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Komen controversy drags down San Francisco breast cancer walk participation
San Jose Mercury News ^ | 9/2/12 | Julia Prodis Sulek

Posted on 09/02/2012 9:02:34 PM PDT by SmithL

SAN FRANCISCO -- The last time Alice Heiman participated in the Susan G. Komen walk in San Francisco to raise money for breast cancer, she gathered a group of friends and made a big trip from her home in Reno to support a cause close to her heart.

This year, though, nine months after the national organization sparked outrage when it refused to fund Planned Parenthood, she's ignoring donation requests that keep popping up in her inbox and has no plans for a return trip.

She's not alone. Just days before Sunday's 5k Race for the Cure along the Embarcadero in San Francisco, registration is down about 50 percent from last year. Donations to the local chapter are down as well, nearly 65 percent, to $76,000 so far this year compared with $212,000 at this time last year.

And that's despite the fact that the Susan G. Komen for the Cure's San Francisco-Bay Area affiliate denounced within a day the controversial move in January by the Dallas-based headquarters to stop funding Planned Parenthood. The national board had cited a new rule that excludes funding groups under federal investigation. Planned Parenthood, which provides abortion services along with breast cancer screenings and other care, was the subject of an investigation launched by a Florida congressman who opposes abortion. Within days, however, the national organization reversed its decision after public outcry, fueled by social media postings that went viral.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; breastcancer; flipflop; komen; plannedparenthood

1 posted on 09/02/2012 9:02:43 PM PDT by SmithL
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Of course Planned Parenthood doesn’t care what happens to Komen. They got Komen to back down, and that was the important thing.


2 posted on 09/02/2012 9:04:54 PM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Komen ate PP crow and they still are getting dissed by the abortion lovers. What’s a mother to do.


3 posted on 09/02/2012 9:05:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: SmithL

Komen might as well walk away from PP again and say that they mean it this time. Appeasing bullies like this is stupid.


4 posted on 09/02/2012 9:06:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: SmithL

I think the thing people forget about is komen pissed off both groups who saw it as politically pandering both ways, so now they are loosing on both sides of this.


5 posted on 09/02/2012 9:07:31 PM PDT by dila813
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I like to think its the other way around. Lots of pro life folks found out that Komen was financing mass murder on an industrial scale and are withholding their money and support. Leave it to the legacy media to spin thIngs their way.


6 posted on 09/02/2012 9:07:36 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: SmithL

This column is bizarre. Komen donations are down because the organization supports Planned parenthood.


7 posted on 09/02/2012 9:10:56 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lurker

While not much of the Komen budget went to PP, it was definitely the principle in either case. In a saner world, Komen would have stood pat about not donating more to PP until PP could certify to Komen’s satisfaction that the funds were going only to mammograms (or any other anti breast cancer service that PP might add in the future). And Komen would have made it quite clear that it would accept only such conditions from PP and would not be bullied. This is the fly that makes the Komen ointment stink.


8 posted on 09/02/2012 9:11:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Lancey Howard

It would seem not that difficult to investigate.

Komen really ought to pull itself out of PP until and unless PP can guarantee the funds will only go to mammograms and the like. I know about “freeing up money” of general donations for the abortion side of their business, but that would be a minimum acceptable beginning.


9 posted on 09/02/2012 9:13:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Lurker

It is not JUST financing Mass Murder which is really bad-—but, they are an organization fighting “breast cancer” that is funding abortions which are directly LINKED to CAUSING breast cancer.

How stupid and bizarre and evil.


10 posted on 09/02/2012 9:14:03 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
But money is fungible. Any funds Komen provided PP for cancer screenings would have freed other monies for the murder mills.

They made a principled decision, then reneged.

That reversal will continue to hurt them--especially since there is research which shows an apparent link between artificially terminated pregnancy and breast cancer.

11 posted on 09/02/2012 9:18:05 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: savagesusie

Yep, and that’s something PP really likes to dance around. Letting a woman get in a hormonal condition as in mid pregnancy then poof, removing the unborn baby, is an unnatural condition. Had she gone all the way to delivering the baby, she would be in less risk for contracting breast cancer. PP really seems to have no heart — if you ask PP about adoption it would be as if you spoke to them in Greek.


