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US rattles saber against Iran in attempt to stall Israeli strike
rt.com ^ | 9/3/12 | afp

Posted on 09/03/2012 8:03:13 AM PDT by Nachum

The US announced it will take further indirect action against Iran in an effort to delay a possible Israeli strike against the country. Washington’s plans to halt Iran’s embattled nuclear program include military exercises in the Persian Gulf.

In addition to increasing US naval activity in the region, Washington is also preparing to intensify economic sanctions against Iran’s oil industry, the New York Times reported.

The US – along with 25 other countries – will conduct extensive joint minesweeping exercises in the Persian Gulf in October. The move aims to increase pressure on Iran and prevent it from closing the Strait of Hormuz. Iran has also scheduled war games for this autumn, which are intended to dissuade the international community against an attack.

Washington is currently treading a fine line in the Israel-Iran dispute amid increasingly hawkish rhetoric from the Israeli government, which is pressing for an immediate strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

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TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; israeli; nucleariran; strike; usisrael; waronterror
Hmmm, the October surprise?
1 posted on 09/03/2012 8:03:22 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 09/03/2012 8:03:52 AM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

If Iran gets nukes they will use them on Israel, they have said so many times.
Seems like obammy wants just that to happen


3 posted on 09/03/2012 8:09:20 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Nachum
Netenyahu isn't wishy washy in any way.

He means what he says and says what he means.

There is nothing that 0bama can do to change or break Israels intent upon maintaining it's existence. IMO

Only a fool would follow the actions of our administration especially before an election.

4 posted on 09/03/2012 8:13:21 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Nachum

I’m not sure what to expect.

Biden is shooting off his mouth about Romney wanting war.

If you read the psych war-intelligence Debka website Obama has firmly sent a message to Israel to back off any attack before the election.

Is Netanyahu working with his hands tied by Obama or has he decided too, not to attack?

Iran needs to be kept off balance if an attack is planned.

Last week the carrier “John Stennis” left port on the West Coast, four months ahead of schedule.

The US is getting ready for any eventuality.


5 posted on 09/03/2012 8:14:35 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Nachum

I’m not sure what to expect.

Biden is shooting off his mouth about Romney wanting war.

If you read the psych war-intelligence Debka website Obama has firmly sent a message to Israel to back off any attack before the election.

Is Netanyahu working with his hands tied by Obama or has he decided too, not to attack?

Iran needs to be kept off balance if an attack is planned.

Last week the carrier “John Stennis” left port on the West Coast, four months ahead of schedule.

The US is getting ready for any eventuality.


6 posted on 09/03/2012 8:14:37 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Nachum

I’m not sure what to expect.

Biden is shooting off his mouth about Romney wanting war.

If you read the psych war-intelligence Debka website Obama has firmly sent a message to Israel to back off any attack before the election.

Is Netanyahu working with his hands tied by Obama or has he decided too, not to attack?

Iran needs to be kept off balance if an attack is planned.

Last week the carrier “John Stennis” left port on the West Coast, four months ahead of schedule.

The US is getting ready for any eventuality.


7 posted on 09/03/2012 8:14:43 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Nachum

I’m not sure what to expect.

Biden is shooting off his mouth about Romney wanting war.

If you read the psych war-intelligence Debka website Obama has firmly sent a message to Israel to back off any attack before the election.

Is Netanyahu working with his hands tied by Obama or has he decided too, not to attack?

Iran needs to be kept off balance if an attack is planned.

Last week the carrier “John Stennis” left port on the West Coast, four months ahead of schedule.

The US is getting ready for any eventuality.


8 posted on 09/03/2012 8:14:51 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Nachum

I’m not sure what to expect.

Biden is shooting off his mouth about Romney wanting war.

If you read the psych war-intelligence Debka website Obama has firmly sent a message to Israel to back off any attack before the election.

Is Netanyahu working with his hands tied by Obama or has he decided too, not to attack?

Iran needs to be kept off balance if an attack is planned.

Last week the carrier “John Stennis” left port on the West Coast, four months ahead of schedule.

The US is getting ready for any eventuality.


