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Executive Order -- For Immediate ReleaseAugust 31, 2012
The White House ^ | The White House Office of the Press Secretary

Posted on 09/03/2012 7:01:50 PM PDT by Bronzy

EXECUTIVE ORDER--Improving Access to Mental Health Services for Veterans, Service Members, and Military Families

IMPROVING ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR VETERANS, SERVICE MEMBERS, AND MILITARY FAMILIES

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby order as follows:

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I think military vets need to read this executive order. Look at:

Sec. 5. Improved Research and Development. Read (c) under that Sec. 5 where "...Agencies shall continue ongoing collaborative research efforts, with an aim to enroll at least 100,000 service members by December 31, 2012, and include a plan for long term follow up with enrollees through a coordinated effort with the Department of Veterans Affairs."

Is it time for our vets to relocate or stay to be part of a comprehensive longitudinal mental health study?

100,000 by December 31, 2012

1 posted on 09/03/2012 7:01:51 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: Bronzy

Another government employee jobs program. Shouldn’t the shrinks check the politicians first so we’ll know how many of them are crazy.


2 posted on 09/03/2012 7:05:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: Bronzy

It sounds like a way to isolate vets to me by labellibg them as all troubled.


3 posted on 09/03/2012 7:06:43 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

You are wise to the ways of socialists.


4 posted on 09/03/2012 7:08:59 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Bronzy
I'm sure that this is in no way a backdoor attempt by Zer0 to strip veterans of their Second Amendment rights. </sarc>
5 posted on 09/03/2012 7:09:39 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Another government employee jobs program.
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i agree!
...now the VA will have to hire a lot more LIBERAL psychologists. (most are...)
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meanwhile, Obama will make ALL the Vets pay for it:

Romney: Obama wants vets to cough up $$$ to pay for Obamacare (TRICARE on the ropes)

09/01/2012 11:18:55 AM PDT · by Libloather · 17 replies
Washington Examiner ^ | 8/29/12 | Joel Gehrke
Romney: Obama wants vets to cough up $$$ to pay for Obamacare
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2925442/posts


6 posted on 09/03/2012 7:12:00 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: All

I may be mistaken, but I believe that if you are diagnosed and “registered” as having a mental illness of ANY kind, you are no longer permited to own/buy firearms...Way to disarm the former military Obammy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You Marxist puke!
As a medical professional and retired military, I highly recommend people REALLY REALLY look at what Obammys latest “executive order” REALLY says!


7 posted on 09/03/2012 7:12:08 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: Bronzy

To date it has been a total disaster. Please read about my friend Josh with PTSD: http://saveoursoldiers.org/


8 posted on 09/03/2012 7:12:52 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: MagUSNRET

Yep.


9 posted on 09/03/2012 7:13:53 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jonty30

Once labeled they will be unable to possess a firearm.


10 posted on 09/03/2012 7:14:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Bronzy

I refuse to go to the site. Would you be so kind as to copy the whole thing here?


11 posted on 09/03/2012 7:15:02 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Bronzy

why are they trying to register all vets as nuts as much as possible?


12 posted on 09/03/2012 7:15:16 PM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Look at all agencies involved (sec. 6) :
Sec. 6. Military and Veterans Mental Health Interagency Task Force. There is established an Interagency Task Force on Military and Veterans Mental Health (Task Force), to be co chaired by the Secretaries of Defense, Veterans Affairs, and Health and Human Services, or their designated representatives.

(a) Membership. In addition to the Co-Chairs, the Task Force shall consist of representatives from:

(i) the Department of Education;

(ii) the Office of Management and Budget;

(iii) the Domestic Policy Council;

(iv) the National Security Staff;

(v) the Office of Science and Technology Policy;

(vi) the Office of National Drug Control Policy; and

(vii) such other executive departments, agencies, or offices as the Co-Chairs may designate.

A member agency of the Task Force shall designate a full time officer or employee of the Federal Government to perform the Task Force functions.

