Skip to comments.2 consenting adults and a cow ... Farmer's raw deal over raw milk scheduled for trial
Posted on 09/02/2012 4:47:26 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A trial that has become a symbol, in Wisconsin and across the U.S., of government criminalization of farmers for providing food directly to consumers has been rescheduled for January.
But the delay from the previously scheduled September court date is expected to focus even more attention on the dispute that has dragged Wisconsin dairy farmer Vernon Hershberger to the courts defendants table in the Sauk County Circuit Court, presided over by Judge Guy Reynolds.
The states case against the Loganville farmer has him accused of four misdemeanor counts of violating Wisconsins food and dairy code.
Officials with the Farm to Consumers Legal Defense Fund said Hershberger will be represented by the funds attorneys in the case, which already has created ripples across the industry.
In Wisconsin, while the state Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection once supported farmers who offered raw dairy through direct-to-consumer sales, officials said the state agency reversed its position under pressure from the Food and Drug Administration.
When the state legislature tried to block the newly developing crackdown on farmers who provide their products directly to consumers, the governor vetoed the proposal.
That leaves Hershberger facing the January trial on the four misdemeanor counts. He will be represented by Elizabeth Rich, the vice president of the fund, and a Wisconsin attorney.
Hershberger has been charged with operating a retail food establishment without a license, explains the fund, operating a dairy farm as a milk producer without a license and violating a holding order issued by the Wisconsin Department of Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection. The holding order prohibited anyone from removing food products from coolers that had been taped in Hershbergers farm store.
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I thought this was going to be about the new civil unions law in Brazil
Nanny State PING!
I wonder if this might end up at the Supreme Court. It might help in Wisconsin if the cows all belonged to a Union and had the mafia protecting this mis fits from selling milk direct.
It’s those damn Amish troublemakers again.
New addition to the Democratic Convention platform.
The peasants must not be allowed to purchase food that has not been adulterated by ADM.
Government mandated middleman. Job creation, doncha know.
This case represents the Nanny State at its worst and most officiously intrusive.
The next "marriage" push.
The title sounds like marriage in homotown.
There’s little economic clout to oppose such nannydom, unfortunately. Most are aware of the ubiquitous warnings on US restaurant menus about undercooked meat, eggs, and seafood. Well those warnings are what was left after American restaurant associations fought back tooth and nail against an outright Federal ban on serving such food that hadn’t been assessed (at great expense, per strict government protocol) for micro-organisms. Can natural milk dairies push back with this sort of vigor? They don’t have the clout that restaurants do. Warnings might be in order, but phooey on these bans.
A long time ago, these crazy dudes we call the Founders had this really neat idea about Freedom, and all the Freedoms Liberty contained.
One of these was the Right to private contract.
Now and the government that was originally to be based in Liberty has become the oppressor.
Not many Amish in Sauk County. I was born there and to the dismay of the gov., drank raw milk daily.
There are a lot of Amish there now. I grew up in Baraboo but live in SE Monroe county now.
Is it wrong to look forward do the day a bureaucrat looking to make an example of a citizen gets made an example of in return?
Why is it I’m never called to serve on a jury for a trial like this. I’d nullify this stupid law and have the defendant out of the courtroom in time for lunch.
Yep. So sodomites should have the “right” to practice acts which are known to have a high probablity of giving them fatal diseases, which the tax payers must pay for when they need treatment, but grown people can’t decide to drink raw milk. The left is very...particular...about just which dangerous acts are protected under freedom, and which are not. Of course, drinking raw milk doesn’t destroy the fabric of a moral and decent society, so it’s out-of-bounds.
Have you ever noticed that among all the reports of people getting deathly ill from things like ecoli, there don’t seem to be any farmers, or people who work around cattle and manure?
We can’t regulate against adults committing disgusting acts which lead to HIV/AIDS and other STDs, and higher probablitites of certain cancers, most usually requiring expensive treatment paid for by tax payers, many of whom don’t support said acts, but good heavens, can’t have grown people choosing of their own accord to drink untreated milk!
Then we need to legislate against sodomy, which carries a higher than normal degree of risk of both catching and communicating to others fatal diseases such as HIV/AIDs and other STDS, not to mention non-communicable diseases such as colon cancer.
The beauty of the free market is that if I and others get sick from someones product, we stop buying their product. Word gets around quickly that vendor x is not to be trusted.
Result: vendor x goes out of business, vendor y takes up the slack in the market (hopefully remembering how vendor x screwed up)...
In the first half of the twentieth century when lots of people still drank raw milk dairy farmers kept very clean dairy barns. I know this due to growing up on a dairy farm that had been in the family for over fifty years. The last Half of the century not so good. my father drove a route truck for the local dairy coop and I some times got to go with him. That is where I heard several times, who cares if it’s clean they are going to boil it dead anyway,. The farmers saying that never drank their own milk. We however did and kept a very clean milking barn. My family had well over 250 years of drinking raw milk with no illness due to the practice.
Is it really necessary to address every risk in human existence with a ban?
If someone wants to buy raw milk, and someone is willing to supply a safe source of raw milk, more power to both. It’s a test case. I will add though, I wouldn’t want to be unknowingly buying unpasteurized milk. There are good reasons for some laws
This was clearly a consenting adults situation. Nobody is complaining about regulations that require milk being sold to be pasteurized unless clearly labeled otherwise.
I grew up on raw milk, butter, whipped cream and anything else you can make from it.
My kids did the same when, I could find it. Farm-raised grandkids also.
Yes you CAN get sick but the chances are so small in the case of do-it-yourself milking and storing aand the benefits for outweigh the risk.
As for vaccinations..
