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Obama facing mounting questions over 'you didn't build that' remark
Washington Post ^ | Sept 2, 2012 | Amy Gardner

Posted on 09/03/2012 12:32:51 AM PDT by Innovative

After being pummeled for days at the Republican National Convention for his remark that business owners "didn't build that," President Obama heads to the Democratic National Convention in North Carolina this week facing mounting questions about how he will respond to charges that he is hostile to free enterprise.

On Sunday, senior Obama advisers suggested that they will not address the anti-business allegations directly but will instead try to turn the tables on their GOP rivals by accusing them of being dishonest about what Obama meant.

Nevertheless, there are signs that they see a vulnerability. Obama has not repeated the words that sparked the controversy, and he has toned down the broader argument - that government help is essential to business success - in the six weeks since he ad-libbed the line near the end of a long campaign swing.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; bhofascism; democrats; elections; fail; obama; youdidntbuildthat
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That is exactly what he meant, that businesses can't succeed without government help -- the antithesis of the principles upon which this country was founded and flourished.

Government with ever more regulations stifles the economy and business, not helps them.

1 posted on 09/03/2012 12:33:03 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Emperor Zero should try to start a new business someday within a market/field where all the business and academic experts claim the business cannot be done. Then fight the entire establishment every step of the way as you market the appeal of the new product the business is promoting. Some of us have done that.


2 posted on 09/03/2012 12:43:27 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Innovative

It’s a pretty interesting piece.

I think if we get those empty chairs out there tomorrow we can maybe expect another WaPo piece.....

Obama faces mounting questions over empty chairs.

We are keeping them off balance.

There was a little sign in a bodega I used to shop in in Brooklyn, years ago (and yes, the proprietress DID build it) regarding why you couldn’t buy on credit: Better you mad than me mad.

Better them mad than us mad.


3 posted on 09/03/2012 12:45:55 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: justa-hairyape

Fedex him a list.


4 posted on 09/03/2012 12:46:24 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Innovative

The trouble with government help it that with it comes government interference and government control.


5 posted on 09/03/2012 1:01:22 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Innovative
will instead try to turn the tables on their GOP rivals by accusing them of being dishonest about what Obama meant

Given the constant and ridiculous charge of "lying" that Obama and his surrogates scream at the drop of a hat without any solid foundation, this strategy is obviously deliberately planned. Will it be effective? We have seen how stupid and gullibe the voters were in 2008. Will people start to wake up now or will they just keep drinking in the Koolaid. That is the real question in my mind. And what is the best strategy in terms of answering or not answering these foolish claims? Probably a response needs to be made to every silly claim for the record by someone, but to what extent would it be better to ignore the utter foolishness with the contempt it deserves?

6 posted on 09/03/2012 1:02:44 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Fresh Wind

Exactly!

Another great article I just came across:

“Rising wages, incomes, prosperity, and living standards do not result from increased government spending, increased deficits and government debt, increased Fed money creation, greater income and wealth redistribution, or any other fever swamp of Obamanomics.

If this generation of Americans does not get it, they will not enjoy the world leading living standards, and American Dream, of prior generations of Americans. Moreover, they will not deserve it. There is no law of the universe that says America must be the richest, most prosperous nation in the history of the world. If the American people do not choose the wisest leaders following traditional American, free market, economic policies, but instead choose the hope and change of the economic policies of Argentina and Venezuela, then they will get, and deserve, the prosperity and living standards of Argentina or Venezuela.”

Obama’s Accelerating Downward Spiral For America

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/09/02/obamas-accelerating-downward-spiral-for-america/print/


7 posted on 09/03/2012 1:04:18 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

since he ad-libbed the line near the end of a long campaign swing....Yes. He was tired, near exhausted and his mouth couldn’t clearly express his thoughts.


8 posted on 09/03/2012 1:09:06 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Unam Sanctam

And what is the best strategy in terms of answering or not answering these foolish claims?...Something like: “He SAID it! I’m not convoluting, spinning or lying. He said it and he MEANT it!” Period.


9 posted on 09/03/2012 1:13:57 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Innovative

There is no way that he can spin this and come out unbloodied.

