They all had flaws, that was the problem, it was easy in 1980, because clearly Reagan was head and shoulders above everybody else. "And if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass 'a hoppin..."
Posted on 09/01/2012 3:58:59 PM PDT by RightSideNews
The liberals say they are scared of Karl Rove. They shouldn’t be. The former Senior Advisor and Deputy Chief of Staff during the George W. Bush Administration, Rove was called “Bush’s Brain” and is now the “Party Boss” of the GOP. He is raising up to $1 billion for various Republican Super-PACs, in order to elect Mitt Romney as president. That sounds impressive. But what is he going to do with the money? Perhaps conservatives have reason to be scared of Karl Rove as well. He recently joked about murdering Missouri’s strong conservative Senate Republican candidate, Todd Akin. Rove -- and Romney – had wanted Akin to leave the race because of the comments that he made – and apologized for – regarding abortion and rape. The controversy over Rove, however, goes far beyond a bad joke to questions about whether Rove actually wants to run a conservative campaign to defeat Obama. Rove made it clear, during the same meeting he trashed Akin, that he doesn’t want Republicans to accuse Obama of being a socialist. He thinks Romney can and should win by abandoning conservatives and wooing Obama voters.
Rove, a Fox News Contributor, was quoted as telling a super-secret meeting of Republican fat cats in Tampa, “We should sink Todd Akin. If he’s found mysteriously murdered, don’t look for my whereabouts!”
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Yup. Romney was dropped squarely on our shoulders like a pile of crap.
>> Rove: “We should sink Todd Akin. If he’s found mysteriously murdered, don’t look for my whereabouts!”
Would that be “legitimate murder”?
August: Republican Foot-in-Mouth Month.
You know what? I am TIRED of you negative people. Romney wasn't my choice either, but whaddya gonna do? Hope Ron Paul gets some kind of a miracle appointment or something? Quit being so negative and either get behind him or get outta the way fer chrissake.....
I agree. Many of us are equally tired of the Romney attackers. I wonder what names they use on D.U.
I agree. Many of us are equally tired of the Romney attackers. I wonder what names they use on D.U. It’s either Romney or Obama. They sound as though they want Obama.
You might want to speak to Mr. Rove about getting behind his party instead of ridiculing people on a conservative activist site.
You don’t get it. Romney was not a choice. He was annointed the candidate even before the first primary. The primaries were a sham. And it was all engineered by the liberal elite in the party, possibly including Rove. A conservative candidate had no chance.
Why any real conservative still embraces the Republican Party is beyond me. There is no place in the party for conservatives.
I also want Akins to drop out.
He's an embarrassment. Because of his inability to control his ignorance in public, he handed McCaskill the Senate seat in Missouri where she is very unpopular.
At the very least, he is too stupid to realize that he was being set up in an interview with a reporter.
Romney was not "dropped squarely on our shoulders." What happened was what always happened. Instead of getting behind an acceptable Conservative with the chance to win, we divided the vote among several candidates based on litmus tests. This diverted votes from nominal conservatives, who would have been preferrable to Romney, such as Gingrich and Perry to people who passed more of the tests (Santorum, Cain, Bachmann) but had zero chance of winning. On top of that, our primary system is broken. Moderates like Romney and McCain are rewarded for winning huge liberal states like NY & California, which the GOP has zero chance of winning in a general election.
Like I said. Argh!!! Please refer to my original post....
Everybody is a ‘strategerista’ these days.. some more so than others here.. it goes with the joint.. uhh process.
I ain’t happy with what has been served up but I ain’t afraid to vote for Ryan Romney like I did for Palin McCainiac. we lost anyway but this time it’s for all the marbles.. a lot of folks have worked hard to give us at least a somewhat decent chance to stem the flow of bleeding.. shame to let it pass over and not take avail of the options, as bitter as they may be philosophically..
Is the individual more important then ‘the state’?
R the Greeks busted flat?
I’ll get back to you in 500 years. ;-)
Because none of them stood out that much from the other.
Really makes you wonder. A lot of these types of posts today. Seems like the Paulbots want us to forget that they teamed up with the Code Pink radicals to try and disrupt the convention.
Conservative? Hardly.
and anyone who takes his money must believe as he does and that explains why the political landscape is littered with the remains of those who trusted him.
Sure they did. We had some very emotional debates about each and every one of them on this website. I remember that you were involved in some of them.
The point is not that Rove and Co. stuck us with Romney. Conservatives are purists by nature, and many of us got caught up in the flavor of the month when Mittens was never polling above 25% and the nomination was there for the taking. I recognized Gingrich's many flaws, but I settled on him and tried to get others to see the logic in doing so, as opposed to first Bachmann, then Cain, then Santorum, none of whom ever had a chance of winnning. All they did was take votes away from the one legitimate challenger. Now were're stuck with Romney, and I'm being as enthusiastic about the man as I can be. The point in politics is to understand that you never get everything you want and do what it takes to win.
