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Paul Ryan exaggerates his marathon-running prowess
Los Angeles Times ^ | 09/01/2012 | James Rainey

Posted on 09/02/2012 12:49:04 AM PDT by HarleyD

Voters will have to decide how much to ding Republican vice presidential nominee Paul D. Ryan for slamming President Obama on a debt reduction commission, when Ryan made the same judgment himself with a vote in Congress.

That kind of inconsistency is easy to prove, if a bit arcane for some Americans. But there is nothing mysterious to the athletically-inclined about marathon times, so it will be interesting to see how the public reacts to Ryan carving a huge hunk out of his best time for the 26.2-mile race.

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KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; getryan; marathon; obamawasntvetted; pravdamedia; ryan
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At first I thought this was satire until I read the comments underneath-many of which were deleted because of language. These people are absolutely desperate.
1 posted on 09/02/2012 12:49:10 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
MOM! The lefties are nit-picking again!

(They don't have anything else.)

2 posted on 09/02/2012 12:51:21 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: HarleyD

But no concern about seeing Obama’s real birth certificate.


3 posted on 09/02/2012 12:53:01 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: HarleyD

This was a reckless boast on Ryan’s part. Politicians, of course, routinely do this kind of thing and must be called on it when nailed. However, if the rats want to make a big deal out of it then let’s revisit, ad infinitum, their own “stolen valor” scumbags, Senators Richard Blumenthal and Tom Harkin, who both lied about being Vietnam veterans.

There is a big difference between recklessly, even if innocently, exaggerating an old marathon time with claiming to be a war veteran. Ryan should get a smack on the back of the head from Romney; Blumenthal and Harkin should be in jail.


4 posted on 09/02/2012 12:58:13 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: fortheDeclaration

5 posted on 09/02/2012 1:09:29 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: HarleyD

Can I rewrite the headline?

ROMNEY WIN IMMINENT; MEDIA MAKES MOUNTAIN OUT OF MOLEHILL, IGNORES BIDEN GAFFES


6 posted on 09/02/2012 1:10:09 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: Lancey Howard

A Reckless boast saying you ran a marathon in 1990 in 2 hours 50 something and it was actually 4 hours surely you jest. Did the Times happen to mention if Ryan said he was dodging sniper fire at the same time like our current Secretary of State did who if I am not mistaken ran for President and might again. I find the marathon scandal a joke.


7 posted on 09/02/2012 1:11:59 AM PDT by funfan
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To: F15Eagle

He’s just of Kenyan descent on his father’s side./sarc?


8 posted on 09/02/2012 1:13:14 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: HarleyD

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9 posted on 09/02/2012 1:15:56 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: HarleyD

Next up: Romney has exaggerated the size of fish that he hooked but that got away, and the Ryans claim that their kids get better grades than they do.


10 posted on 09/02/2012 1:17:46 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Eleutheria5

At a minimum.

Perhaps more?

Dunno.

But when Obama asks why people think such things....

He’s being a total jerk and hypocrite, for he and many, many others promoted it for at least two decades.

But yeah, trust him with four more years - because he works so tirelessly, looking for American jobs -

On every golf course he finds ....

Or so he would fool the lemmings again.


11 posted on 09/02/2012 1:18:05 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: HarleyD

I haven’t read or heard the original interview, but Ryan doesn’t seem like the type to deliberately try to lie. My husband runs marathons all the time and you can see the race results immediately after the race now (with the bigger races) so Ryan would have known that. I would bet that instead it was simply a slip of the tongue on Ryan’s part. Goodness knows *I’ve* messed up like that a time or two, and I’ll bet others have as well. Wasn’t there some guy who said there were 57 states? ;o)


12 posted on 09/02/2012 1:22:45 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
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To: HarleyD

He should have known someone would check it out/Runners World did. They have this story on their site showing nasty comments. They never talk politics that I know of. I image that story will be gone soon or at least they’ll close off the comment section.


13 posted on 09/02/2012 1:23:52 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: HarleyD
What's next? Will the GOP withdraw its funding of Ryan's campaign?
14 posted on 09/02/2012 1:26:37 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Rockingham

This just in:

Reliable sources claim Ryan has cooties!


15 posted on 09/02/2012 1:26:40 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
22 years ago!! Does your husband remember the time from 22 years ago to the tee? I don't even think Obama or the Times remembers that gas was $1.79 a gallon in December 2008 and now it is $4.22 a gallon.
16 posted on 09/02/2012 1:34:13 AM PDT by funfan
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To: HarleyD

Gives the Republicans the perfect opportunity to reintroduce Neil Kinnock.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/2607505/Joe-Biden-plagiarised-Neil-Kinnock-speech.html


17 posted on 09/02/2012 1:40:57 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: HarleyD

How many trees died so that the LA Times could publish this nonsense. Where’s Green Peace on this?


18 posted on 09/02/2012 1:41:41 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: F15Eagle

“...looking for American jobs - On every golf course he finds ....”