9 posted on 09/03/2012 8:14:57 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Nachum

I’m not sure what to expect.

Biden is shooting off his mouth about Romney wanting war.

If you read the psych war-intelligence Debka website Obama has firmly sent a message to Israel to back off any attack before the election.

Is Netanyahu working with his hands tied by Obama or has he decided too, not to attack?

Iran needs to be kept off balance if an attack is planned.

Last week the carrier “John Stennis” left port on the West Coast, four months ahead of schedule.

The US is getting ready for any eventuality.


10 posted on 09/03/2012 8:15:02 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Nachum

I’m not sure what to expect.

Biden is shooting off his mouth about Romney wanting war.

If you read the psych war-intelligence Debka website Obama has firmly sent a message to Israel to back off any attack before the election.

Is Netanyahu working with his hands tied by Obama or has he decided too, not to attack?

Iran needs to be kept off balance if an attack is planned.

Last week the carrier “John Stennis” left port on the West Coast, four months ahead of schedule.

The US is getting ready for any eventuality.


11 posted on 09/03/2012 8:15:02 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Nachum

I’m not sure what to expect.

Biden is shooting off his mouth about Romney wanting war.

If you read the psych war-intelligence Debka website Obama has firmly sent a message to Israel to back off any attack before the election.

Is Netanyahu working with his hands tied by Obama or has he decided too, not to attack?

Iran needs to be kept off balance if an attack is planned.

Last week the carrier “John Stennis” left port on the West Coast, four months ahead of schedule.

The US is getting ready for any eventuality.


12 posted on 09/03/2012 8:15:11 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Nextrush

I expect fewer posts from you.


13 posted on 09/03/2012 8:22:39 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: SJackson; Eleutheria5

ping


14 posted on 09/03/2012 8:22:54 AM PDT by moose07 (The truth will out, one day.)
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To: Nachum

Hmmmm... not that I’m sitting here wishing for it, but if Israel regards this as inevitability, too bad they couldn’t do it on the night Obama’s scheduled speak.


15 posted on 09/03/2012 8:24:01 AM PDT by Kenton (I love the smell of the Democrat's flop sweat in the morning. it smells like... VICTORY!)
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To: Nachum

I think Israel’s Leaders have decided that going before November will play into Obama’s re-election plans. Are the Brits mobilizing any major assets into the theatre?


16 posted on 09/03/2012 8:24:50 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Nachum
Washington’s plans to halt Iran’s embattled nuclear program include military exercises in the Persian Gulf.

Washington has no such plans. Washington may be taking action of some kind, but is not trying to influence the behavior of Iran.

The headline has it right: Washington is doing something -- because it is trying to influence the behavior of Israel. That is all. Think about that. It's bad. Very bad.

17 posted on 09/03/2012 8:25:44 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I need to hold back my trigger finger on this new laptop.

Sorry for the inconvenience.


18 posted on 09/03/2012 8:26:30 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Nachum

The hotspot may be Syria, which would consume Iranian resources as a proxy war. I was struck by the way the Russians packed up and left Syria so suddenly last week.


19 posted on 09/03/2012 8:27:57 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Nachum


20 posted on 09/03/2012 8:35:27 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Not even close. Thanks Nachum. If Zero were to order anything of the kind, he'd immediately lose the support of the irreparably anti-Israel Occuturds and other radical Demwits.
21 posted on 09/03/2012 8:36:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Obama bows down to Saudi King | American Thinker | April 02, 2009 | Clarice Feldman | Posted on 04/02/2009 8:19:47 AM PDT by rdb3
Obama bows down to Saudi King | American Thinker | April 02, 2009 | Clarice Feldman | Posted on 04/02/2009 8:19:47 AM PDT by rdb3

22 posted on 09/03/2012 8:39:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Nachum

Hillary’s State Department efforts are on going ie more of the same.


23 posted on 09/03/2012 8:39:41 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup
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To: swamprebel
I think Israel’s Leaders have decided that going before November will play into Obama’s re-election plans. Are the Brits mobilizing any major assets into the theatre?


Have the Brits got any major assets left?