13 posted on 09/03/2012 7:16:13 PM PDT by Bronzy (No more RINOS)
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To: Brad's Gramma

For your pleasure:
For Immediate Release
August 31, 2012
Executive Order — Improving Access to Mental Health Services for Veterans, Service Members, and Military Families

EXECUTIVE ORDER

IMPROVING ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FOR VETERANS, SERVICE MEMBERS, AND MILITARY FAMILIES

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby order as follows:

Section 1. Policy. Since September 11, 2001, more than two million service members have deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan. Long deployments and intense combat conditions require optimal support for the emotional and mental health needs of our service members and their families. The need for mental health services will only increase in the coming years as the Nation deals with the effects of more than a decade of conflict. Reiterating and expanding upon the commitment outlined in my Administration’s 2011 report, entitled “Strengthening Our Military Families,” we have an obligation to evaluate our progress and continue to build an integrated network of support capable of providing effective mental health services for veterans, service members, and their families. Our public health approach must encompass the practices of disease prevention and the promotion of good health for all military populations throughout their lifespans, both within the health care systems of the Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs and in local communities. Our efforts also must focus on both outreach to veterans and their families and the provision of high quality mental health treatment to those in need. Coordination between the Departments of Veterans Affairs and Defense during service members’ transition to civilian life is essential to achieving these goals.

Ensuring that all veterans, service members (Active, Guard, and Reserve alike), and their families receive the support they deserve is a top priority for my Administration. As part of our ongoing efforts to improve all facets of military mental health, this order directs the Secretaries of Defense, Health and Human Services, Education, Veterans Affairs, and Homeland Security to expand suicide prevention strategies and take steps to meet the current and future demand for mental health and substance abuse treatment services for veterans, service members, and their families.

Sec. 2. Suicide Prevention. (a) By December 31, 2012, the Department of Veterans Affairs, in continued collaboration with the Department of Health and Human Services, shall expand the capacity of the Veterans Crisis Line by 50 percent to ensure that veterans have timely access, including by telephone, text, or online chat, to qualified, caring responders who can help address immediate crises and direct veterans to appropriate care. Further, the Department of Veterans Affairs shall ensure that any veteran identifying him or herself as being in crisis connects with a mental health professional or trained mental health worker within 24 hours. The Department of Veterans Affairs also shall expand the number of mental health professionals who are available to see veterans beyond traditional business hours.

(b) The Departments of Veterans Affairs and Defense shall jointly develop and implement a national suicide prevention campaign focused on connecting veterans and service members to mental health services. This 12 month campaign, which shall begin on September 1, 2012, will focus on the positive benefits of seeking care and encourage veterans and service members to proactively reach out to support services.

(c) To provide the best mental health and substance abuse prevention, education, and outreach support to our military and their family members, the Department of Defense shall review all of its existing mental health and substance abuse prevention, education, and outreach programs across the military services and the Defense Health Program to identify the key program areas that produce the greatest impact on quality and outcomes, and rank programs within each of these program areas using metrics that assess their effectiveness. By the end of Fiscal Year 2014, existing program resources shall be realigned to ensure that highly ranked programs are implemented across all of the military services and less effective programs are replaced.

Sec. 3. Enhanced Partnerships Between the Department of Veterans Affairs and Community Providers. (a) Within 180 days of the date of this order, in those service areas where the Department of Veterans Affairs has faced challenges in hiring and placing mental health service providers and continues to have unfilled vacancies or long wait times, the Departments of Veterans Affairs and Health and Human Services shall establish pilot projects whereby the Department of Veterans Affairs contracts or develops formal arrangements with community based providers, such as community mental health clinics, community health centers, substance abuse treatment facilities, and rural health clinics, to test the effectiveness of community partnerships in helping to meet the mental health needs of veterans in a timely way. Pilot sites shall ensure that consumers of community-based services continue to be integrated into the health care systems of the Department of Veterans Affairs. No fewer than 15 pilot projects shall be established.

(b) The Department of Veterans Affairs shall develop guidance for its medical centers and service networks that supports the use of community mental health services, including telehealth services and substance abuse services, where appropriate, to meet demand and facilitate access to care. This guidance shall include recommendations that medical centers and service networks use community-based providers to help meet veterans’ mental health needs where objective criteria, which the Department of Veterans Affairs shall define in the form of specific metrics, demonstrate such needs. Such objective criteria should include estimates of wait-times for needed care that exceed established targets.