I wonder if he’s run into OJ, searching for the “real killers”?

I know, I know, that’s racist!


19 posted on 09/02/2012 1:43:40 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: funfan
Anybody know if that is considered a legitimate Rape of Ryan by the LA Times?

LA Times continues it War on Marathoners!

Pathetic!

I heard Obama uses over-sized golf balls. What about that, LA Times?

20 posted on 09/02/2012 1:45:33 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (where the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: Just mythoughts

Maybe, I mean this is like the THIRD time this story has been posted in several hours. Some here would probably love to keep this sh*t going until the R&R campaign was broke and thrown off course in order to lose this election. See, it’s all about showing the GOP-e what’s what.


21 posted on 09/02/2012 1:53:33 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: funfan
22 years ago!! Does your husband remember the time from 22 years ago to the tee? I don't even think Obama or the Times remembers that gas was $1.79 a gallon in December 2008 and now it is $4.22 a gallon.

Excellent point.
22 posted on 09/02/2012 1:56:54 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Christie at the beach
I went back to read more at Runner's World site. It looks like some of the xtra nastier comments have been pulled. I read through 3 pages of comments mostly from the runners themselves to see what they thought. Goodnight.
23 posted on 09/02/2012 1:59:09 AM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Rockingham

If they all start to unzip their pants during the debates I’m gonna scream.


24 posted on 09/02/2012 2:08:25 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: jocon307
I wonder if he’s run into OJ, searching for the “real killers”?

I know, I know, that’s racist!

Seems like just yesterday when Bill Cosby turned heads playing tennis with Robert Culp on I Spy.

25 posted on 09/02/2012 2:14:58 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: HarleyD

“Voters usually have some patience, but they can quickly become displeased with politicians whose prevarications become routine.”

Didn’t stop them voting in Obama/Biden


26 posted on 09/02/2012 2:31:59 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: F15Eagle

That is why obama plays so much golf...he is providing caddie jobs—and i’m sure he gives at least 50 cent tips..


27 posted on 09/02/2012 2:39:33 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: snarkytart
My thoughts exactly! I cannot remember what happened two weeks ago, much less 22 years ago. As I understand it, this comment was made extemporaneously on a radio show. It was not part of a stump speech that gets repeated over and over (as Obama "misstatements" are).
28 posted on 09/02/2012 2:42:36 AM PDT by srmorton (Deut. 30 19: "..I have set before you life and death,....therefore, choose life..")
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To: HarleyD

Our congresswoman, Jean Schmidt of 2d Ohio, nearly was derailed by a claim about marathon running. As it turned out, she did have proof to back up her claim

In normal circumstances, one doesn’t forget one’s best time by an hour. A sub 3 hour versus a 4 hour marathon is a huge difference.

The thing that always baffles me about this is that a 9 minute pace over 26 miles is an accomplishment. Sure, it isn’t a world record or anything, but simply completing the race is what marathoning is about.

It was a dumb mistake on Ryan’s part if the details we’ve been provided are correct.


29 posted on 09/02/2012 3:04:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: HarleyD

Ryan broke one of the cardinal rules for Republicans. Never play fast and loose with the truth at any level thinking you`re going to get the same break as a democrat. Obama has lied left and right about his background and the “media” never called him on it. As active partners of the dems, they`ll turn this into a major attack on Ryan`s credibility.

The double standard is unfair and it sucks but Repubs know that going in. Don`t fudge the facts.. on anything. The oppo researchers will call you on it.


30 posted on 09/02/2012 3:17:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: HarleyD

They don’t think like the rest of us.


31 posted on 09/02/2012 3:32:35 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: snarkytart
Maybe, I mean this is like the THIRD time this story has been posted in several hours. Some here would probably love to keep this sh*t going until the R&R campaign was broke and thrown off course in order to lose this election. See, it’s all about showing the GOP-e what’s what.

This story's been hot on the Runners' World Beginners Forum for a day and a half now. Turned (of course) from a race discussion to a political discussion rather quickly. Naturally, the liberals started bashing Ryan and naturally, I stepped up and set the record straight.

It plays straight from the democrat party's latest mantra - that Ryan lies and can't be trusted. You saw it right after his speech when they tried to discredit his facts about the GM factory in his home town. And, of course, you saw the mainstream media spouting their latest talking points without even doing any REAL fact checking.

It's all part of the leftists' game. Commies at the DNC creat the latest news, the synchophants at the MSM broadcast it, and ignorant people believe it.

32 posted on 09/02/2012 3:35:30 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: HarleyD
“...so it will be interesting to see how the public reacts to Ryan carving a huge hunk out of his best time for the 26.2-mile race.”

Time for a useful comparison. Ryan was what 20 years old when he ran that marathon and he has already corrected his error. I am betting that his error is not quite up there with Bidenopolis, the chain toting Slurpee man with the Indian accent story, and his tiny plagiarism scandal that caused him to withdraw from the 1988 Presidential campaign but who knows, this could be big as a peanut.

