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US election 2012: Obama won my support – but it won’t happen again
The Daily Telegraph ^ | August 31, 2012 | Daniel Hannan, UK Member of the European Parliament

Posted on 09/01/2012 2:13:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

American pollsters will tell you that the presidential candidate who is in the lead going into the party conventions usually wins. Four polls last week showed a tiny lead for Barack Obama, two for Mitt Romney and one was level; all seven were well within the margin of error.

Another rule is that the Gallup poll taken 100 days before the poll foretells the winner. Only once in the past 60 years – the Bush-Dukakis race of 1988 – did that predictor fail. So, what did Gallup show on the date in question? A dead heat, with both candidates on 46 per cent.

Many Europeans wonder why Mr Obama is not comfortably ahead. Most media, both within the US and abroad, portray him as a serene statesman being shouted at by angry Tea Partiers in 18th-century fancy dress. Viewed solely through the medium of a television screen, he seems bigger than his Republican critics. They are presented as a gaggle of anti-abortionists, stump-toothed mountain men and crackpots hoarding gold against the presumed collapse of paper currencies – an extremist coalition led by a plutocrat. Seen from abroad, it looks like an election between Dr Hibbert and Montgomery Burns.

Then again, we don’t have to live with Mr Obama’s domestic policies. We see him doing what he does best: making speeches, carrying out ceremonial duties and reminding the world, simply by holding office, that America had the spirit to move in one generation from the formalised exclusion of black voters to the election of a mixed-race president.

It was largely on these grounds that I supported Mr Obama four years ago. I was distressed by the Republican Party’s abandonment of free markets for crony capitalism. I thought that Mr Obama’s election would wipe away the stain of segregation....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; danielhannan; economy; greece; hannan; obama; polls; romney; teaparty; teapartyrebellion; uk; unemployment
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1 posted on 09/01/2012 2:13:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The undecideds break in favor of the challenger, and against the incumbent.

Unless Romney does something really dumb, or unless Obama drops a nuke on Iran, I think Romney wins.

2 posted on 09/01/2012 2:17:29 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Many Europeans wonder why Mr Obama is not comfortably ahead

And many Amercians wonder why Mr Romney is not comfortably ahead.

3 posted on 09/01/2012 2:25:45 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are no undecideds.
There is no break to the winner in the last week.
There are only people who in effect want to tell the pollsters that it’s none of their business, so they say undecided.

This is the best indicator of the election, which will not be close like the “experts” predict: Do you know any 2008 Obama voters who say they will not vote for him again and have switched over to the other party? Next, do you know any McCain voters who say they are now voting for Obama?

The drift is all in one direction. That is what happened in 1980 when all the pollsters said it was too close to call.


4 posted on 09/01/2012 2:26:23 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gallup is a lib shill. If they had it tied, Romney must be in the lead.


5 posted on 09/01/2012 2:27:46 PM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
Daniel Hannan, UK Member of the European Parliament : "...Many Europeans wonder why Mr Obama is not comfortably ahead."
Many Americans wonder why anyone thinks we should care what Eurarabians think.


6 posted on 09/01/2012 2:35:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: libertylover
And many Amercians wonder why Mr Romney is not comfortably ahead.

The obvious answer is half population of US is receiving government check/food stamps/medicaid/rent subsidy/heat subsidy/free tanslator services if you don't speak English and free transportation to medical facility/free hospital services to pregnant illegals/free breakfast & lunch in schools/free childcare/............................ Do you really expect those folks to vote against the radical socialist from Chicago?
7 posted on 09/01/2012 2:38:54 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: SunkenCiv
Many Americans wonder why anyone thinks we should care what Eurarabians think.

Many Americans don't particularly care; but we are interested in what others are thinking.

Anything wrong with that?

8 posted on 09/01/2012 2:39:03 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Without economic freedom, no other form of freedom can have material meaning.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“We see him doing what he does best: making speeches, carrying out ceremonial duties...”