This is a Marxist concept, and whoever debates him should point this out. Marx felt that Capitalists exploited workers, government and were exploiters who “didn’t build that.”

Someone should ask him if he thinks that his Marxist platitudes are a good substitute for a sound understanding of Market Economics.


10 posted on 09/03/2012 1:17:52 AM PDT by Bon mots (When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...)
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To: Innovative

Manifesto

Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Abolition of all right of inheritance.
Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of the population over the country.
Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form and combination of education with industrial production.


11 posted on 09/03/2012 1:37:34 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: FlyingEagle

Sounds like a manifesto the AntiChrist would follow to destroy a country to me...: )


12 posted on 09/03/2012 1:42:31 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Innovative
Obama has not repeated the words that sparked the controversy, and he has toned down the broader argument - that government help is essential to business success - in the six weeks since he ad-libbed the line near the end of a long campaign swing.

Bull crap. He didn't "ad lib" anything...he knew what he was saying, he planned to say what he said, and he MEANT what he said.

He is wrong, and he knows it...of course, he is going to "double down" on the argument by having a big business stooge--the head of CARMAX--defend that remark in a speech at the DNC.

My hope is that either the boss of CARMAX backs out OR that CARMAX pays a price for defending the communist Obamugabe.

13 posted on 09/03/2012 1:54:41 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Innovative

Jon Stewart has been spiing it for days. Does he really think he gets to have dinner with Napoleon?


14 posted on 09/03/2012 2:14:16 AM PDT by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: Innovative

Even if we follow Obama & MSM explanation that behind every successful business there’s a list of government’s involvements,it doesn’t explain why only certain business are successful while others are not. Everyone has access to roads, bridges, etc. But only few made it. The best we can make out of that argument is such assistance was necessary condition to success, while individual’s efforts are the sufficient condition for it. Even this way of seeing is already a stretch.


15 posted on 09/03/2012 2:20:00 AM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty.)
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To: Innovative; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve

HUSSEIN ALINSKY HAS BUILT A VORTEX OF DESTRUCTION

16 posted on 09/03/2012 2:24:49 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: jsanders2001

It’s the communist manifesto Obama’ creed


17 posted on 09/03/2012 2:27:44 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Innovative

At heart, Obama is a communist - his style is just a little smoother and more devious than Lenin, Stalin, Kruschev, Castro and others.

His comment “You didn’t build that” is not a stand alone idea. It is part of his communist agenda. The declaration is a precursor to making a case that your business belongs to everyone.

What he really means is this:

If you didn’t build it you don’t have a right to claim ownership.

If your business came into being only because you used raw materials that belong to “everyone”. And you used roads and infrastructure and knowledge that belong to everyone, then your business rightfully belongs to everyone.

And the income generated by your business belongs to everyone as well.

And who is “everyone”? It is the collective and ultimately, the collective is the government. After all - businesses and enterprises should not exist to enrich the few (Obama’s 1%), it should enrich everyone.

This is the logic and belief system he applied when he bypassed the legal bankruptcy procedure and stole General Motors from its rightful owners to award ownership to the government and the labor union (a government sponsored collective).

This is nothing but government nationalization of private property - the same as we see happening in places like Argentina and Venezuela. Obama uses other words and is less direct but the action and result are the same.

And now he has declared that he wants to “help” all American industries the way he helped General Motors.
And, of course, the way he is helping to nationalize health care industries under Obamacare.

He intends to gradually eliminate or to totally control private ownership. If he gets reelected he will carry through on that threat.


18 posted on 09/03/2012 2:29:08 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Iron Munro

Spot on!


19 posted on 09/03/2012 2:52:16 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: paudio
Everyone has access to roads, bridges, etc.

Those roads and bridges were built with bonds and debt. That entire business model requires future profits from taxation to eventually pay the bonds or debt. So in areas where the local tax base has collapsed (Detroit, California Cities (4), etc.) the municipalities that issued the bonds and acquired the debt have gone bankrupt. Since some of the places that went bust, had decent roads and bridges, do not think the roads and bridges are the main issue.