I refused to have mine vaccinated after being lied to by my doctor who declaired that my 6-week old daughter’s “baby shots” caused her siezures which continued for 5 days!
I later found other moms whose babies had had similar reactions.
Then, later I was again lied to by the school who said that my twins couldn’t start school w/out being vaccinated so I reluctantly gave in. Boy twin GOT ALL THREE TYPES OF MEASLES from the very shot that was supposed to PREVENT them!
Same for most of my grandkids and great grands.
I find it strange indeed that anyone would advocate injecting substances such as mercury (I mean, if mercuerachrome (sp) can kill you??) and now at least 30% of vaccines use fetal tissue....
WHY would any caring person have this sh— injected into anyone they cared for?
Something called herd immunity, which prevents outbreaks of diseases by making sure most people are vaccinated.
I suppose that is why there is a consent stream of dead dairy farmers, and their family members, they usually drink their own cow’s milk raw. It’s amazing that with so many dead farmers that there are any dairy farms operating at all.
When food rules on sanitation and how the product was marketed were first enacted, it was because to protect consumers from disease and adulteration.
Now most food laws on the food and other ingredients are cooked up between big government and big food corporations. The rules mostly prevent those who produce food outside of contracts to deliver to the big corporations from direct sales to local consumers.
Raw milk from cows properly cared for and not sick from TB or dosed up on hormones and antibiotics is no danger to consumers. The danger is we would find it is tastier and more nutritious than big brand milk.
Farmers now can’t sell eggs unless rules like having refrigerators separate from other food items and not unless they have a state or federal permit. Farmers can’t kill, pluck and package a chicken unless they do all the applications, handling rules and sales reports companies as big as Tyson do, so farmers can only sell you a live chicken as a pet. Hogs and other meat animals have to have computer chip ear tags and records are kept from farm to the box of meat to stores. In short, forcing our food to pass through the corp/gov’t system.
If food is controlled, the serfs rebellions are short.
how true it is!!...I am 73, was raised in Wisconsin, 2 of my uncles were dairy farmers, and we all drank raw milk....some of it still warm!!!.
after the milkings, the milk was stored in large milk cans, in a cooler (iced water before electricity) until the milk truck came to pick it up and haul it to wherever!
meanwhile, the raw milk was enjoyed by all!!after that we gathered eggs from the chickencoop in 80-90 degree weather, took them in the house, grandma washed them and stored them in a large crockery jar covered with a dish towel on a pantry shelf........I don't recall anyone dying due to these obvious violations of current food handling/storage regulations...?????
I've been known to eat raw cookie dough and make steak tartare at home! I am major criminal - I sometimes drink more than 32oz of sweetened beverage, j walk, and don't separate my recycling.
Don't tell the FBI, but I also have a stockpile of incandescent light bulbs.
My reply posted on FB....
No matter what this state judge....at the behest of the FDA...whose regulated big ag facilities they deem safe kill thousands every year...NO YOU TRYRANT MF’s...I DO have the RIGHT to buy raw milk, fresh veggies, or WHATEVER I DAMN WELL PLEASE from whoever I please. And I DO have the RIGHT to feed these same food stuffs to my CHILDREN. I KNOW for a FACT that these foods you are trying to outlaw from commerce...ARE WAAAAY HEALTHIER AND BETTER than the MAss PRODUCED SLOP you say is ok to sell in a national chain grocery store. Even if they weren’t..It’s NONE of YOUR DAMN business what I choose to eat.
This is tyranny in it’s worse form....and it is born of greed and collusion between big ag and big gov...tyranny and fascism. It has happened before in history...the most obvious being Stalin and his genocide of the kulaks through starvation...which was started by taking over the food supply through law.
If the fact that our fed.gov is using the force of law...and raids on Amish selling RAW MILK using fully outfitted goon sqauds...if this doesn’t awaken the average American from his blissful ignorance of bling, boob tube, and Honey boo boo...then they deserve the chains of bondage that will soon bear around their necks.
Anyone know how to pack for the “Treatment Center” fed.gov takes folks like me to after saying the wrong thing on the net? I’m guessing one business casual for a hearing..then all jammies for actual confinement.
I know what the goons better be wearing if they come for me.....snakeboots....briarpants...insect repellant...and someone not afraid and properly equipped to move the copperheads that I will have posted up all around me. And I hope they ain’t scared of runnin face first into a huge writin spider nest or two...And oh yeah....hopefully I can find a hornet nest to knock down as they approach.
No one said having the feds coming after you couldn’t be fun.
"Herd immunity" is the prevention of common sense in large groups of people that prevents the kind of rot your spewing from getting you run out of town on a rail.
If vaccines worked, the unvaccinated wouldn't be a threat to the vaccinated. But the fact is that the unvaccinated have stronger immune systems than the vaccinated, who's immune systems have been damaged and compromised by mercury, squaline and being overwhelmed by multiple invasive stressors. As a result, in a given population, it is the vaccinated who will get sick - which would prove that vaccinations are crippling.
So instead, people like you pump out illogical garbage to reverse common sense, deny science, and support the crippling of children.
The only justice is that the hell for every single spasming, frothing at the mouth, brain damaged or unconscious child sits directly on your soul - and every one of "you" that push this slow mass murder.
At the end of the day, I hope that was clear.
See my post #39 - it applies to you, too.
Thanks for the ping!
Gee - raw milk is almost as dangerous as the raw vegetables available at every food store...
I don’t think it’s possible for a lot of people to be awakened. The powers-that-be are committing mass genocide/soft kill as it is. By poisoning the air and water, vaccinating, encouraging every kind of drug, and feeding us Franken-food, on top of the non-stop entertainment, too many people are in too much of a stupor to wake up.