Holy crap...THAT’S when he’s at his best?

Because his speeches are horrible.


9 posted on 09/01/2012 2:42:24 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (OWS = The Great American Snivel War)
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To: libertylover

Click on the link and read the rest of the column.


10 posted on 09/01/2012 2:47:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The issues are liberal turnout and conservative refusal to honestly answer polling questions. If Obama can finally find the right theme (war on women, war on minorities, free stuff for his targeted groups of voters), he can do unexpectedly well. If republican voters have been less willing than usual to talk to pollsters at all and to answer truthfully when they do talk (i.e., if it’s hard to admit that you’re voting against the black guy), then Obama will not do as well as expected.


11 posted on 09/01/2012 3:18:46 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Many Europeans wonder why Mr Obama is not comfortably ahead. Most media, both within the US and abroad, portray him as a serene statesman being shouted at by angry Tea Partiers in 18th-century fancy dress

The second sentence explains the first. If euro media presents this caricature of mainstream America to the provincials of euroland then of course the insular masses will have no way of understanding what goes on outside their borders. And to think, these serfs and burghers have the temerity to call US the isolated ones!

12 posted on 09/01/2012 3:23:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: oldbill
Turnout remains the key to this election. And momentum is on our side.
13 posted on 09/01/2012 3:25:51 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Kansas58
The undecideds break in favor of the challenger, and against the incumbent.

There is that.

And there is the natural reticence to maintain you are supporting Obama so as to avoid any racist stigma. That reticence evaporates upon entering the privacy of the voting booth.

Landslide.

14 posted on 09/01/2012 3:47:58 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m just on the edge of my seat to learn what Moochelle will be wearing to the hooplah....and if the Dimwitts will have time to put together a video marking Obama’s selfless acts of compassion when no one was paying attention.


15 posted on 09/01/2012 3:58:49 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: entropy12

That’s it exactly. The ‘rats are well aware of who their constituency is also, and have been working overtime to expand it through acts of amnesty for illegals, more gimmees for illegals and minorities, dropping work requirements for welfare, “free” healthcare, etc. And demonising whites while at the same time turning a blind eye to the violence being perpetrated upon them. I wonder what they’re going to do when (very soon, I think) the parasites overwhelm the host and it all comes crashing down.


16 posted on 09/01/2012 4:15:37 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Yes they are awful. Or maybe they don’t even rise to awful, because they’re so vacuous and mediocre. He uses the most Babbitty phrases in a really tortured effort to sound lofty. You can’t sound lofty when you’re insincere.


17 posted on 09/01/2012 4:23:25 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: BfloGuy

What’s the problem?


18 posted on 09/01/2012 4:33:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: entropy12
That's why the Pubs need to make the case that if nothing is done to reduce the debt by reducing spending, the "goose that lays the golden eggs" will DIE!

Then, the "goose will be cooked" not just for "Granny", but for EVERY ONE who depends on the government.

IOW, do what the Dems do, scare the crap out of them!

19 posted on 09/01/2012 5:29:05 PM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I always thought Hannan was a sharp cookie. However, I severely question the judgment of anyone who supported this empty chair.


20 posted on 09/01/2012 5:35:05 PM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (CT Yankee in NC Exile)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sure, Hannan is just another elitist schmuck who supports marxists because of the color AAof their skin. Screw him and those like him.


21 posted on 09/01/2012 5:46:12 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
America had the spirit to move in one generation from the formalised exclusion of black voters to the election of a mixed-race president.

How long does he think one generation is?

22 posted on 09/01/2012 5:54:17 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv; All
Thanks to FReeper JoeProBono for the pic!!)

