to mess around with.


50 posted on 08/31/2012 6:19:59 PM PDT by EEGator
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