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If Only D'Souza Were Right (from the Austrian School)
Ludwig von Mises Institute ^ | September 1, 2012 | Gary North

Posted on 09/02/2012 10:49:10 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin

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To: Eccl 10:2
Obama is Bush on steroids. So if you hated Bush, you must REALLY loathe Obama.

That's a point worth making to young hard core liberals. The guy who promised them all kinds of things did none of them. Gitmo is still open, the war in Afghanistan is still ongoing, and the Patriot Act is alive and well. Some of the idealistic young voters will realize that the President is just more of what President Bush was.

More importantly, when they try to rationalize why President Obama kept Gitmo, the war, and the Patriot Act, they'll hopefully start to have a more mature view of politics.

Note: No point in wasting one's breath on established older liberals, they'll just spin up some irrational excuse.

61 posted on 09/03/2012 4:42:59 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Lancey Howard

Try the slimy ex-Whig political tyrant who destroyed the Republic, Abe Lincoln!


62 posted on 09/03/2012 4:44:09 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Arec Barrwin

“Miss this, and you miss the whitewash. This documentary is an implicit whitewash. It relies on an assumption, namely, that we are not dealing in 2012 with a single political administration, which began in January 2001.”

I just saw the movie and did not think that this section was in any way not factual and well documented. In leaving out the unfunded future liabilities, I will give the benefit of the doubt to D’Souza simply because it is so easy to get lost in the weeds. He kept is simple with facts that nobody can dispute and not having to get bogged down in explaining the concept of net present value, etc. The simple facts are powerful enough to make the point about BHO.

And with respect to Bush 43, it is one thing to say he approved of TARP and thus started the country down the present road, but it is another thin entirely to speculate that Bush would have continued with the same trilions in deficits that BHO did. Bush was honestly trying to rescue the financial system, even as he did not sufficiently defend the free market were as I accept D’Souza’s assertion that BHO wants to shackle the US with wealth-leveling debt.

In other words, under Bush we get bigger government. Under BHO, we get big and then Bigger government. They are similar but the magnitude and goals are different.

In any case, the left loves to scold us about “sustainability” while their deficit spending is certainly not sustainable. There are only so many jelly beans in the jar and we have exhausted our ability to write paper script for far more jelly beans than we can possibly ever produce. If the next Republican administration doesn’t understand that, we are just as doomed and the only issue is when.


63 posted on 09/03/2012 4:50:06 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Arec Barrwin

Many of us here on FR are still very angry at Bush for his squandering of the opportunity we laid before him in his 2nd term (re-election and a GOP Congress) and his lack of policing of Wall St.

But my understanding of D’Souza’s film is that the budget deficit is a side issue and the main issue focuses on the true political agenda of the current occupant of the White House.

Obama continued the war policies of Bush because his managers wanted to ‘ease’ him into commanding the ship while preparing America for a fundamental change to a weakened socialist entity that would eventually pay tribute and justice to other nations for the purported neo-colonial abuse that was rendered to these countries.


64 posted on 09/03/2012 4:50:30 AM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: Pontiac

The Brits tried to Christianize them and the Soviets tried to Communize them. Neither effort had a positive end so the weight of history says your proposal needs to remain on the shelf.

Two possible alternatives beyond the pure cut/run: retain a Special Forces presence to act as they did in 2001 (good read - The Horse Soldiers) or go totally stand-off with drones.


65 posted on 09/03/2012 4:53:33 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: dfwgator

Spot on. The parallels between Hoover + FDR and Bush + Obama are uncanny.


66 posted on 09/03/2012 4:58:32 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Arec Barrwin
North is as big a fool on military analysis as he points out Bush to have been economically.

When you are stupid in one of the areas of primary importance to what you are writing about (no matter how brilliant you might be in the other areas) then all you are capable of producing is dreck.

The editors at the Von Mises Institute should have skimmed this dross off the top and published something else.