24 posted on 09/03/2012 8:39:53 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: az_gila

Besides the one’s they displayed in Vegas, Where is the HMS Dauntless? Is it still in the Faulklands?


25 posted on 09/03/2012 8:48:44 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: swamprebel
Besides the one’s they displayed in Vegas, Where is the HMS Dauntless? Is it still in the Faulklands?


They have 2 new Type 45 destroyers, but have already decommissioned most of the older Type 42 destroyers.

I saw HMS Manchester in Liverpool on it's last voyage about 2 years ago. HMS Liverpool followed it shortly after.

They eliminated all of the Harriers and carriers.

The total number of Royal Navy vessels has gone way down.

26 posted on 09/03/2012 9:02:06 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: swamprebel; Nachum
"I was struck by the way the Russians packed up and left Syria so suddenly last week."

Russia has a port there. Maybe a deal was made.


27 posted on 09/03/2012 9:32:39 AM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Nextrush

We got it, got it , got it, got it, got it, got it .


28 posted on 09/03/2012 9:45:49 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: Nachum
In Israel’s other battles with its Muslim neighbors, they've never asked American permission to defend themselves or to attack. Bibi isn't stupid. He knows Obama is a closet Muslim and liar. Israel will attack no matter what Dear Leader does.
29 posted on 09/03/2012 9:51:32 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Nachum
... will take further indirect action against Iran

Translated: Israel is on it's own.

30 posted on 09/03/2012 11:25:54 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Nextrush

Yep we got your message. Try something new!


31 posted on 09/03/2012 12:33:09 PM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue.")
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To: Nextrush; Nachum
Nextrush:

I'll bet you are not sure what to expect, etc.

Personally I expect it would be a very good thing if Bibi Netanyahu took care of basic business whether Obozo (or Romney) like it or not and said loud, long and repeatedly to the US and to the world, including survivors in Iran. that Ahmanutjob's mouth has consequences especially in the context of his actions, that the threat to exterminate Israel could not have been reasonably allowed to become a radioactive reality, even if Ahmanutjob and the mullahocracy wanted to annihilate the Jews of the Middle East soooooo much that they could taste it and WHETHER Obozo and Her Satanic Majesty, our SOS, were determined to let it happen or simply playing with Israeli lives for domestic political purposes.

Teheran: Flat, black and glow in the dark! If the UN sobsisters, the diployakkers or the Russkies don't like it, tooooo bad! AND this time: No American boots on the ground. No rebuilding anything.

Humanitarian corollary: 24 hours notice from Bibi without details that Teheran be evacuated of women and children, old folks and cripples, then give them 48 hours total to accommodate mullah ineptitude and then render Teheran a radioactive memory.

They can have elections or not have them as they see fit. We don't care. See: Punic War, Third. No more Mr. Nice Roman. Give them a list of their cities and tell the survivors to pick three which will get similar treatment the next time they get out of line. No negotiations and no diployak of ANY sort. No Lobster Thermidor with Beluga Caviar washed down by gallons of Chateau Rothschild '29 during breaks (how would anyone recognize breaks compared to diployakker action?) in the diplo-snorefests at Club Med or Cancun either since such discussions will never take place. No years of haggling over square vs. round conference tables while livin' large at taxpayers' expense. No more taxpayer abuse as a way of cushy life. Just bomb them back to the technological stone age to go with the rest of their "thought" process and be done with them. No Kumbaya!

I expect that the election of Sarah Palin as POTUS would pave the way for a future new class of super carriers that would include vessels with names like the Sarah Palin, the Margaret Thatcher and the Michelle Bachmann and that those ships will be collectively known as: The Fighting Ladies. The Ronald Reagan will continue and be outfitted with the latest weaponry and defenses until replaced by another carrier named the Ronald Reagan and the John Stennis and the Carl Vinson ought be treated like the Ronald Reagan. The Eisenhower and the Gerald Ford can be re-commissioned under more appropriate names or mothballed when the time comes. Imagine the leftist rage!!!

32 posted on 09/03/2012 11:42:55 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: Nachum

Oh, and put the entire Iranian Navy in Davy Jones’ Locker as the immediate second order of business. Then, intensive satellite surveillance of the Straits of Hormuz and drone from the sky anyone engaged in suspicious activity. Show them why technology exists.