(c) The Departments of Health and Human Services and Veterans Affairs shall develop a plan for a rural mental health recruitment initiative to promote opportunities for the Department of Veterans Affairs and rural communities to share mental health providers when demand is insufficient for either the Department of Veterans Affairs or the communities to independently support a full time provider.

Sec. 4. Expanded Department of Veterans Affairs Mental Health Services Staffing. The Secretary of Veterans Affairs shall, by December 31, 2013, hire and train 800 peer to peer counselors to empower veterans to support other veterans and help meet mental health care needs. In addition, the Secretary shall continue to use all appropriate tools, including collaborative arrangements with community based providers, pay setting authorities, loan repayment and scholarships, and partnerships with health care workforce training programs to accomplish the Department of Veterans Affairs’ goal of recruiting, hiring, and placing 1,600 mental health professionals by June 30, 2013. The Department of Veterans Affairs also shall evaluate the reporting requirements associated with providing mental health services and reduce paperwork requirements where appropriate. In addition, the Department of Veterans Affairs shall update its management performance evaluation system to link performance to meeting mental health service demand.

Sec. 5. Improved Research and Development. (a) The lack of full understanding of the underlying mechanisms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), other mental health conditions, and Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) has hampered progress in prevention, diagnosis, and treatment. In order to improve the coordination of agency research into these conditions and reduce the number of affected men and women through better prevention, diagnosis, and treatment, the Departments of Defense, Veterans Affairs, Health and Human Services, and Education, in coordination with the Office of Science and Technology Policy, shall establish a National Research Action Plan within 8 months of the date of this order.

(b) The National Research Action Plan shall include strategies to establish surrogate and clinically actionable biomarkers for early diagnosis and treatment effectiveness; develop improved diagnostic criteria for TBI; enhance our understanding of the mechanisms responsible for PTSD, related injuries, and neurological disorders following TBI; foster development of new treatments for these conditions based on a better understanding of the underlying mechanisms; improve data sharing between agencies and academic and industry researchers to accelerate progress and reduce redundant efforts without compromising privacy; and make better use of electronic health records to gain insight into the risk and mitigation of PTSD, TBI, and related injuries. In addition, the National Research Action Plan shall include strategies to support collaborative research to address suicide prevention.

(c) The Departments of Defense and Health and Human Services shall engage in a comprehensive longitudinal mental health study with an emphasis on PTSD, TBI, and related injuries to develop better prevention, diagnosis, and treatment options. Agencies shall continue ongoing collaborative research efforts, with an aim to enroll at least 100,000 service members by December 31, 2012, and include a plan for long term follow up with enrollees through a coordinated effort with the Department of Veterans Affairs.

Sec. 6. Military and Veterans Mental Health Interagency Task Force. There is established an Interagency Task Force on Military and Veterans Mental Health (Task Force), to be co chaired by the Secretaries of Defense, Veterans Affairs, and Health and Human Services, or their designated representatives.

(a) Membership. In addition to the Co-Chairs, the Task Force shall consist of representatives from:

(i) the Department of Education;

(ii) the Office of Management and Budget;

(iii) the Domestic Policy Council;

(iv) the National Security Staff;

(v) the Office of Science and Technology Policy;

(vi) the Office of National Drug Control Policy; and

(vii) such other executive departments, agencies, or offices as the Co-Chairs may designate.

A member agency of the Task Force shall designate a full time officer or employee of the Federal Government to perform the Task Force functions.

(b) Mission. Member agencies shall review relevant statutes, policies, and agency training and guidance to identify reforms and take actions that facilitate implementation of the strategies outlined in this order. Member agencies shall work collaboratively on these strategies and also create an inventory of mental health and substance abuse programs and activities to inform this work.

(c) Functions.