12 posted on 09/02/2012 9:20:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yes, there is the fungibility issue. But darn it, if I buy those yogurts with the Komen caps, I at least want to know I didn’t donate directly to abortions. Now THAT would stink.


13 posted on 09/02/2012 9:22:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

these people are obsessed with abortion. Just obsessed.


14 posted on 09/02/2012 9:30:44 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo

PP sure is.

As are most liberals.


15 posted on 09/02/2012 9:38:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: SmithL

My wife’s a breast cancer survivor. We don’t give Komen a penny.


16 posted on 09/02/2012 9:44:19 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: SmithL
And that's despite the fact that the Susan G. Komen for the Cure's San Francisco-Bay Area affiliate denounced within a day the controversial move in January by the Dallas-based headquarters to stop funding Planned Parenthood.

(Emphasis added)

What a strange article. Perhaps I am misinterpreting, but Author Julia Sulek's thesis here seems to be that people stopped donating to Komen because they were upset with its temporary suspension of support for Planned Parenthood. Did Sulek consider the possibility that former Komen donors did not realize that they were funding abortions until the controversy made that clear?

I think the "despite" in the quote above should be "because of."

17 posted on 09/02/2012 9:45:48 PM PDT by TChad
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To: HiTech RedNeck

These organizations really do *hate* women-—they want to inject their bodies with all these cancer-causing toxins to prevent natural processes so men can use them like toilet paper and never commit-—and they have the nerve to call themselves “pro-woman” .

People who control the language, control the appropriate “thoughts”. We need to start doing what the Pro-Life movement did-—and take back the language and quite using sugary words to cover the EVIL of such organizations.

PP is a woman hating organization which is trying to make women hate their biological offspring and actually get them to kill their own genetic offspring.
It is really evil. They also are for flooding the body with toxins which causes cancer and who-knows-what-else. Such evil organizations are IN the public schools also brainwashing boys and girls into the culture of death.


18 posted on 09/02/2012 9:50:55 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

Contraception seems like such a tame thing next to abortion nowadays.

But anything that cheapens sex to the point that marriage itself doesn’t matter to the sex, is a baleful influence. If a woman asks a doctor for the Pill today, the doctor gets in dutch if he wants to know if the woman is single.


19 posted on 09/02/2012 9:55:06 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: TChad

These people are so blind - they’re aware of the backlash from the pro-abortion crowd but it doesn’t even occur to them how incensed the pro-life people are, and that they’ve completely stopped their donations to that organization.


20 posted on 09/02/2012 10:01:43 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Komen really ought to pull itself out of PP until and unless PP can guarantee the funds will only go to mammograms and the like. I know about “freeing up money” of general donations for the abortion side of their business, but that would be a minimum acceptable beginning.

I don't think it would. Nobody would buy into that kind of weasel scheme. As you inferred, donation money is fungible.

Komen should, like the Boy Scouts did with the homos, tell the abortion enthusiasts to go play in the street. Komen should simply state that the organization has decided to focus on its nonpartisan, primary mission of battling breast cancer and will no longer associate with any organization that may be viewed as politically controversial. Period.

As it stands, Komen is now a Democrat organization. No wonder donations are down.

21 posted on 09/02/2012 10:03:04 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The Doctors do not know all the harm the Pill does, for it has known toxins in it and destroys the way the body naturally functions.

Pharmaceutical companies have way too much power in this government—even control over the research centers. it is a crime. Our girl’s health is being compromised as our water supply is being filled with female hormones.

Great society the liberals, who are so environmental “friendly”, are making. They are evil.


22 posted on 09/02/2012 10:14:42 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: SmithL

how did Planned Parenthood Corporation get entitled to money from charities??


23 posted on 09/02/2012 10:20:57 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SmithL
walk in San Francisco to raise money for breast cancer

To raise money to pay for the walks. Isn't that all they do - throw walk-parties?

24 posted on 09/02/2012 10:24:01 PM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: SmithL

I was shocked by the overwhelming response from cancer caring individuals that it’s an unacceptable position to actively support Life.

I get don’t get the emotional discount to the welfare of noobs. It makes no sense to me whatsoever.