Because, contrary to the rantings of this ridiculous buffoon it matters what sides you are supporting in conflicts and the advisability of actions is not the same when you go switching what you are propping up.

Here is a clue for North, and for people who are too damned stupid to think he had some point worthy of addressing.

Israel is the eight hundred pound nuclear gorilla of the middle east.
They admitted openly to a two hundred warhead nuclear arsenal when the Oslo Accords were negotiated in 1998. Some military analysts believe they began adding twenty five to thirty five warheads per year ... and now it has been fourteen years.

Israel is not going to be snuffed out of existence without exhausting that arsenal. Do the math. North, evidently lacks the capacity.

67 posted on 09/03/2012 5:16:34 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Gary North shows what happens to a brain on drugs. As I recall, it was Al-Qaeda that attacked us and Saddam who encouraged them and was preparing to arm them with WMDs.


68 posted on 09/03/2012 5:17:37 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Lancey Howard
FDR and LBJ’ with his “Great Society” where the dems thought locking people in poverty was a great idea.
69 posted on 09/03/2012 5:19:01 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Arec Barrwin

My gut tells me Bush conceded on Medicare spending to maintain support for the war.
Bush started term 2 with an ambitious plan to rework SS, as he recognized the HUGE unfunded liability. Bush lost a lot of political capital on that initiative.
Third, Bush tried to reign in Freddie/Fanny and the housing bubble. The progs in the Democrat party/media crucified Bush and reassured that all was just fine.

We can now look back and confirm all was not fine


70 posted on 09/03/2012 5:35:20 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: All

The Federal Reserve is not standing for election. The President is. The author of the article misses the entire point.


71 posted on 09/03/2012 5:42:59 AM PDT by Valentine Michael Smith (You won't find justice in a Courtroom)
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To: nathanbedford

Instead of having a ‘tyranny of the majority’ that the Founders sought to protect us from, we are living under the absolute tyranny of the MINORITY which we enabled. It is called the US Government.
The day that the US established a full time sitting congress was the day the Constitution died.


72 posted on 09/03/2012 5:48:16 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: pallis

You are so right on!!!


73 posted on 09/03/2012 5:53:39 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Lancey Howard

I think that is correct but he time of the Bush administration is when the line between flirting with disaster and inevitability of disaster was crossed.


74 posted on 09/03/2012 6:04:53 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: rwoodward

Reagan was the only president wince Cal Coolidge who knew how things actually work- who understood economics. All of the others since Coolidge have believed that the Experts have to manipulate the markets to keep them free. Until the kenyan. He doesn’t even want the gloss of a free market mirage.


75 posted on 09/03/2012 6:09:51 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: dfwgator

The difference between Hoover and Roosevelt was that Hoover’s measures, which later were FDR’s measures, were denied by the USSC. Hoover lost office because he was president during the Crash itself. FDR was able to appoint sufficient new Justices to the Court that the measures finally stood.


76 posted on 09/03/2012 6:13:38 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Too bad he completely MISSES the reason for the movie.


77 posted on 09/03/2012 6:14:21 AM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Arec Barrwin
I think one of the first acts of a Romney administration should be to slash Medicare Part D. Since it was passed without a funding source, no one can make the claim that they deserve because they payed for it.
78 posted on 09/03/2012 6:18:25 AM PDT by oincobx
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To: Lancey Howard
FDR did not continue Hoover's polìes because Hoover could not get them past the Court.FDR's polices, at least the first massive assault on the Free Market were, indeed Hoover's polices. The difference was that FDR was successful. He got them enacted and past his Court.
79 posted on 09/03/2012 6:22:36 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: Lancey Howard
FDR did not continue Hoover's policìes because Hoover could not get them past the Court.FDR's polices, at least the first massive assault on the Free Market were, indeed Hoover's polices. The difference was that FDR was successful. He got them enacted and past his Court.
80 posted on 09/03/2012 6:22:51 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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