(i) Not later than 180 days after the date of this order, the Task Force shall submit recommendations to the President on strategies to improve mental health and substance abuse treatment services for veterans, service members, and their families. Every year thereafter, the Task Force shall provide to the President a review of agency actions to enhance mental health and substance abuse treatment services for veterans, service members, and their families consistent with this order, as well as provide additional recommendations for action as appropriate. The Task Force shall define specific goals and metrics that will aid in measuring progress in improving mental health strategies. The Task Force will include cost analysis in the development of all recommendations, and will ensure any new requirements are supported within existing resources.

(ii) In addition to coordinating and reviewing agency efforts to enhance veteran and military mental health services pursuant to this order, the Task Force shall evaluate:

(1) agency efforts to improve care quality and ensure that the Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs and community based mental health providers are trained in the most current evidence based methodologies for treating PTSD, TBI, depression, related mental health conditions, and substance abuse;

(2) agency efforts to improve awareness and reduce stigma for those needing to seek care; and

(3) agency research efforts to improve the prevention, diagnosis, and treatment of TBI, PTSD, and related injuries, and explore the need for an external research portfolio review.

(iii) In performing its functions, the Task Force shall consult with relevant nongovernmental experts and organizations as necessary.

Sec. 7. General Provisions. (a) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(b) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(c) This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

BARACK OBAMA

THE WHITE HOUSE,
August 31, 2012


14 posted on 09/03/2012 7:19:11 PM PDT by Bronzy (No more RINOS)
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To: Jonty30

You got that right. Once one is labelled “troubled”, one’s right to own, possess , and be around firearms goes next.


15 posted on 09/03/2012 7:19:27 PM PDT by sport
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To: Bronzy
(vii) such other executive departments, agencies, or offices as the Co-Chairs may designate. A member agency of the Task Force shall designate a full time officer or employee of the Federal Government to perform the Task Force functions. what in the f does that really mean? These people are Friederike scary.
16 posted on 09/03/2012 7:21:33 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: Bronzy

Bump


17 posted on 09/03/2012 7:23:28 PM PDT by Amntn
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To: Bronzy

oh this is not good at all


18 posted on 09/03/2012 7:26:03 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: tired&retired

This order was 8/31/12. Was Joshua a part of that? They are going after our heroes.


19 posted on 09/03/2012 7:27:02 PM PDT by Bronzy (No more RINOS)
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To: ColdOne

what in the f does that really mean?
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It means that the Feds still OWN their a$$ even though they are now in their civvies. Just a guess.


20 posted on 09/03/2012 7:27:25 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Bocephus hits a home run! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_vjPqAVzI)
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To: Bronzy

Thank you!!!


21 posted on 09/03/2012 7:33:59 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: MagUSNRET
Good evening.

I may be mistaken, but I believe that if you are diagnosed and “registered” as having a mental illness of ANY kind [at the VA], you are no longer permitted to own/buy firearms.

You are correct.

5.56mm

22 posted on 09/03/2012 7:34:52 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: ColdOne

Friederike scary...? I’m not sure what that means. I do not know Friederike.


23 posted on 09/03/2012 7:35:50 PM PDT by Bronzy (No more RINOS)
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To: Bronzy

I would suggest that vets stay away from this program at all costs. Once you get on their list as “troubled” you will never be able to get off it and you will be subject to future warrant-less actions by government agencies. Find some other method to get help if possible including private insurance, free counseling, churches, etc. This is my opinion based upon experience of others and the way government is functioning today.


24 posted on 09/03/2012 7:44:04 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Just wanted this to get out here in the real world. Thank you, too.

I did not hear about this on the MSM.


25 posted on 09/03/2012 7:49:28 PM PDT by Bronzy (No more RINOS)
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To: Bronzy
I did not hear about this on the MSM.

If you do, it'll be presented as all warm and fuzzy and kind and caring. Blech

26 posted on 09/03/2012 7:53:07 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Bronzy

Joshua is active duty in the 82nd Airborne who after several tours of tough combat duty was in the Warrior Transition Battalion at Ft. Bragg. due to his severe PTSD. They left him live off base due to his rank and when a firefighter tried to smash down his door due to a small fire that had already been extinguished on his back porch, Josh awoke to the loud sound of his door being demolished and had a PTSD flashback to combat in Afghanistan. He thought he was being attacked by insurgents.