20 posted on 09/03/2012 3:29:52 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Innovative

In Charlotte yesterday, they had hand fans with the slogan, “WE make it possible.” So now the dweebs are tripling down.


21 posted on 09/03/2012 3:37:28 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Innovative
Republicans have typically quoted only the last part — “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that” — prompting most independent fact checkers to conclude that the line was taken out of context.

WaPo still trying to carry Obama's water. Problem is that everyone has seen the actual video and it is even worse than the transcript. They can't run away from it, even though they've got their minions out repeating the usual "context" lie as a campaign talking point.

22 posted on 09/03/2012 3:43:41 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Innovative

Article mentions that the remark occurred, “n the six weeks since he ad-libbed the line near the end of a long campaign swing.”

Ever check out Wikipedia on the “57 States” blunder. It justifies the mistake by claiming that Obama was clearly exhausted and, it implies, therefore cannot be held to task for such a small blunder.

You can see a pattern here - he isn’t a fool - he is merely overworked. (Campaigning is “exhausting” after all.) Wouldn’t be nearly as annoying if it weren’t for the way they held Bush’s feet to the fire over statements that were not nearly so downright foolish.


23 posted on 09/03/2012 4:00:58 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: Innovative

For professional propagandists it must be most galling to have their own catchphrase bite them on the hand again and again.

It’s part of popular culture now. I just had a 6-hour drive and saw many WE BUILT THIS banners on businesses facing the highway. Lamar and Clear Channel billboard advertising will confirm that’s a lot of eyeballs.


24 posted on 09/03/2012 4:10:25 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Timber Rattler

The part of his speech that is starved of attention is his introductory phrase ‘I’m always struck....’

Why is he always struck? It could only be because he resents private enterprise, success and pride in achievement. Why is it ‘always’ - is it because he such a depraved ideologue that he is forever monitoring the horizon for enemies to engage?


25 posted on 09/03/2012 4:12:57 AM PDT by relictele
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To: Eleutheria5
Besides FedEx, high on that list of business people who had to fight the establishment...

Clint Eastwood.

All but 4 of his American made movies were done by his own production company, Malpaso, started in 1967.

26 posted on 09/03/2012 4:25:22 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Innovative
After being pummeled ... for his remark that business owners "didn't build that," .... advisers .. will instead try to turn the tables ... about what Obama meant.
Weeeeeee! Spin baby, spin!

Sorry RATS we know what the commie-in-chief meant -- which is: Exactly what he said. Period, end -- Stop.

In Barry Soetoro's marxist brain, everyone owes thanks to 'The U.S. Government' for any and all things that happen in the USA. Which, if you follow that to it's 'logical conclusion' (hold down the laughter there in row 5), Eric Clapton 'owes' his greatness and HUGH success to the American Government.

Huh? What's that you say.. how? Easy.

Eric Clapton started out playing Gibson Les Paul model Guitars - Made in the USA - then switched over to Fender Stratocasters - also Made in the USA. And since the FedGov 'allowed' those companies to be built and their guitars made, Eric became one of, or the greatest player ever(1), very famous, and very - very RICH!! Ditto for every other famous Musician who 'made it' - the Government built that success for them.

Now the teeny fact that millions of other kids had the very same chance, bought guitars, took lessons, and wanted to be 'Rock Stars' back then and failed, like moi, is besides the point. The US Gubmint 'built' Eric Clapton and that's that.

Yes he's a British citizen, don't confuse the issue okay. You're upsetting Barry's goofy talking points.

(1) I strongly take exception the 'recent' Rolling Stone Poll on the top 100 guitarists of 'all time' which put Jimi Hendrix at #1. IMHO he was mostly flash. He had huge hands that could grab some unbelievable chords and frets, and played with so much distortion and feedback, you didn't know what the hell he was actually playing. Eric Clapton is Number One that's the end of it.

27 posted on 09/03/2012 4:31:27 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Iron Munro

Excellent post.


28 posted on 09/03/2012 4:47:44 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: relictele

That was his “tell”.


29 posted on 09/03/2012 4:53:22 AM PDT by kenavi (Obama doesn't hate private equity. He wants to be it with our money.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Would you buy a used up Administration from this man?


