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Doctor refuses to treat overweight Shrewsbury patient
WCVB-TV (ABC - Boston) ^ | August 24, 2012 | Pam Cross

Posted on 09/01/2012 8:36:40 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

SHREWSBURY, Mass. — Ida Davidson is the first to admit her weight goes up and down, but the Shrewsbury resident said she was stunned when a new primary care physician said she could not become a patient because she weighed more than 200 pounds.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: doctor; health; medicine; nomoredocsinmass; obamacare; obesity; overweightpatient; romneycare; weight
Awaiting commentary from Michelle-My-Belle.
1 posted on 09/01/2012 8:36:44 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Some member of the Massachusetts bar is about to score a big payday.


2 posted on 09/01/2012 8:40:32 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

She doesn’t have to treat whoever presents themselves unless it is an emergency.


3 posted on 09/01/2012 8:41:26 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ConservativeStatement

The oh so sainted civil rights act should deal with this.
(I feel for the patient but the doc should have every right to refuse any patient he wishes in his private practice.)


4 posted on 09/01/2012 8:43:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Very interesting. If that is a picture of the doctor it doesn’t look like she has missed too many meals herself.


5 posted on 09/01/2012 8:44:17 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
For once I agree with the AMA

"Both patients and physicians should be able to exercise freedom in whom to enter into a patient-physician relationship ... physicians do not give up their freedom of association by merely becoming professionals."

6 posted on 09/01/2012 8:44:38 AM PDT by The Good Doctor (Democracy is the only system where you can vote for a tax that you can avoid the obligation to pay.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

NHS in England also likes to reject working with the overweight. I wonder if anyone remembers what the NHS and Massachusetts have in common. That’s right, socialized medicine.

Next, old people will be instructed to take an aspirin and go home to die. No one wants to waste any of their precious resources on them.

Thanks, Mitt. /s


7 posted on 09/01/2012 8:48:39 AM PDT by Waryone (Definition of idiocy: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: ConservativeStatement
After three consecutive injuries (with other patients) trying to care for people over 250 pounds, my office is unable to accommodate a certain weight and we put a limit on it," [Dr.] Carter said.

Interesting.

8 posted on 09/01/2012 8:48:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Now a hit television series starring Judi Dench!)
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To: cripplecreek
I agree. I'd rather have a doc tell me upfront then have a nagging feeling he's not doing his best by me.

That said, boys scouts, wedding halls, etc. should have that same right. Some refuse to host same sex marriages and they are penalized. From the article ... physicians do not give up their freedom of association by merely becoming professionals." But the Boys Scout, owners of establishments, owners who refuse to rent are expected to give up their's. This is the next nazi - fat is out - you are on your own. Next will it be 'you smoke or have smoked so you are on your own, I can't help you'?

9 posted on 09/01/2012 8:56:16 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: ConservativeStatement

Ocare in full action.....(yeah I know it is England but the truth is that is where our health care is headed if Ocare stands)


10 posted on 09/01/2012 9:02:57 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Tax-chick

Honestly, although I in no way support the concept, the way medicine is going it makes no sense economically for a physician to have overweight patients, or other patients who have higher risk of hospitalization and requirement for advanced care. There has been lots of talk, and actual movement toward, paying primary care docs in accordance with how successful they are in keeping their patients out of the hospital and using resources. It’s much easier to do that if you have young healthy patients.

This is the way it works to some extent in the NHS, and the Canadian system, where a hospital or regional medical system gets x dollars/pounds each month or year, irrespective of what patients they wind up treating.


11 posted on 09/01/2012 9:03:32 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: presently no screen name

My vet refuses to personally treat large dogs. She lost an eye a couple of years ago when a dog she was treating attacked her.

Se says she loves them but fears them at this point and can’t effectively treat them. Her business partner treats the big ones for now. (with a muzzle)


12 posted on 09/01/2012 9:03:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
My vet refuses to personally treat large dogs. She lost an eye a couple of years ago when a dog she was treating attacked her.

I don't blame her; she's down to her last eye.

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Her business partner treats the big ones for now. (with a muzzle)

The muzzle her business partner wears protects his face from the dogs?

13 posted on 09/01/2012 9:09:03 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: cripplecreek
"The incident on Wednesday occurred during a second visit to Dr. Helen M. Carter at the doctor's Worcester office."

This was the second visit to the previous
"Best Teaching Resident University Of Minnesota 1992"

14 posted on 09/01/2012 9:10:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Jeff Chandler
The muzzle her business partner wears protects his face from the dogs?

I haven't seen the partner so I don't want to judge.
15 posted on 09/01/2012 9:12:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ConservativeStatement
"Davidson has vowed to find a new doctor."

I find it telling that the obese patient is choosing to change her doctor instead of her weight!

16 posted on 09/01/2012 9:17:52 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Obama- If you get re-elected, who are you gonna blame for the mess you will inherit?)
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To: Nifster
".....(yeah I know it is England "

?????

"SHREWSBURY, Mass. —"

17 posted on 09/01/2012 9:22:28 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Obama- If you get re-elected, who are you gonna blame for the mess you will inherit?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

no they’re not. You don’t have to take whoever. Just like attorneys evaluate whether they can help a client or not too.

Ever heard of a declination.


18 posted on 09/01/2012 9:23:24 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Tax-chick

I have a friend who was an EMT. Her response to a call involving an obese patient left her with a severe back injury. She has had to undergo several back surgeries and been bed-ridden many times. She had to give up a career she loved and will spend the rest of her life with chronic back pain.

I don’t blame the doctor one bit.