25 posted on 09/02/2012 10:25:31 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: SmithL

I couldn’t read the entire article because of some technical glitch, but what makes them think the donations are down because of the initial backing out of donating to PP. Betcha donations are down because they reversed their decision. I won’t donate to SJK because of their support of PP.


26 posted on 09/02/2012 10:27:51 PM PDT by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: SmithL

Komen got the double edged sword. Once for defunding, and again for refunding. They should have stayed with the original intent of the charity, breast cancer. Cozy up to abortion and reap the penalty


27 posted on 09/02/2012 10:29:22 PM PDT by Figment
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To: HiTech RedNeck

It doesn’t matter what Komen funds were earmarked for. They were going to the general fund of PP and supporting abortion, period


28 posted on 09/02/2012 10:32:28 PM PDT by Figment
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To: aquila48
These people are so blind

It is hard to believe that anyone could be so blind, but I read the article again and I believe it. The author of the article did not even consider the possibility that people had stopped donating to Komen BECAUSE of its continuing financial support for abortions.

Look at this ridiculous quote:

"When everything played out, my opinion is they realize they made a mistake," Reed said. "The women who pushed them into that decision left the organization. They apologized and gave back their funding (to Planned Parenthood). Let's move on. It's a great cause. You don't throw the baby out with the bath water."

Not quite the best adage to use here, because you do throw the baby out with the other medical waste, now don't you?

We're into "liberalism is a mental illness" territory.

29 posted on 09/02/2012 10:37:15 PM PDT by TChad
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To: All; SmithL

I avoid any retail product “donating to breast cancer” because it might be Komen in disguise.


30 posted on 09/02/2012 10:38:38 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 63 days away.)
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To: SmithL

It was a worthwhile charity that turned into a money-hungry business.

I’m surprised they haven’t tried to patent pink.


31 posted on 09/02/2012 10:45:36 PM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: SmithL

I no longer give to any charity other than my church charities and St. Judes. Until this Koman revelation I did not realize that the charity I was donating to could just give it away for another cause.


32 posted on 09/02/2012 11:46:25 PM PDT by brightright
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To: SmithL

I attribute this to Komen backing down and going back to funding a baby killing organization. Until someone presents some evidence why is my explanation not as good as the wishful explanation of the left?


33 posted on 09/03/2012 12:09:23 AM PDT by JLS
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To: Sans-Culotte

I’m a breast cancer survivor as of April ‘12, *I* don’t give Komen a penny either!


34 posted on 09/03/2012 12:33:40 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I was going to walk in Tampa until I found out they support planned parenthood. I also stopped giving donations to other walkers and let them know why.


35 posted on 09/03/2012 3:03:34 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Sans-Culotte
SGK for the Cure seems to me nothing but another marketing fundraising organization that, after expenses, doles out money to preferred activities, Planned Parenthood among them.

Albeit, the focus here is on breast cancer, the same sorts of cancer cure endeavors are actively pursued by other organizations.

Last year, the CEO was paid about a half a million with Komen's sister pulling in a cool $417K (a nice hefty salary for decades I guess).

It pulled in about $400 million in donations, 20% was spent on "research" [whatever that was] other funds were spent on awareness, screening...marketing, fundraising, salaries and foundation costs..... Between 2008 and 2010 it paid almost $2million in severance costs - for what? Why?

http://themoderatevoice.com/137410/komen-severance-bill-estimated-at-1-9-million-for-2008-2010/

Think about all this if you plan to give them any money

36 posted on 09/03/2012 4:09:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Lurker

Right you are. A woman I know, who is a breast cancer surviver had been a big believer in the charity but stopped taking part a few years ago when she discovered just how the money was being spent. This is another case of the media distorting things to their advantage.


37 posted on 09/03/2012 4:42:58 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: SmithL
The paper would have us believe it is the abortionists who are mad at Komen, but why? Komen has bowed down to PP & is now a happy abortion supporter. It makes no sense to boycott a charity that has now fallen in line with Leftist theology. Komen’s pro-life leadership is gone, so “where's the beef”? The abortionists should be celebrating Komen's purge & reeducation.