30 posted on 09/03/2012 4:57:57 AM PDT by kenavi (Obama doesn't hate private equity. He wants to be it with our money.)
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To: Innovative
Facing mounting questions, easy now we dont want to rustle his feathers gently......gently. It may be mounty to thier followers, but it is old news and a reconfirmation for us.
31 posted on 09/03/2012 5:02:44 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: Innovative
It's going to become his epitaph.
32 posted on 09/03/2012 5:05:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: Innovative

From the article:

“The problem is that Obama has only greatly accelerated everything Bush did wrong, and reversed everything Bush did right.”

I think I might steal that for my new tag line!


33 posted on 09/03/2012 5:24:00 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Safetgiver

He justrepeated what Fauxcohantus (and other leftists) said.


34 posted on 09/03/2012 5:28:20 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: Innovative

The downward spiral toward the bottom of the swirling toilet for business growth began when the first businesses had to start federal withholding from employee’s checks. From that point forward (as a business owner I speak) the paperwork and regulatory waste of a businesses time, finances and manpower simply to comply with the mountain of regulatory paperwork and compliance has become staggering.

As employers we have become the “baby sitters” and surrogate “mothers” for our employees and are forced to do everything the government dictates to insurance requirements, collection of court ordered child support payments, withholding for social security and employment taxes.....and the list goes on and on and on. On top of that, thanks to “civil rights” laws (gay discrimination etc...) we open ourselves up to the fact that ANY employee, current or new hire, is a potential lawsuit waiting for it’s opportunity to happen.

Thanks to the government, “we didn’t do that ourselves...the government did.”

The chains of government intervention into the free market and the absolute administrative and financial bondage to business, both tiny to huge, have mired the American business down to trying to plow the field with a team of cats. The only solution to the problem is to get government COMPLETELY out of micro-managing all business.


35 posted on 09/03/2012 5:40:35 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Bon mots
I was arguing with a real leftwing liberal a few days ago... he tried this spin... I said, “Yeah... he didn't mean it... just like bill clinton didn't mean it when he said”:

“I did not have sex with that woman... mizz lewinsky... not one time”.

He turned and left the room.

LLS

36 posted on 09/03/2012 5:45:09 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Innovative
- in the six weeks since he ad-libbed the line near the end of a long campaign swing.

Oh. He was just exhausted from a looooong campaign swing.

And what is the excuse for , "The private sector is doing just fine?"

Excuses are like a-holes, everybody has got one and they all stink.

But the Washington Post has multiple anal orifi.

37 posted on 09/03/2012 5:57:53 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: Innovative

If you are explaining you aren’t campaigning. Force them to keep explaining!


38 posted on 09/03/2012 6:07:57 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008BAL1OK/)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Obama’s an anti-American scumbag.

Thanks Innovative.


39 posted on 09/03/2012 6:29:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Iron Munro
His comment “You didn’t build that” is not a stand alone idea. It is part of his communist agenda. The declaration is a precursor to making a case that your business belongs to everyone.

What he really means is this:

If you didn’t build it you don’t have a right to claim ownership.

Exactly! Great post in its entirety, not just the portion I selected.

40 posted on 09/03/2012 6:31:55 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: PhilDragoo; holdonnow; Jim Robinson










Obama didn't brew that beer! (He just named it!)


Obama didn't win the championship bb game! (Sarah did!)


Obama did not bowl better than the dog! (That he ate!)










41 posted on 09/03/2012 6:40:46 AM PDT by devolve (----- ------- ------ GO AHEAD - MAKE MY SPAGHETTI -------- ----------- ----- -------- ----------)
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To: justa-hairyape
Everyone has access to roads, bridges, etc.

Those roads and bridges were built with bonds and debt. That entire business model requires future profits from taxation to eventually pay the bonds or debt.

Not only that, but most of the actual roadbuilding was done by private contractors. In my work at Mississippi DOT (over 20 years), even the shadiest, corner-cutting contractor did a better job than your average MDOT roadbuilding crew. Now, with some jobs becoming "Design-Build" (where the Contractor actually designs the road and builds it, instead of taking the plans DOT gives them and having DOT inspectors looking over their shoulders at everything), the government has even LESS involvement in building roads and bridges.

