I would vote for a Hindu against Obama."
I'd vote for Spicoli rather than Obama.
Posted on 09/02/2012 7:39:20 PM PDT by aposiopetic
BOSTON — The head of the prominent Marriott hotel chain and fellow Mormon J.W. Marriott thanked Mitt Romney today during a Mormon church service for bringing “positive attention” to the religion, which is often considered to be shrouded in mystery.
“There has never been as much positive attention to the church, thanks to the wonderful campaign of Mitt Romney and his family,” Marriott said during a service at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Wolfeboro, N.H., the lakeside town where the Romney family has a home.
Marriott’s remarks come after a noticeable shift in the campaign to highlight Romney’s faith, a subject that has been rarely spoken about publicly by the candidate and his wife until last week, when both mentioned Mormonism in their speeches at the Republican National Convention. Additionally, several speakers arranged by the campaign to appear at the RNC highlighted the candidate’s strong ties to his faith.
Romney and Ann Romney, who sat six rows back in the church this morning, showed little reaction to Marriott’s testimony, according to a small group of reporters who accompanied the couple inside.
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As you know, I do not claim expertise in LDS matters. That said, I am thinking Mr. Marriott’s remarks are significant.
I would vote for a Hindu against Obama.
As long at that candidate was more conservative than Obama, that candidate would have my vote.
Obama must go.
Significant, as here, and not odd, mysterious or conspiratorial. That is, I would take it as confirmation of an established and meaningful relationship that is presumably constructive.
I as well am glad that mormonism is being highlighted, it’s about time people learned of mormonism blasphemy against God Almighty.
Thank you, Mr Mattiott (the hotel chain owner with the largest distribution of hotel porn), for making this issue a headline.
The religion is Christianity. Mormon (Later Day Saints) is a denomination like Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, Amish, Presbyterian, etc.
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The article seemed worthy of posting because the close connection between the Marriotts and the Romneys is becoming part of what is being presented to the voters.
“Marriott thanked Mitt Romney today during a Mormon church service for bringing “positive attention” to the religion . . .”
The religion is Christianity. Mormon (Later Day Saints) is a denomination like Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, Amish, Presbyterian, etc.”
Nope, sorry. Mormonism might be thrown in there for categorical stats, but it’s not part of Christianity. They themselves deem them not to be “Christian” but distinctly “mormon”.
Governor Romney’s actual first name is Willard. He was named after family friend, hotel magnate J. Willard Marriott, and his father’s cousin, Milton “Mitt” Romney, a former quarterback for the Chicago Bears.
LDS: nice people, weird religion.
Positive attention is positive attention. Its scope is something I hadn’t considered. I posted mostly because there is more of significance here than in the Charlotte protests and other washouts.
I would vote for a Hindu against Obama."
I'd vote for Spicoli rather than Obama.
Because Jay Cutler hails from Santa Claus, Indiana, or thereabouts, does that portend a political future for him?
Hmmm. Odd considering that Marriott advertises as Gay-Friendly..
I get that.
Romney served on the board of Marriott, for a time, by the way.
My primary point is that I am happy mormonism is being brought to the forefront, I want people to know what it really is.
(Don’t you find it interesting that Marriott being run by mormons, promoted by mormons has been the largest distributor of hotel porn?)
Depends of course who you ask. Catholics lump them along with all evangelicals as heretics. Lutheran? Mormon? It’s all out there somewhere in hell to them.
From an evangelical/biblical view, they are in some technical sense a “Christian” religion, in the sense that other historical church heresies are “Christian” even though defining Jesus Christ as being incapable of salvation in the traditional sense.
Nope and nope again.
mormonism is NOT Christianity.
If you really beleive that, you are wrong.
Shouldnt this thread be in the Religion Forum ???
The subject is about a religion, Mormonism...
LDS winks broadly at the gay crowd. Technically they shouldn’t. They never got themselves one of their famous revelation updates telling them to do an about face on homosexuality.
mormonism is to Christianity as sitting on the kitchen counter and calling yourself a toaster - neither are true.
They believe Jesus is the Son of God and are therefor totally saved but “legalistic “ beyond belief!!Not necessary. All Are saved by belief- John 3:16
The question is whether they even identify the actual Jesus Christ any more. You can meet the actual Jesus Christ, badly misunderstand Him, and still be saved because He is who He is. But if you call something else Jesus Christ, you are out of luck.
No they do not.
mormonsim teaches you must work for salvation, there is no Grace.
The mormonism jesus is not eternal or sufficient.
The mormonism god is one of many, and was once a man.
mormonism is not in any sense of the Word Christianity.
mormonism is not legalistic it is a made up gobbly gook from a con man who wanted to bed young girls and other men’s wives.
No. It is a separate branch from Christianity. Joe Smith made up his own thing and rejected some basic Christian beliefs.
(If your premise is correct, yes. I didn’t do a search on hotel porn before posting, admittedly.)
Interesting. Describe for me the “actual Jesus Christ” But you agree that Mormons and Catholics are as saved as you are — right?
You Mam are a bigot. Mormons are wonderful saved folks.You are a sinner.Right?
I posted the article because I saw it on Yahoo or Google in a category related to the election rather than religion. I am not LDS yet have never said a negative word about LDS here (or, I hope, elsewhere), so I saw this as a political, rather than a religious, topic. I apologize if I erred in the process.
mormonism does not Save, Christ does.
mormonism does not Save, Christ does.