Reading the comments by angry former donors, many cite the PP controversy, but none say (edited out?) whether they favor or oppose PP, so it is difficult to tell exactly why they are angry. The one clear abortionist (Reed) was participating in the walk, so he must have been satisfied with the outcome.

Looks to me like it is pro-life donors to Komen who realized their money was going to PP, so they stopped donating to Komen. There are plenty of openly pro-life charities that do NOT support PP. That is where the money went, I'm betting.

Fact is, Conservatives are far bigger charitable donors than Liberals, so if big bucks are not coming Komen’s way any more, I doubt it is the Joe Bidens of this country who are donating less to Komen.

Komen will continue to decline precisely because they now openly support PP. The American Left has now become so toxic that it destroys everything it influences.

38 posted on 09/03/2012 5:43:00 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: dila813

And it doesn’t make any difference whether there is a Komen Foundation or not. Some of these charities are scams and just because Komen donations are down doesn’t mean that some other cancer foundation isn’t getting the money. Let’s see if Komen lays off staff or lowers their giving to compensate. Komen is not too big to fail.


39 posted on 09/03/2012 5:48:41 AM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.patriotcalendars.com/)
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To: savagesusie

An organization devoted to a cause will not exist when the “cause” goes away. This does not apply to the government, however.


40 posted on 09/03/2012 5:50:26 AM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.patriotcalendars.com/)
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To: rabidralph

PP doesn’t do one mammogram.

Plus, if you really thought about it, birth control pills increase
the risk of breast cancer because of the hormones. Safe at any speed?
Well not Safe at any dose.

Thus it makes no sense to fund PP.

Komen is a sick fraud.


41 posted on 09/03/2012 6:39:42 AM PDT by preamble
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To: Lurker

I like to think its the other way around. Lots of pro life folks found out that Komen was financing mass murder on an industrial scale and are withholding their money and support. Leave it to the legacy media to spin thIngs their way.
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perfect. you nailed it.


42 posted on 09/03/2012 7:04:54 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: savagesusie

“...abortions which are directly LINKED to CAUSING breast cancer.”

How stupid and bizarre and evil.
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another great point. which is increasingly hard to find now.
many years ago, i did research, and found studies going back decades, showing a HUGE increase in risk of breast cancer.
then, last year, i did a similar google search...
found all kinds of “new” official goverment studies, etc., showing no link whatsover...
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(kind of like how the government went back and altered 100 year old temperature measurements, to make the slope greater... ...”1984” stuff.)


43 posted on 09/03/2012 7:11:44 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Figment
Komen got the double edged sword. Once for defunding, and again for refunding. They should have stayed with the original intent of the charity, breast cancer. Cozy up to abortion and reap the penalty
I think you nailed it. In the space of just a couple of days, Komen managed to alienate everyone who has ever given money to them.
44 posted on 09/03/2012 11:37:50 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: Elendur

They do the same thing on homosexuality-—they erase all evidence of Hitler’s sexual perversity and his homosexual SA Brownshirts——and then claim that “Lincoln” is a homosexual.

They force science to remove homosexuality from the mental ill list so they can normalize the behavior to young children and in the movies to corrupt the kids and eliminate sexual morality which will destroy all long term relationships and destroy any offspring they have-—make them into emotional cripples.

The Marxists have been altering books and history and research —paying for the “right’ outcomes and making sure the newspapers slant all the news to give the “correct” perception since before Whittaker Chambers wrote “Witness” in 52.

In other words-—they cover up the Truth. Media/schools are complicit.

Critical Theory in schools is to make children hate everything their Grandparents loved-—and flip their morality to the Satanist/occultist/excrement type. The Judeo-Christian God is vilified and ridiculed.


45 posted on 09/03/2012 9:34:35 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Lancey Howard

“Komen donations are down because the organization supports Planned parenthood.”

Yep. Leftist media: there’s only one side that
is righteous enough to cause a dip in support
for Komen. It’s the left.

Ignore all that the right does because the
narrative is that the right is ashamed of
its positions.

Tell this story enough times and a number
in the populace won’t even consider the
political philosophy of the right.

This leftist news-media advocacy actually
works to some extent, sorry to say....


46 posted on 09/03/2012 10:40:21 PM PDT by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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