Skip to comments.Light goes out for incandescent bulbs (in Europe)
Posted on 09/03/2012 9:07:01 AM PDT by Olog-hai
After more than a century lighting up the world, the switch will be flicked off across the EU for the final time on incandescent bulbs on Saturday as the phased ban on their sale is completed.
From 1 September, a European Union directive aimed at reducing the energy use of lighting means that retailers will no longer be allowed to sell 40-Watt and 25-Watt incandescent bulbs. Similar bans came into effect for 60-Watt and 100-Watt incandescent bulbs over the past three years. The restrictions are predicted to save 39 terawatt-hours of electricity across the EU annually by 2020.
Earlier this year, the UK government said the ban would bring an "average annual net benefit" of £108 million ($172 million) to the UK between 2010 and 2020 in energy savings. But the phase-out of incandescents has been met with resistance by some users who say replacement technologies, such as CFLs, halogens and LEDs, do not perform as well. Despite the substantial long-term financial savings promised, the higher upfront price of replacement bulbs has also been criticized by those opposing the ban.
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"The lamps are going out all over Europe. We shall not see them lit again in our time" -- Edward Grey, 1st Viscount Grey of Fallodon
The two greatest inventions in the history of mankind, the incandescent electric light bulb and the gasoline combustion engine...otherwise we would be no different than the last 5000 years. And yet that isn't good enough for the liberal retards & environmento crazies..... they want to push America & the world back into the stone age, and only the elitists will have modern conveniences.
Thank you dumbass doofus GW Bush...your stupidity & idiocy lives on!
This offensive act of social engineering to save a measly $172 million?
Think about this every time I have to flush a toilet twice maybe three times.
I’ve been stocking up on the regular bulbs for over a year now. I just about have a lifetime supply. Stupid politicians, they find the stupidest ways to “earn” their pay. We’d be better off if they did nothing and just left folks alone.
Yeah, in the UK. Over ten years, which means an average of $17.2 million per year not counting inflation, which won’t mean all that much anyhow.
While I understand your frustration, it's important to realize that an idiocy this big cannot be held by one man alone.
The Republican House had a chance recently to reject this madness, and voted "Present".
I should be good through 2020.
I also replaced all my toilets with the old-style high-capacity ones. Every time TPTB come up with a new stupid regulation, this is how I’m going to respond to the best of my ability.
Much of the world has seen the wisdom of magnetic induction. So is the the City of Carlsbad in California, but as usual we're being played by the beltway and NGOs.
“Candles and caves are what the Socialist overlords have in mind for the peasantry.”
Shrugs, if I were a bulb manufacturer, I would just make 101 watt, 61 watt, 41 watt, and 26 watt bulbs
There will be big business in the black market as Asia, South America and Africa aren’t following this folly...
You can find them online. Also, I read that the ban doesn’t apply to incandescent bulbs rated as ‘industrial’ rather than residential.
Not only is the light-bulb a victim of these greenies, but so is the old style washing machine! You can hardly find a washer with an agitator anymore! (I know, there’s one in the WH) These new high-efficiency washers do not clean clothes worth a damn! And the amount of ‘water savings’ is on par with the amount of ‘electric watt savings’ of these new bulbs. It’s just the left shoving their way down our throats.
And get a plunger to unclog it, even though I barely used any toilet paper.
“The Buck Stops Here.”
It would not have survived a 0bama veto even if it managed to get through the Senate.
100 watters are verboten here (USA) but you can still get 75 watt incandescents at Home Depot etc. But 75 watters will be banned come Jan 1st so stock up
I notice that HD has mercury based incandescents 100 watts illumination rating but done with 75 watts of electricity so they get the green fascist stamp of approval. The rip off price is 2 for 4$
I understand that, but what is the point of having an opposition if you're not going to oppose anything?
Stand and be counted, I say.
The reason that the new washing machines do not clean is not their fault. It’s the fault of the new phosphate free detergents.
Europe is failing as usual with any nations that adopt communists like manifesto.