Tell us when he starts, OK?
They all had flaws, that was the problem, it was easy in 1980, because clearly Reagan was head and shoulders above everybody else.
BTW, people are free to vote some other way than you believe to be proper ~ this is not yet a Fascist Dictatorship.
At best, Akins is a vain fool. That is why the Democracts supported him in the primary.
I didn't realize that the election was over. Do you live in the future???
This piece is spot on! Cliff Kincaid is absolutely right about Rove.
What are your names at Planned Parenthood?
You are promoting the first officially, openly, aggressively, pro abortion republican presidential candidate in history, one who is officially rejecting the republican Party Platform on abortion.
They all had flaws, that was the problem, it was easy in 1980, because clearly Reagan was head and shoulders above everybody else. "And if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass 'a hoppin..."
See post 24, mister conservative. You’ve come a long way baby.
You are right. I have been writing about the dangers of Rove since 2001 - but he happens to be right about Akin. That doesn’t make me like Rove any more than I did before, it just means I can be analytical and non-emotional and simply dissect an issue as it comes.
But Ansel, you miss the point totally with that ridiculous statement.
He’s still far far less openly, officially, less aggressively, less pro abortion than his opponent. I know that messes up your whole schtick to admit it, so you won’t admit it, but it’s the truth.
I may wind up doing the same thing this time around - largely because I have lost faith in my fellow citizens' abilities to discern, practice and defend liberty. Lesson not taught, lesson not learned.
Rove’s last hurrah before he sinks into the muck and obscurity. And take your dog whistle with you.
Rove is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I don’t quite dislike him as much as I dislike Obama....but it’s very close.
Yeah, and the vajayjay costume-wearing Code Pink knuckleheads are paragons of pro-life conservative values. and you claim Romney is the bad one. Sheesh.
You talk a big game, but in reality you Paulbots are provacateurs with an agenda and nothing more.
Rove is from the Bush wing of the GOP. He’s irrelevant. Stay out da Bushes.
Three candidates were lifelong Conservative Republicans. Every single one of the other 13 were not.
There were former Democrats, current Democrats, probably future Democrats, Libertarians, Democrat donors, etc. Some had been elected to office; others had been involved in campaigns for other than Republican purposes.
So, it was 13 to 3, and one of the 13 couldn't break 22% most of the time, but there were those others who managed to snag enough votes to make the 3 lifelong folks come up a bit short of a resoundingly large number, and at the same time they managed to make the 22% tallies look serious.
Obviously the Republican party has some difficulty in controlling its brand name ~
If we'd had but the three lifelong Republican Conservatives running we'd picked a leader by late April and that'd been that. The other 13 should have been dumped at the get go.
Then if you live in Missouri go and vote for Obamacare-loving McCaskill.
Not only are you supporting changing the GOP position on abortion, you show how silly you are by labeling people paulbots, you sure don’t read people well.
No, that was a childish statement.
You are promoting the first officially, openly, aggressively, pro abortion republican presidential candidate in history, one who is officially rejecting the republican Party Platform on abortion, you are seeking a change in the GOP with your vote.
Both candidates believe in unlimited abortion ~ which is just like killing a baby to those on this side of the argument ~ they really don’t get out of the infanticide problem just by killing babies in the womb.
You’re spot on, FRiend. Now it is what it is, but Obama has still got to go.
“You don’t get it. Romney was not a choice. He was annointed the candidate even before the first primary. The primaries were a sham. And it was all engineered by the liberal elite in the party, possibly including Rove. A conservative candidate had no chance.
Why any real conservative still embraces the Republican Party is beyond me. There is no place in the party for conservatives.”
This is what these blind followers can’t get in their heads. If they do the response, ‘well what are you going to do, vote for Obama’, as we keep sliding downward. Embracing this third world invasion will be the final blow to this country!!
You sound like a card-carrying Romneybot to me. Don't you know that the only way we can "win" now is if we get four more years of Obama, $15,000,000,000,000 more debt, another Sotamayor in SCOTUS, Obamcare forever, and a return to multiple military superpowers? Plus, the man's a Mormon, for Joe Smith's sake.
Pinging you to this article that shows, once again, the deliberate plan to remove Tea Party and actual conservative people into the waste land. The rule allowing the changing of rules, is noted as part of this plan. I knew it had to be so due to the extraordinary, never known before, actions of the rules committee.
And just as many are tired of being called Obama supporters/DUmmies if they fail to worship at Romney's feet. Did you check out the last night of the live convention thread? People were gasping and weeping and moaning about their crushes on Mitt. One person said he was metrosexual but in a good way (WTH?). He was compared to Reagan more than once, and one Freeper said he will be our King David. Now digest that for a moment, and tell me how it's any different from the left building a huge statue of Obama in Charlotte.
Voting for Romney is one thing. But we all know who and what he is. Trying to build a myth around him isn't going to wash. Conservatives are supposed to think----not expire in breathless fits of emotionalism over a political candidate.
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