Skip to comments.MY LIFE WITH LANCE ARMSTRONG ( Do I think he cheated? Yep ! )
Posted on 09/01/2012 7:51:33 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
I was Lances personal assistant for two years, during the height of his racing career. Do I think he cheated? Yep. But my real problem is something that diehard fans seem unable to grasp: the vengeful tactics he uses against people who tell the truth about him, on and off the bike.
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Depositions under oath by one after another stating the facts. So it`s a conspiracy to get Lance ? LOL
He`s a doper, a cheat and a vindictive hateful person and just like O.J. will continue to claim he didn`t do it.
500 clean tests, zero positive tests.
I hate to say this, but sports in general have reached a state where if someone is accused, I figure they’re guilty.
The OJ Simpson defense !?
My finger prints aren`t on the knife, so I didn`t do it despite the overwhelming circumstantial evidence and countless witnesses under oath.
Yeah, keep telling that to yourself.
” Do I think he cheated? Yep !”
Well if some trainer thinks so, he’s obviously guilty.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Lance did use PEDs, but there isn’t any actual proof.
He;s a winner too! 7 times
Mr. Anderson needs some more Cheddar to go with his whine.
7 Time winner? Nope,not anymore.
Be back when the house of cards collapse just to ‘say I told ya so’ :
“Armstrong is having a bad year, and its about to get worse. His lawyers efforts to derail USADAs case against hima scorched-earth campaign aimed at destroying the organization outrightfailed, so he chose to quit rather than keep fighting. But more revelations are coming soon, with the release of The Secret Race, a tell-all by Tyler Hamilton and co-author Daniel Coyle that promises to expose U.S. Postals organized doping program in excruciating detail. Judging by an Associated Press report based on an advance copy, the book could be the death blow to Armstrongs reputation as an athlete.”
What I don't understand is how other cyclists couldn't pass the drug tests but Lance always did. Is Lance some kind of pharmaceutical genius?
“Do I think he cheated” ***THINK***?????
Must be guilty because this guy THINKS so.
How about some PROOF! REAL PROOF. Actual evidence. To date, NONE.
My opinion in all this is simply look where he won these races: France. Le country of weasels. Enough said.
Another person that thinks he doped, but doesn't have proof.
So far 6 OJ Simpson defenses.
And here I thought freepers were rational thinkers yet not one OJ/Lance defenders can tell me why EVERYONE is lying and only Lance is telling the truth.
Ur gonna look silly when OJ/Lance`s house of cards fall apart.
"Armstrong soured on me for reasons that had nothing to do with my performance as an employee, and when I was abruptly fired in late 2004, no clear reason was given for my termination. He reneged on the promise about the bike shop and started attacking me..."
So the friendship and professional relationship breaks up, yet he still expects Armstrong to finance the opening of his bike shop?
Yea he’s a great guy. Left his wife and kids for another woman after she stood by him when he had cancer but his foundation has raised tons of money so it’s OK
As I recall the story, his wife left him.
It's amazing to me how many people can just discount this fact. Someone simply claiming they know Armstrong cheated is NOT proof. In fact nearly all the evidence proves Lance did NOT cheat.
This has been a taxpayer funded anti American witch hunt from the very beginning.
Even if you think he did cheat, attempts to prove it have utterly failed. So I ask this. What ever happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty? The USADA has used the power of government to destroy an American champion. Who will be next on their list?
‘He’s a doper, a cheat and a vindictive person’
Sorry. I think OBAMA when I read that!
OOPS! Forgot HATEFUL.
Very few athletes who perform at that level are scrupulous or decent human beings. The type of personality required for that kind of achievement is as much a curse as the prizes are blessing, perhaps more so.
Here’s what I think.
1. Lance probably did cheat.
2. Probably no way to prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
3. If not everyone else, then probably most of his competitors were cheating as well.
Ty Cobb sharpened his spikes. Bobby Thomson stole the sign for the big homerun. Boxers hit below the belt. Offensive linemen hold. Car racers basically do anything they can get away with. It’s always been this way and guess what? It always will.
Actually at least 1 positive test, which was later “cleared”:
The fact of the matter is the dopers tend to be ahead of the testers. That’s why they store samples for later with better testing. In track and field and cycling a really significant percentage of awarded winners have their wins stripped 5 or 6 years later. There’s an Olympic sprint from the 90s that no longer has a bronze medal winner because 6 of the 8 women to run in the finals had their stored samples test positive.
He passed the drug tests. They where administer the same way to him as to all the other athletes, some of whom failed, that is the standard. Going back and besmirching a person's achievements in a completely unprovable way is wrong regardless of how much of an SOB he was or is to his employees.
Ty Cobb was a raving lunatic alcoholic asshole. He abused people, played dirty and bent or broke every rule to get an advantage. Yet, he is still amongst greatest ball players of all time.
The USADA should cease to exist. It is money waisted by these ‘private’ organizations that are publicly funded that are the hallmark of massive government over spending.