Every technology has a problem. The magnetic induction systems radiate RF like a banchee. Being a ham radio operator, this is particularly NOT A GOOD IDEA. This is one of the reasons that this technology hasn’t caught on.
As a side note - after reading the wikipedia page on same, this technology also uses Mercury.
No free lunch.
“Stand and be counted, I say.”
“Stand and deliver” is what the nannystate says.
Let’s see, it’s against the law for my 90 mother-in-law with macular degeneration to purchase light bulbs that are sufficiently bright enough for her but we are encouraged to ‘save the planet’ by purchasing electric cars which use electricity approx. equivalent to 15 100W bulbs burning 24 hrs/day. This is California, of course it makes sense!! It’s all about what seems like a good idea.....
I plan on stocking up on incandescents too. For some if not most applications, they just make more sense.
If there was a point to your comment, I missed it completely.
I am in no way a nannystater.
I had no idea Michelle does her own laundry. Or were you referring to Barack?
Let the smuggling begin!
“The restrictions are predicted to save 39 terawatt-hours of electricity across the EU annually by 2020”
According to wikipedia, present annual consumption of electricity in the EU is 3,000 terawatt hours.
Thus the projected savings, in eight years, amounts to 1.3% of present consumption.
Whereas according to IAEA, consumption will increase: “projected primary energy demand growth of 1.7% per year.”
The projected savings eight years out do not amount to more than the projected year over year increase for a single year.
The light bulb mandate has very little to do with conservation, and everthing to do with control.
As for the “environmentalists” and politicians who forced this law, their bulbs have been dim for decades.
Why are all the new bulbs at least 10x as much? Any dumbass knows the answer to this question. It has nothing to do with conserving energy IMO and more about greasing palms.
I've switched to a Walmart brand "Lights of America" (Chinese made, unfortunately). More lumens than the 60 watters I was buying. Uses 14 watts (I measured it). Costs about a dollar a bulb. Dunno about life yet - claim is 10000 hours but I only switched last December.
Tried some a few years ago - they lasted from 20 seconds to 20 hours, but they all died. These have lasted since Dec with no casualties.
I agree with everything you said — and you said it so well, I won’t repeat it.
For us “northerners” (actually southern Canada, but you know what I mean) there is little or no benefit from the lower heat output of CFLs. Here, heating season and lighting season largely overlap. We have more hours of daylight in the summer, than you do in the south — and therefore use a lot less lighting than we do in the winter (with longer nights). During the winter, the heat from the light bulbs contributes to keeping the house warm.
Regarding the extended life; I’ve been writing the date I install each CFL bulb on the base. That’s where I discovered how important the cycle time is, as you mentioned.
I also have a remote control ceiling fan which originally wouldn't work. I called in a ceiling fan specialist electrician. He explained that the particular remote receiver in this fan (a Hunter) would not work unless I had at least one incandescent bulb installed in its light kit, because somehow the receiver needed the filament in the bulb to pass along its message "Light up, you guys." I switched out one of the CFL bulbs in the light kit for an identical looking incandescent bulb and voila! They ALL then worked. How weird is that?
Now HERE'S 2 problems I bet nobody else here thought of!
Most of the CFLs at Walmart are subsidized, hence the lower price. They even admitted as much when the prices first went down.
That’s what I was wondering. If you just started manufacturing incandescent bulbs and selling them in different wattage??? I can’t believe no one has brought a court challenge against this idiocy. Seems the Fed Govt. should not be able to ban anything so necessary to our lives as “lighting”.
By whom? The U.S Government?
The Chinese Government?
Both federal and state governments.
Since China’s still producing incandescent bulbs, it would not serve their interests to offer any discount whether via subsidy or otherwise for the CFLs
By my own government.
I knew it was crap when they first came out. But I thought the technology had improved (it has, some) enough to where the market could handle it.
Guess I was fooled.
So you found them? More power to ya.
My husband did-we live in MS, apparently it wasn’t difficult at all :) We found three of them.
I don't know if the folks who calculated the cost savings figured in the price difference between incandescent bulbs and their CFL/LED replacements, but I can assure you that it is far more than $0.72.