Joshua is still in state prison being tortured by his PTSD flashbacks and being refused treatment by both the military and the North Carolina Prison system. He has harmed no one in the incident and was shot himself at least four times including twice in the face. He really needs public support.


27 posted on 09/03/2012 7:53:19 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: RetiredTexasVet
(c) Of Sec. 5 : (c) The Departments of Defense and Health and Human Services shall engage in a comprehensive longitudinal mental health study with an emphasis on PTSD, TBI, and related injuries to develop better prevention, diagnosis, and treatment options. Agencies shall continue ongoing collaborative research efforts, with an aim to enroll at least 100,000 service members by December 31, 2012, and include a plan for long term follow up with enrollees through a coordinated effort with the Department of Veterans Affairs.

“...enroll at least 100,000 service members by December 31, 2012,...

That is by the end of the year!

28 posted on 09/03/2012 7:55:14 PM PDT by Bronzy (No more RINOS)
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To: MagUSNRET
I may be mistaken, but I believe that if you are diagnosed and “registered” as having a mental illness of ANY kind, you are no longer permit(t)ed to own/buy firearms..

************

We have a WIN-N-N-NAH-H-H-H-H-H!!!!

29 posted on 09/03/2012 8:00:36 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Bronzy

that would be fn scary....proof reading...good thing!!!!


30 posted on 09/03/2012 8:03:27 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: Bronzy
Without going into details, VA has some good medical facilities (vast improvement over a decade or so ago) but the system is primed for nut cases.

Their medical scope has advanced to an amazing degree and today's troops deserve no less.

But mention Vietnam and you'd better be crazy as a loon, homeless, and willing to drool on command...or one those who sat comfy in El Segundo for three years and are now just as comfy gaming the system and thus enjoying the mother of all safety nets.

Those with trouble breathing, sleeping, coping, or simply applying for help need not apply.

31 posted on 09/03/2012 8:08:12 PM PDT by norton
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To: norton
“Their medical scope has advanced to an amazing degree and today's troops deserve no less.”

I agree with that. I want our troops to have the best.

I read this order as an assault on able bodied troops comming home.

32 posted on 09/03/2012 8:18:51 PM PDT by Bronzy (No more RINOS)
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To: Wings-n-Wind

What bothers me more than anything (particularly in my profession and being retired military) is knowing that some of our veterans will “blindly” go into a VA and sign “whatever” papers, just to get help...not knowing the ramifications...AND more importantly...........in the past many years the powers that be call ANYTHING, “PTSD”, when it fact it is NOT! Once again, the military is getting short schrift due to the drunken idiots we tend to call politicians, and the Marxists we tend to call “Democrats”
GOD DAMN Obammy and the b*tch he rode in on!
(rant off)


33 posted on 09/03/2012 8:19:29 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: Bronzy
A red flag immediately went up for me when b.o. made an announcement in early 2009 that he was going to make sure vets got treated for extremely high occurences of PTSD. I had previously heard or read nothing about this notion.

Our military is the biggest threat to his total takeover of this nation. Why would anyone believe he wants to do what's best for them?

Keep remembering Brandon Raub.

34 posted on 09/03/2012 8:20:35 PM PDT by taraytarah
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To: Bronzy

Ah, don’t get me started!

Shrink here, board certified yada yada yada - In private practice for the past three years after 22 years treating some of the sickest of the sick in all kinds of settings. Pretty darned good at what I do (meds, psychotherapy, TMS).

Just to round out the picture with a little backstory - Hospital Corpsman, shipboard, Gator Fleet, independent duty station, during the latter days of our country’s Viet Nam Adventure: saw some small action off the coasts of Cambodia and South Viet Nam when those countries fell to the Communists under our watch [or shortly after we relinquished our watch to cover our a$$es].

Back to the present: Lots of Navy and other military folks around here where I practice now, and a boatload of Vets who could use my services. The Navy hospital and Triwest/Tricare sends me dependents, which its fine unless I have to deal with their lab - who won’t send me results because I’m not a “Navy doctor” - or their primitive, 1980s-formulary pharmacy - or their pathetically poorly-trained doctors who bad-mouth me to my patients for using proven treatments that get them well. And not one of any of them - lab or pharmacy or doctors - will return my calls or send me lab results or act like I even exist. And the few times I’ve treated active duty personnel - who must get a waiver to come see me after some dissatisfaction or conflict of interest with the military healthcare system - well, let’s just say that what I hear does not inspire confidence.