23 posted on 09/01/2012 5:59:45 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SunkenCiv
Daniel Hannon gives magnificent Conservative speeches, and they were all over Free Republic recently. You'll remember him from as early as 2009:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/iuRoozN0qVk/0.jpg

24 posted on 09/01/2012 6:22:08 PM PDT by Does so (....... Justice Scalia just turned 78 .........==8-O ............Dims don't think ... they PLOT!)
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To: Daffynition

Some of her memorable outfits are here =

http://moo-couch.blogspot.com/2010/10/happy-halloween-michelle-obama-style.html


25 posted on 09/01/2012 8:26:56 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Daniel Hannan is a wonderful conservative speaker if you have never heard him. He wants America to get back to our roots and is only pointing out that because of media bias most Brits have the “media created Obama” in their brains, not the destructive president we know only too well. Please take the time to go listen to some of the youtube videos of him. Maybe start with CPAC 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BujuEpGmKMg

I remember listening to him before the 2010 elections and I was really in a low spot about how we would survive until 2012 with our king and his media of court jesters. Daniel Hannan’s talk of the brilliance of our founders and our Constitution and the dangerous road we were on if we didn’t get back to our founding principles was inspiring and uplifting considering the circumstances. He pointed out that Europe is too far gone and doesn’t want the same fate for us.


26 posted on 09/01/2012 8:56:37 PM PDT by Reb Raider
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To: doug from upland

Classic all!

Where is the Plaque in Chicago where BOTH of them were asked to give up their law licenses for cause?


27 posted on 09/01/2012 9:10:19 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: entropy12

Add mass immigration-driven, pro-Democrat changes in the racial/ethnic demographics of the country to what you said, plus overwhelming bias from the mainstream media, and that would sufficiently answer why Romney isn’t way out ahead.


28 posted on 09/01/2012 9:15:12 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Does so

That must explain why he supported Obama in 2008.


29 posted on 09/02/2012 6:12:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: musicman

:’)


30 posted on 09/02/2012 6:12:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Kansas58

or unless Obama drops a nuke on Iran..


I would consider voting for him if he did that.


31 posted on 09/06/2012 8:38:35 AM PDT by Leep (I'm a Chic-Fil-- A-merican)
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To: libertylover
And that is what Daniel Hannan says later in the article. The real question is not why Mr Obama isn’t comfortably ahead, but why Mr Romney isn’t. When 64 per cent of Americans say that they expect their standard of living to decline under Mr Obama, and when Mr Romney enjoys a 19-point lead on economic competence, the election ought to be a walkover.

And the reason he isnt is that the Democratic smoke machine and their friends in the media have so far managed to concentrate all public attention on non-economic matters - gay marriage, abortion, Todd Akin, and so on. If Romney is going to win, he has to turn the debates onto subjects that he is stronger on.

32 posted on 09/10/2012 7:49:50 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: SunkenCiv
Many Americans wonder why anyone thinks we should care what Eurarabians think.

Hannan is not a "Eurarabian".

Many Americans should care, in the sense that they are far more likely to get a balanced and truthful opinion as to what is going on from the European press than they have from the US media.

33 posted on 09/10/2012 7:52:46 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: hinckley buzzard

Err..hold on. The comment is most media, both WITHIN the US and abroad...your media is just as culpable of dumbing down the dear pee-pul as its Euro equivalents.


34 posted on 09/10/2012 7:55:01 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: JacksonCalhoun

Well, just remember that the opposition at the time was John McCain.


35 posted on 09/10/2012 7:57:18 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: SunkenCiv

Well, the opposition was John McCain.


36 posted on 09/10/2012 7:59:32 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: GoldenPup
Gallup is a lib shill. If they had it tied, Romney must be in the lead.

It was after that poll was taken that the government sued Gallup. I sure hope Romney pulls it off. I can't take another four years of not having a president.

37 posted on 09/10/2012 8:03:40 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Vanders9

Not even close.


38 posted on 09/10/2012 3:04:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Not what I’ve heard from several folk on these boards. And if you think about it, the better quality European press (I’m discounting some of the comics at the lower end) at least are dispassionate about US politics.


39 posted on 09/11/2012 12:38:09 AM PDT by Vanders9
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