33 posted on 09/03/2012 11:47:45 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: BlackElk

Its your fantasy but the reality is that we live in a more weakened world of feminized policy that backs away from tough military action.

And don’t forget the UN and international law. The United States backing of Israel will be needed to protect them there.

We don’t fight World War II’s anymore, that’s why our troops fight and die the way they do in Afghanistan, the 21st Century Vietnam with lower casualty rates.

Pakistan should get the “parking lot” treatment or at least have its top intelligence leaders taken out for supporting Bin Laden and the Taliban.

Any military action against Iran will be very surgical and limited but would have to include its military assets for air defense at least plus nuclear installations.


34 posted on 09/04/2012 6:47:35 AM PDT by Nextrush (PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN IS MY DREAM)
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To: Nachum
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

..................

35 posted on 09/04/2012 7:36:24 AM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: BlackElk

It is a nice fantasy, but we don’t have the fortitude to treat Iran like Hirohito’s Japan.

Things will get a lot worse before it will get better, IMHO.


36 posted on 09/04/2012 8:59:54 AM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nextrush; Nachum
Then we should STOP accepting a "reality...that we live in a more weakened world of feminized policy that backs away from tough military action" and return to a world of George S. Patton, Jr., Lewis "Chesty" Puller, and Curtis LeMay.

Our policies are not being "feminized" but rather tied down like Gulliver by what are anti-American influences at home and abroad. I fail to understand why it was respectable (as most certainly it was) to go all in to destroy Hitler and the Third Reich and Tojo's essentially fascist rule in Japan but that we should not touch the hair of any communist's head and should now genuflect before the Islamo-Fascist menace that is Ahmanutjob and the Mullahocracy in Iran.

I don't like feminism any more than anyone else here but Code Pink, however female it public face, is not about feminism but about anti-Americanism. Suppose that Hillary Clinton (Medusa herself) had a sudden and unexpected turn toward patriotism and that she got to make the military decisions. Would any Islamofascist dictator who got in her way have much life expectancy???

International Law???? This nation is a sovereign nation governed by the US Constitution. To the extent that any treaty says otherwise (including GATT, NAFTA and their evil progeny), abrogate the treaty unilaterally or otherwise as improvidently entered, approve no further treaties sapping our sovereignty, and inform the world once and for all that the State Department is not theirs any more and that we have gone our own way. Imagine an Audie Murphy type as Secretary of State. It's easy if you try.

As to the UN, keep the Security Council seats to veto any attempt to render the UN effective and any policy we alone deem detrimental to our policy or our interests, pay no "dues" to the UN and its subsidiaries, and let the UN know we are sovereign again whether the diployakkers like it or not. Rip the UN out of Manhattan and out of the USA as an affront to our people.

To the best of my knowledge, the Connally Reservation protects the USA from foreign busibodies on the "World Court." If it fails, in any way, to be a complete repudiation of the awful notion of the USA or ANY American citizen being subject to the jurisdiction of the "World Court" or any other pretentious pack of internationalist anti-American morons that presumes to judge the USA and her citizens. Ours was a Declaration of INDEPENDENCE and not one of "interdependence" or of craven surrender to our enemies. I don't want the US judged by Canada much less by Ahmanutjob and the red hot mullahs or the "former" soviets or the Red Chinese. We ought never haul them before globaloney courts. Our judgments can be rendered wordlessly by our military.

I agree on Pakistan but Teheran needs to be rendered a permanent monument to the stupidity of its arrogant leaders. I would prefer that Israel be the nation that does what needs doing. They cannot responsibly trust Obozo or Romney on matters military or on the survival of their nation and its people nor can they wait for the next manly POTUS to assume office in four or eight years.

37 posted on 09/04/2012 12:09:09 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: Nachum

The US suffers bi-partisan paralysis at the moment and for at least four more years, That’s why Bibi Netanyahu was born.


38 posted on 09/04/2012 12:42:27 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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To: Nachum

Placemnark.


39 posted on 09/09/2012 9:45:53 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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