Shift now to the VA, and magnify all the problems many orders of magnitude.

In my medical school training and psychiatric residency, I did rotations at both inpatient and outpatient VA facilities, and it was always the pits - the worst of the worst healthcare - wherever I was. And it was not the funding, as far as I could tell: it was the attitude. The Federal bureaucracy, in all its glory, involved in healthcare. What a travesty.

When I started my current private practice, I looked into seeing VA patients. Clinically, it was joke, and a grand exercise in headaches and frustration, and financially it was a money-looser. I said no.

And now? No matter what Executive Order Obama signs [extra-Constitutionally], until they give the Vets a voucher to go see the civilian doctor of their choice, and pay for whatever 21st century med that doctor prescribes, they can count me out, and probably count out any doctor worth their salt.


35 posted on 09/03/2012 8:21:50 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: tired&retired

bfl


36 posted on 09/03/2012 8:22:29 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: MagUSNRET

and this crap is unchallenged and in effect dec 2012


37 posted on 09/03/2012 8:22:31 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: Bronzy

The Veterans Administration is hiring many MANY mental health professionals to “deal with this issue”...Forgive me, but that is horsechit! There is another agenda here and aiding our men and women with Post Trauma issues is NOT their main intent! and NO, I do not wear Tin foil...I just know beaurocratic and Obammy HORSECHIT when I see it!


38 posted on 09/03/2012 8:24:20 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: taraytarah

YOU are CORRECT, SIR!
This
Executive Order” is nothing more than this Marxist Mulattos effort to disarm ANYONE trained (military) to go against this damned idiot!


39 posted on 09/03/2012 8:27:37 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: advertising guy

thanks for being here...my blood pressure over this particular issue is SKY HIGH! I take it VERY seriously when government pukes try to play fast and loose with my men (and yes, they ARE “MY MEN” and I defy anyone to tell me otherwise! And I am a damned good shot...(and spare me the “But women serve too” horsechit...you all know what I meant, and if you didnt, you belong on DU!)


40 posted on 09/03/2012 8:31:57 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: advertising guy

mail for you, with a chitload of typs LOL


41 posted on 09/03/2012 8:33:46 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: MagUSNRET

I’d hate to get caught right now stEALIN A PIE COOLIN IN YOUR KITCHEN WINDOW


42 posted on 09/03/2012 8:42:07 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: advertising guy

LMAO!!!!!!!!! Smart man...but considering your life recently...you can’t run all that damned fast, so you wouldn’t be a “fair target” ;-)


43 posted on 09/03/2012 8:43:21 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: MagUSNRET

bs..i LOST 14 POUNDS...YOUD MISS ME 12 OR 5 TIMES


44 posted on 09/03/2012 8:46:01 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: advertising guy

MY CAPLOCKS THING IS JAMMED


45 posted on 09/03/2012 8:46:45 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: advertising guy

...........IT’S A TEXAS THING


46 posted on 09/03/2012 8:47:13 PM PDT by advertising guy (" that lie has it's own sleep number " David Feherty PGA Championship 2012)
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To: MagUSNRET
“.I just know beaurocratic and Obammy HORSECHIT when I see it!”

Duh...That is why I have alerted people to this Executive Order.

47 posted on 09/03/2012 8:47:33 PM PDT by Bronzy (No more RINOS)
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To: Slings and Arrows

“I took my guns on a fishing trip, and they fell out of the boat. My guns are on the bottom of the lake, honest”


48 posted on 09/03/2012 8:48:40 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Bronzy

I THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT TOO!

(please pardon my caps lock)


49 posted on 09/03/2012 8:48:55 PM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: Bronzy; All

This has a P-U factor that has already reached the moon.

Re-education anyone ..???????????


50 posted on 09/03/2012 8:50:12 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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