42 posted on 09/03/2012 7:04:43 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: Condor51
(1) I strongly take exception the 'recent' Rolling Stone Poll on the top 100 guitarists of 'all time' which put Jimi Hendrix at #1. IMHO he was mostly flash. He had huge hands that could grab some unbelievable chords and frets, and played with so much distortion and feedback, you didn't know what the hell he was actually playing. Eric Clapton is Number One that's the end of it.

Try listening to Les Paul/Chet Atkins and get back to me. (I'm a guitar player myself, since I was nine....I'm now sixty one.)

FMCDH(BITS)

43 posted on 09/03/2012 7:19:42 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Innovative
but will instead try to turn the tables on their GOP rivals by accusing them of being dishonest about what Obama meant.

They've been trying to do this for weeks. Most of the "fact-checks" involve saying the GOP contention has been debunked, then wanders into vague wordplay as their "proof".

44 posted on 09/03/2012 7:33:20 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Iron Munro

It’s also almost always the way any communist screed starts - by ripping capitalism.


45 posted on 09/03/2012 7:34:50 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Innovative

“Obama has not repeated the words that sparked the controversy, and he has toned down the broader argument - that government help is essential to business success “

Ha Ha Appears that Obama’s handlers pulled him into the back room and gave him 30 lashes for going off teleprompter. In fact, it looks like they put both Obama and Biden back in chains and on a short leash.


46 posted on 09/03/2012 7:36:54 AM PDT by UglyinLA
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To: justa-hairyape
Emperor Zero should try to start a new business someday within a market/field where all the business and academic experts claim the business cannot be done. Then fight the entire establishment every step of the way as you market the appeal of the new product the business is promoting. Some of us have done that.

John Kenneth Galbraith, Wm. F. Buckley's friend and great liberal golem who once was FDR's wartime wage-and-price czar (he confessed -- although he didn't see it as a confession -- to having been seduced by all that power), became famous in the 1950's with a book that described how businessmen performed exactly the feat you describe over and over again in the 40's and 50's. Galbraith complained about it -- he felt, apparently, that artificial demand like that was illegitimate somehow, and that said businessmen were somehow unjustly enriching themselves and unnecessarily complicating life for everyone. "Typical liberal."

47 posted on 09/03/2012 8:46:51 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Safetgiver
And what is the best strategy in terms of answering or not answering these foolish claims?...Something like: “He SAID it! I’m not convoluting, spinning or lying. He said it and he MEANT it!” Period.

Just like Van Jones. Man opened his mouth, and a doctrinaire, Marxist-Leninist Communist popped out.

He probably meant that businesses don't build infrastructure -- but that isn't entirely true, either. Governments don't just dream up an Erie Canal or a Transcontinental Railroad like Zeus birthing fully-armed Athena from his forehead. Neither did the federal government dream up, on its own, the Tariff of Abominations and the Morill Tariff that precipitated disunion and civil war.

48 posted on 09/03/2012 8:57:14 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Unam Sanctam
Probably a response needs to be made to every silly claim for the record by someone, but to what extent would it be better to ignore the utter foolishness with the contempt it deserves?

Regarding the latter alternative, a couple of questions will suffice to test the thesis.

Hostile media, unified and under the command of a committed political claque (similar in some ways to the Baath Party), is a threat to the sanity of the nation.

49 posted on 09/03/2012 9:07:23 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Iron Munro
He intends to gradually eliminate or to totally control private ownership. If he gets reelected he will carry through on that threat.

Barry Commoner ran a third-party, uberliberal campaign for president in 1980 on the platform of socializing the economy by trumping proprietary rights by law.

His theory was that the government shouldn't attack property rights directly, but rather leave them undisturbed in principle while asserting full control by law and regulation.

His orating on the subject was greeted by fellow liberals with hisses of shut up, Barry -- you're spilling the beans! Liberals did not want this stuff discussed in front of the children at all.

50 posted on 09/03/2012 9:17:12 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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