33 posted on 09/02/2012 3:40:58 AM PDT by Dave Mellon
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To: meyer

If Joe Biden made the same mistake, we’d be snickering too.

The only difference is that there are way more of them in the MSM. We’ll probably be hearing about this for a while.

Sigh.


34 posted on 09/02/2012 3:44:30 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: funfan
22 years ago!! Does your husband remember the time from 22 years ago to the tee? I don't even think Obama or the Times remembers that gas was $1.79 a gallon in December 2008 and now it is $4.22 a gallon.

Exactly. If he was an avid marathoner, it would be inexcusable - having done it so long ago and moving on to other things just shows he doesn't have an eidetic memory - either that or he was baiting Obama and using sports intimidation "boasting" as a hedge...

35 posted on 09/02/2012 3:44:58 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Lancey Howard

Let’s not forget John Kerry’s Boston Marathon experience.

He served in Viet Nam, ya know.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1235989/posts


36 posted on 09/02/2012 3:48:31 AM PDT by Former War Criminal (Who am I? Why am I here?)
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To: HarleyD

Can someone remove this from “breaking news” so people waking up can actually partake in real news.

I dont come to FR for this type of bullshit.


37 posted on 09/02/2012 4:07:03 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: richardtavor

38 posted on 09/02/2012 4:09:50 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: HarleyD

It wasn’t a quibble. He exaggerated by more than an hour. But hey! Everybody lies about athletics.


39 posted on 09/02/2012 4:13:42 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: funfan

It took me sever minutes to remember what grade I was in 22 years ago

I think that was the year I won 3rd place in a foot race during Field Day...I think.


40 posted on 09/02/2012 4:18:33 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: xzins

“In normal circumstances, one doesn’t forget one’s best time by an hour. A sub 3 hour versus a 4 hour marathon is a huge difference.”

....

It’s 22 years ago and a frigging foot race, not your wedding anniversary.

My wife ran a 5K 5? 6? years ago. She told me she barely can vaguely remember the time.


41 posted on 09/02/2012 4:21:31 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: ScottinVA

Good news, this will all soon be forgotten.


42 posted on 09/02/2012 4:24:46 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: xzins

Details are only remembered by those who regularity participate in the sport. My wife is a frequent marathoner/triathlete and can recall most of her times.

However, even she thinks that to expect a one-timer to remember the details of a race that occurred over twenty years ago would be very unlikely. They focus on the “event”, not the “time”

However, it still baffles me that the press finds time to scrounge up this tidbit and the fact that Romney cut some kids hair in High School, yet still can’t find the college transcripts of our current president (after four years).


43 posted on 09/02/2012 4:26:40 AM PDT by MDspinboyredux
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To: MDspinboyredux
Details are only remembered by those who regularity participate in the sport.

That's correct. I'm presently a runner. I know my 5K PR time because it was run just a couple of months ago (and I'll hopefully beat it in tomorrow's race). Had it been a one-off marathon 20+ years ago, I'd be hard-pressed to remember my time unless I looked it up.

44 posted on 09/02/2012 4:31:34 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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To: HarleyD
If being quantitative is important to the extreme Left,
how about them explaining this?


45 posted on 09/02/2012 4:41:39 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: meyer

I’ve completed the distance 11 times in addition to a 40K, 50K, and a 50 mi. The 40K is technically not a marathon but if you add the warmups I exceeded the 42K (=26.2) threshhold. I also list it because it was perhaps my best racewalk performance in a national competition. My time was 4:03:15.


46 posted on 09/02/2012 4:42:35 AM PDT by jimfree (In Nov 2012 my 12 y/o granddaughter has more relevant&quality executive experience than Barack Obama)
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To: meyer

I have run three marathons. I can tell you that the pain of the last hour is something that you try to forget.


47 posted on 09/02/2012 4:44:29 AM PDT by Friend of the Friendless (R-Illinois)
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To: Lancey Howard
There is a big difference between recklessly, even if innocently, exaggerating an old marathon time with claiming to be a war veteran.

Pray tell, how do you do that?

A lie is a lie, not an "exaggeration."

48 posted on 09/02/2012 4:45:46 AM PDT by sauropod (Only two of God's creatures can employ the term "we": newspaper editors and men with tapeworms-Hayes)
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To: HarleyD

At least he's not boasting he was born in Kenya.

49 posted on 09/02/2012 4:53:09 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Friend of the Friendless
I have run three marathons. I can tell you that the pain of the last hour is something that you try to forget.

I have my inaugural half on November 10. Hoping to break 2 hours, but a more realistic time might be 2:10 based on my 15K performance back in April.

Even at 53 years of age, I'm still relatively new to this running thing (I have about 15 months experience). I'm still getting faster, but I also recognize that old age will eventually surpass 'beginners' gains' and my monthly PRs will stop.

50 posted on 09/02/2012 4:58:47 AM PDT by meyer (It's 1860 all over again - the taxpayer is the new "N" word)
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