I believe he took a bunch of PEDs. But I also don’t give a sh*t. All riders are cheats pretty much
Also, the USADA has no power to strip Lance of his TDF titles. That falls to the UIC and WADA which are standing by Lance and against the USADA.(as of now)
Isn't there some kind of best evidence rule that applies in these situations.
The only evidence that should be admissible are the tests. The whole point of their existence is to determine whether someone is cheating. If you pass the tests, then by virtue of the rules of the applicable sport, you haven't cheated. No other evidence matters. Even if they had videotape of Armstrong doping himself, presumably it wouldn't matter because he passed the doping tests.
He was allowed to take cortisone for saddle sores, so that isn’t failing a drug test. I’m aware of the storage of samples for future testing. I stated in an earlier post that I wouldn’t be surprised if he used, but hearsay isn’t proof.
Who's everyone dude? You mean the hundreds upon hundreds of medical professionals who actually tested Armstrong and found no evidence of doping? They are ALL LYING?
Who cares? It’s just a sport. Get a life.
You *MUST* acquit!
Sad but true.
I’d rather wear a LIVESTRONG helmet than a Michael Vick jersey.
I find your comments to be the clearest and best on this thread. The tesare just be THE standard, period. If now the USADA lets hearsay over rule their tests, testing has been made a mockery.
If the tests can’t show the correct result of possible doping, the tests need to be changed until such time as they are reliable. Verbal sniping to get rid of heroes’ achievement should be banned from any recognized (thereby ENCOURAGED) position in any sport.
Furthermore, if a championship is removed, no reliance can be placed on the previous #2’s tests. To apply the same standard, all of his past associates will have to be given a chance to take a swipe at the athlete! WHAT A REDICULOUS CAN OF WORMS!
Any parallel sports bodies that shadow the legal system should also be wiped out entirely! (read: NCAA sanctions)
That FACT is known by the Tour, by the USADA and by everyone else. In order for him to have any testosterone in his system it HAS TO BE EXOGENOUS testosterone. So while being treated for testicular cancer he would have been prohibited from taking this because of how it may stimulate his cancer. OK, so far.
Now we talk about rehabilitation. In order for him to continue he may have been given testosterone in order to get him to "baseline" levels. These levels vary throughout the day and even hourly depending on sleep, diet and stress. The methods used to find "cheaters" has gone to a place where the ratio of precursor to final testosterone is used, the percentage of free testosterone is used or the total level of testosterone is used. Some of the ratios find that "normal ratios" of epi/testosterone of 4-1 up to 8-1 are within the ranges of normals and some of the positive tests have levels up to 15 or 16 to 1. (baseball players recently).
He may have been given a waiver, he may have been given it in bursts and now there is a short acting testosterone that clears daily.
My point in this long rant is that unless his testicular cancer is addressed and the treatment is also addressed then all the testing is useless because of Lance's unique problem. (having his balls cut off) As far as what type of person he is, I have no idea.
What do I think of this USADA ruling... it's all a scam power play to take over cycling by typical bureaucrats. Whoever controls the samples controls the sport.
tesare = tests are
Yeah, it’s looking kinda bad for Lance. I grew up a fan of LeMond, a humble fella who won races and loved bicycling. Then there’s Mr. Sheryl Crow.
In the middle of this purge, I found a prescription box in the medicine cabinetto the side of the vanity in the bathroomthat sent everything spiraling. I knew what it was. Not exactly at first, but I sensed from my rudimentary knowledge of medicine that this box shouldnt be in the bathroom of a professional cyclist.
The label said Androstenedione. I looked it up on a laptop computer Armstrong had given me months before. I was searching for valid reasons why he would have this substance, a banned steroid. There were none. I put it back and did my best to forget about it. But I was torn. Should I risk alienating Armstrong and losing my job by calling him out?
Took him a while in the article but he finally admitted it...........Boy, doncha just hate when that happens?
Gee, ya think maybe Mikey's still a little bit pissed off at Lance for not funding that bike shop Mikey always wanted to open?
So, another person has opened themselves up to a liable suit.
Weird, one after another they offer themselves up to be sued into bankruptcy all in an effort get Lance.
THAT is one strange conspiracy.
It took 16 posts but finally someone dragged that lame excuse out.......You might want to read the ex-wife's account
We’re all equal under the law. . . . until we’re winners, then we’re screwed.
Can anyone explain how he cheated and still passed 500 tests.
There are many in Austin, TX who don’t think he’s such a nice guy. His arrogance is well known. No, being a prick doesn’t mean you’re a doper but it does show that he’s not the guy he wants to world to see.
Armstrong finds himself in the unenviable situation that Mark Twain described, a woman trying to prove she's a virgin.
No one can prove he took drugs and he cannot prove he never did despite any number of tests.
Since it costs the accusers nothing to accuse him and they need no proof to make accusations, the “tell all” books and “insider” tales will continue long after the question of guilt or innocence becomes a minor point.
Dude, try telling Elvis fans that their hero was a druggie. You’ll get the same denials you’re seeing here about Saint Lance.