19 posted on 09/01/2012 9:29:56 AM PDT by nodumbblonde ("The ladder of success is best climbed by stepping on the rungs of opportunity." - Ayn Rand)
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To: ConservativeStatement

How tall is she. At 6 feet she would be a little overweight according to the BMI chart. At the 95th percentile height of 5 foot 9 she would not be clinically obese. At the 5th percentile height of 4 foot 11 she would be very round (BMI 40).


20 posted on 09/01/2012 9:34:53 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Cardinal Dolan's DNC prayer is titled "Ritus exorcizandi obsessor a daemonio")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If a physician accepts a patient, they have taken on an obligation to treat and not abandon the patient. But since Lincoln freed the slaves, they cannot be forced to accept a patient. Zero may change that, but for now slavery is still against the law.


21 posted on 09/01/2012 9:35:29 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: The Good Doctor
So if the good Dr refuses to take a gay man with aids. will the AMA still support her? If a Dr does not want to take a patient then fine it is her right, but you know darn well that if the patient is of a certain group, then the crap will hit the fan. Right now fat people and smokers are unpc and can get treated in any negative fashion and the press and Pols will not say a word. Soon it will be war vets and gun owners and any one who does not support gay rights. Be for an individuals rights of who and who not to associate is all fine and well, but that is not what is going on. There is an agenda behind all this and it is not being hidden any more. Orwell was a Profit.
22 posted on 09/01/2012 9:42:21 AM PDT by JimC214
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To: Tax-chick

If the patients are mobile without assistance, I’m not sure how the doctor’s staff gets injured. Even helping the patient balance while she’s climbing onto the exam table could lead to injury, but in that case the patient could be examined in a chair or standing. I’ve seen dentist-style chairs used in dermatology offices, which would be an extra expense but allows the patient to be raised up and reclined.

If the the doctor sees HMO patients, she might be concerned about the capitation (set fee for each patient) and the higher potential costs in treating overweight patients.

I’m a nurse and an EMT, and I really don’t see a problem treating independently mobile obese patients in the doctor’s office. You’re not going to hurt yourself lifting a heavy arm to take a blood pressure.


23 posted on 09/01/2012 9:51:20 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: ConservativeStatement

Dr. Chunk certainly doesn’t look like she’s missed many meals either.


24 posted on 09/01/2012 10:03:57 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: ConservativeStatement

In Canada, some physicians treat only low complexity patients, the so-called ‘worried well’, because, they are easier to deal with and there is no significant difference in reimbursement between low and high complexity patients.
When these pay-for-performance schemes are tried, providers often engage in ‘cherry picking’ patients likely to have better outcomes. Even when bureaucrats counter by trying to give more consideration to more complex patients, the math usually works put in favor of numerous non-complex patients. Providers can also take advantage of overly rigorous patient compliance rules which can be implemented to exclude and discharge patients that fail to comply with treatment regimens. This makes the provider’s profile look better to reviewers.


25 posted on 09/01/2012 10:04:19 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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To: arrogantsob

The lady in blue and white is the patient. The doc is fairly thin looking, she shows up at about 30-45 sec. in.


26 posted on 09/01/2012 10:24:57 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: WKUHilltopper

That’s not the doc - that’s the patient.


27 posted on 09/01/2012 10:25:33 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: grumpygresh

Cacomorphobic

Fear of 2nd hand fat

Hatred for people of the Fat Race !


28 posted on 09/01/2012 10:27:39 AM PDT by Einherjar
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To: ConservativeStatement

I understand this doctor. My mom was a emergency room nurse and she suffered with slipped disks and hernias from obese patients they had to lift coming into the ER.


29 posted on 09/01/2012 10:32:45 AM PDT by oilfieldtrash
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To: heartwood

depending on the insurers and the contracts, the doc may get a significant bonus for keeping medical costs down, by excluding the obese, she increases her chance of getting a big bonus.

I’m not saying that her behaviour is right but you tend to get more of the behaviour that is rewarded.


30 posted on 09/01/2012 10:35:24 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Funny doctors can choose, but a baker or Inn keeper can’t?


31 posted on 09/01/2012 10:42:30 AM PDT by Ramonne
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To: ConservativeStatement

Welcome to the future. Wonder if the doctor asked her if she had any guns in her home?


32 posted on 09/01/2012 10:51:50 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Tax-chick

The hospitals have the resources to accommodate overweight patients with wider operating room tables, wider wheel chairs and stronger beds and lifts.

A private primary care doctor probably can’t do that. They make very little money after they pay their malpractice insurance, rent and staff salaries and benefits. (Surgeons and radiologists may be another story.)

Plus three of her staff members have been hurt trying to move/assist her overweight patients. She’s probably making high worker compensation payments too.

The poor woman is still gaining weight even though it’s not healthy for her and she had agreed to try to control her weight. Nobody wins in this scenario.


33 posted on 09/01/2012 10:55:40 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ConservativeStatement

Is Spag’s still next to Lizer?


34 posted on 09/01/2012 11:03:28 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Taranto: "The whole point of the metaphor is that if you can hear the whistle, you're the dog.")
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To: NonValueAdded

It’s been a while since I have been to that area. I did see a few shows at the Centrum but that was late 80s.


35 posted on 09/01/2012 11:07:07 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: NonValueAdded

How I miss Spag’s! I used to love to go there for their free tomato plants every year. I could never keep them alive and thriving but it was a nice annual tradition one the less. It’s been replaced with a Building 19. :-(


36 posted on 09/01/2012 11:07:17 AM PDT by MissyMa
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To: ConservativeStatement

it would be better if restaurants refused to serve her


37 posted on 09/01/2012 11:13:56 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Britain-style socialized medicine comes to Massachusetts.

Soon to be in a community near you.

News at eleven.


38 posted on 09/01/2012 11:43:17 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: matthew fuller

sorry my bad..... brain went into stupid mode


39 posted on 09/01/2012 1:59:42 PM PDT by Nifster
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