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Washington state Catholic bishop warned over anti-gay marriage campaign
Reuters ^ | September 1, 2012 | Jonathan Kaminsky

Posted on 09/01/2012 11:36:52 AM PDT by presidio9

Washington state regulators have warned a Roman Catholic bishop that his diocese risks running afoul of state campaign finance laws if he follows through with a planned fund-raising effort opposing same-sex marriage on the November ballot.

State law prohibits organizations, including churches, from raising money from individuals to give to political campaigns, said Lori Anderson, a spokeswoman for the state's Public Disclosure Commission.

"It's not because it's a church. It's because it's not a stand-alone individual," Anderson said on Thursday.

The commission was calling into question a recent letter from Bishop Joseph Tyson to Yakima-area pastors urging them to distribute donation envelopes to parishioners during the weekend of September 8-9.

The money would go to Preserve Marriage Washington, the campaign to defeat legalization of same-sex marriage on the state's November ballot.

The Democratic-controlled Washington Legislature voted this year to legalize same-sex marriage, and Governor Chris Gregoire, a Democrat and a Catholic, signed the measure into law during in February.

But the law was blocked from taking effect as scheduled in June when opponents submitted a petition for a repeal referendum on the November ballot. Referendum 74, subsequently certified as having collected enough signatures to qualify, asks voters to approve or reject the gay marriage bill enacted in February.

Tyson's letter instructs parish priests not to open the envelopes once they are turned back in, but to place them into a pre-addressed security envelope to be mailed directly to Preserve Marriage, according to local media reports.

"It's not our envelope," Tyson told local television station KIMA-TV. "We're not collecting the money, and we're not taking the money. Preserve Marriage Washington is doing that. We're going to follow the state law."

But Anderson said she was not swayed.

"That can't happen under our state law,"

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stammendment; catholic; celebratesin; hedonismandstate; homosexualagenda; samesexmarriage

1 posted on 09/01/2012 11:37:02 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9

The government has a right to tell you what you can say in the pulpit, right?


2 posted on 09/01/2012 11:39:48 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: presidio9

If this is about using Church for political purposes, they better get ready to go after every Black Baptist church in the entire state, starting now.


3 posted on 09/01/2012 11:40:15 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 97+% of the black vote)
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To: presidio9

I remember handing out literature outside a church years ago for a pro-life repub running for office here in NJ; we made sure we stayed on the public sidewalk as Masses let out.

Was a little surprised by the venom of some “Catholics” (I was much younger then).


4 posted on 09/01/2012 11:40:36 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: narses

Ping


5 posted on 09/01/2012 11:55:18 AM PDT by PJBankard (I told my friends I was heading to Octermocty for the weekend. They replied... "Wear the fox hat")
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To: freedumb2003

Exactly my thought. Politicians like Hillary Clinton campaign directly from the pulpit of black churches with nary a word said about it. Same old leftist double standards.


6 posted on 09/01/2012 11:56:42 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: presidio9

As a private citizen, the Bishop can and should do whatever he wants!


7 posted on 09/01/2012 11:57:57 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: kearnyirish2

Hopefully those venom catholics are out of the Catholic Church today.


8 posted on 09/01/2012 12:00:23 PM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: Maryhere; kearnyirish2

Catholicism is a decision, not an ethnicity.


9 posted on 09/01/2012 12:04:24 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
Bishop Joseph Tyson is conforming with the state law and with the state constitution.
If the rigid liberal ideologues in the State Capitol persist in this power grab, I believe they will lose in Court and in the political races coming up.
There will be great video of Democrats ordering police to arrest Catholic Bishops and priests.
TWB
10 posted on 09/01/2012 12:34:23 PM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: presidio9
The dhimmis war on Cristians continues.

I'm curious to see how this plays out for them.

11 posted on 09/01/2012 12:36:21 PM PDT by Pietro
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To: presidio9

People are going to lose their individual freedom this way I guess. The Bishop is still an individual isn’t he?


12 posted on 09/01/2012 12:44:38 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: CondorFlight

Churches should never have started registering with the IRS for any kind of official status. It was the beginning of the end of religious freedom.


13 posted on 09/01/2012 12:45:48 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: kearnyirish2; freedumb2003

notice the leftist churches always get a pass


14 posted on 09/01/2012 12:48:15 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Pietro
I'm curious to see how this plays out for them.

I'm curious to see how they use Cardinal Dolan at arm's length, and whether the netorks put his appearance on the air. What am I talking about? Of COURSE they'll put him on the air, even if the DNC closes with a blessing from Rev. Al, or an Imam, or a Wiccan high priestess, the msm will be sure to document that Catholicism is just as important to Obama as it is to the Republicans.

15 posted on 09/01/2012 12:54:04 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: presidio9
Washington state regulators have warned a Roman Catholic bishop that his diocese risks running afoul of state campaign finance laws if he follows through with a planned fund-raising effort opposing same-sex marriage on the November ballot.

Sounds like a violation two violations of the First Amendment.

16 posted on 09/01/2012 12:59:55 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: presidio9

ist amendment, speech and religion is in there ,maybe these dopes need to read it at their convention .

They have crapped all over Catholics but now election time they are worried the truth of what they have done will get out and hurt them .
I’m sure the media wil cover for them again in places like PA, NJ, DE,MD,NH,CO,FL


17 posted on 09/01/2012 1:14:31 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Maryhere

“Hopefully those venom catholics are out of the Catholic Church today.”

Just as likely they’re “Eucharistic ministers”, “permanent deacons”, or lectors playing priest/priestess; these are people who bothered going to Mass.


18 posted on 09/01/2012 3:01:42 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: GeronL; freedumb2003

“notice the leftist churches always get a pass”

Including the Catholic Church when it embraces leftist causes (see: Rev. Pfleger).


19 posted on 09/01/2012 3:05:19 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Maryhere

Re: Hopefully those venom catholics are out of the Catholic Church today.

I doubt if they were really ever in the Catholic Church


20 posted on 09/01/2012 3:14:20 PM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: presidio9
I'm all for the Church taking up the collection in exactly the manner described. Trying to prohibit this is just another aspect of incremental tyranny.

But I do ask this: what's the big idea with putting all the little envelopes into one big Security Envelope and sending them all at once? Why couldn't they just hand out stamped envelopes and have people drop them in the mail themselves?

Surely ther would be a couple of people in the congregation who would spring for a couple hundred "forever" stamps.

Is there something here I missed?

21 posted on 09/01/2012 3:26:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification?)
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To: presidio9

WAR is AFOOT!! LET’S ROLL!!!


22 posted on 09/01/2012 4:54:51 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: presidio9

I’m absolutely certain that Rev. Wright never raised any political funds, from the pews, on behalf of Obama or any other favored Chicago politician. // sarc


23 posted on 09/01/2012 7:13:10 PM PDT by vox_freedom (RR)
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To: GeronL

Absolutely! The churches muzzled themselves by applying for 501 C 3’s.

And here’s something even worse...I know of Tea Party groups who applied.


24 posted on 09/01/2012 7:27:08 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: presidio9

Left leaning churches do this kind of thing and never get a warning. Or so it seems to me looking back...


25 posted on 09/02/2012 7:36:37 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: presidio9

There is no wall between church and state. The church may interact in any manner it wants with the government. However there is a wall between state and church which is absolutely impenetrable. The state can not control, guide, demand or deny religion. A judicious government must have a moral foundation and a moral foundation can only be found in religion.


26 posted on 09/02/2012 8:12:56 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH ((Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.)
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