As you posted it in News, FReepers may not feel free to comment because the purpose behind the article appears to be religious and not political...
Don’t lump Roman Catholics and Mormons in the same handful and expect a sensible answer to such a question.
When one looks at any religion other than their own, it usually looks weird. That is because during your formative years before adulthood, you are exposed almost without an exception only to the rituals of your own religion.
When I arrived in US at a young age (barely out of teens) I knew of only of one religion, being born in a Hindu family. Most people I met here were Christians and I thought they were weird.
But then as I matured, I learned to find positive qualities in individuals and Christians were no longer weird to me. I even married a Christian woman.
I have met a few Mormons during my 40 year career in US and I can’t think of any one I disliked personally. So I have to conclude their religion has not turned them into weirdo’s like strapping bombs and blowing up civilian bystanders as some other religions.
At a minimum, the “actual Jesus Christ” lives up to every single thing documented about Him in a Bible that has more historical witnesses to its text than any other book. You can hypothesize a being that, instead of this, lives up to the Mormon description. But if you call to it, don’t complain if the Jesus Christ documented in the bible doesn’t answer.
I will add one more positive for the Church of LDS today. I’ve been trying (with some degree of failure) to research my Dad’s side of the family. Virtually all of the genealogy sites charge or at least require registration. The Mormons’ site is absolutely free. Sometimes, all you need is a name & thanks to them, I found that name which took me all the way back to Ireland. They’re not money-grubbers, for sure.
Their salvation is between them & God. We need to keep them in our prayers imho.
Mr. Marriott is not a leader in the Church. He is a member. Each month, on the 1st Sunday of the month, all of the Church congregations have what is called a fast and terstimony meeting. For the prior 24 hours members are encouraged to fast and then donate what they save from the two meals they miss to the church for the express purpose of helping the needy.
Then, the meeting is open to the congregation for anyone who so desires to come forward and testify about Jesus Christ, the Scriptures, the founding of the church, spiritual experiences they may have had, etc.
That was the type of meeting being help and apparently Mr. Mariott took the occassion to stand and thank Mitt Romney.
Nothing unusual about that, that sort of things happens in thousands of congregations each 1st Sunday of the month...but rarely is it reported in the press.
Because of Romney being under the microscope now, I doubt much will transpire in public with him that is not reported on in one way or another. Detractors will try and make something out of it...some conspiracy I suppose or such...but there is nothing unusual or conspiratorial about it.
Fair enough. I don’t know the motives of the author. I just was naively thinking of the election itself, since we find ourselves in the middle of the party conventions. But if it is religious and I should have posted it differently, I apologize.
You have had the good fortune never to have met a Harry Reid Mormon, who although not planning any suicide bombing would still drive you crazy with his social ideas.
It’s a worldly organization with all the faults that worldly organizations are prone to. They mostly are nice, like Moose (as in BPOM, not Mohammed) and Masons are generally nice. Nobody should be surprised.
Mormonism looks a lot like someone took a pretty much vanilla evangelical creed, changed its doctrines around a bit for variety, then stuck a science fiction saga right in the middle complete with stars and planets that can be visited. Joseph Smith could have been a very good early science fiction writer had he so purposed his pen. This is what makes it weird.
mormonism is not Christianity.
Joseph Smith and Ron L Hubbard are anti-soul brothers.
Tracing a family tree is important to some Mormon rituals. Given that they believe this, yes they at least are being charitable about it when they could charge for facilitating an ecclesiastical favor.
Although I and many others here disagree with various actions and positions of Mr. Romney, I have yet to hear a believable story of his having treated someone wrongly. If Mr. Marriott knows Mr. Romney to be someone who can be relied upon to do the right thing, I am glad he spoke up.
Hubbard got on the train a bit late, but he definitely sniffed out a theme that sold in the spiritual realm.
Thanks for your reply. May we all reject nihilistic and destructive solutions like suicide-bombing.
There is no conspiracy.
It is called the exposure of mormonism.
Mr. Marriott the head of Marriott where Romney once served on the board, is the biggest distributor of hotel porn.......
The exposure of mormonism is a good thing, hopefully even mormons who do not know the foundation and inner teachings see God Almighty’s Light and flee the blasphemy, called mormonism.
“Catholics lump them along with all evangelicals as heretics. Lutheran? Mormon? It’s all out there somewhere in hell to them.”
Wrong. If a Catholic tells you that, tell them to take it up with the Pope.
“It follows that these separated churches and Communities, though we believe they suffer from defects, are deprived neither of significance nor importance in the mystery of salvation. In fact the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as instruments of salvation, whose value derives from that fullness of grace and of truth which has been entrusted to the Catholic Church”— Pope B16, Dominus Iesus
And as far as LDS, Catholics don’t accept their baptism as the LDS understanding of the Trinity isn’t the same, while with all nonCatholic Christians it is. Which seems reasonable to me.
As far as Christian faiths claiming that another isn’t Christian, there’s a vocal minority of nonCatholic Christians who go beyond thinking the Catholic Church is wrong on many grave things to thinking Catholics aren’t Christians. FR actually banned some of the things produced from this wackadoo-ism, and they didn’t come from LDS.
Freegards
Prayer is definitely good.
The dog carrier on the roof, and the scissors. I haven’t heard of other things in that vein.
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