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Democrats to adopt historic stance on marriage
San Antonio Express News ^ | 2 September 2012 | Joe Garofoli

Posted on 09/03/2012 9:02:52 PM PDT by Racehorse

Eight years after California Sen. Dianne Feinstein said the push for legalizing same-sex marriage was “too much, too fast, too soon,” the Democratic Party will make history Tuesday when it is expected to be the first major party to endorse same-sex marriage in its platform.

While the plank packs no legal power, it marks a cultural milestone.

“Another important societal cue that things are shifting,” said Amy Simon, an Oakland pollster who is working for advocates who want to legalize gay marriage in Maine and Washington. “As people are working through their conflicting feelings on this, they're looking for cues and this is another one.”

The platform declaration could spark political blowback, and one of the nation's leading opponents of same-sex marriage already is trying to make it an issue in pivotal swing states that have passed laws codifying marriage as a union of one man and one woman.

“By doing this, the Democratic Party is basically telling voters in places like North Carolina and Florida that they're a bunch of bigots,” said consultant Frank Schubert, the strategist behind California's Proposition 8 and similar campaigns to bar gay unions in four states where marriage is on the ballot in November.

The National Organization for Marriage began airing radio ads last week in North Carolina, targeting religious African Americans.

(Excerpt) Read more at mysanantonio.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012dncconvention; 2012dncplatform; democrats; gaymarriage; homosexual; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; lavendermafia; marriage; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 09/03/2012 9:02:53 PM PDT by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse

They are throwing the election. One has to wonder why.


2 posted on 09/03/2012 9:04:18 PM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Racehorse

If gay marriage is so wonderful, why won’t hillary or barry come out of the closet?


3 posted on 09/03/2012 9:05:10 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Psalm 144
They are throwing the election

Hope you're right.

It is true that their gay marriage plank flies in the face of every single referendum that has been held up to now.

Obviously the people don't want this.

4 posted on 09/03/2012 9:07:42 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Racehorse

It’s like, “We dare you neanderthals to vote against us!”


5 posted on 09/03/2012 9:09:33 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Racehorse

The majority of black Christians do not support gay marriage.


6 posted on 09/03/2012 9:14:09 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Racehorse

The Dem platform would place no limits at all on abortion, the most extreme position ever.


7 posted on 09/03/2012 9:14:18 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: BradyLS

Bev Perdue finished Govenor of North Carolina called her citizens just that after it was voted down


8 posted on 09/03/2012 9:15:06 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: Racehorse

I think it meant “histrionic”


9 posted on 09/03/2012 9:16:12 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Racehorse

Ewwwww.


10 posted on 09/03/2012 9:17:00 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Racehorse

A cultural milestone on the road to hell.


11 posted on 09/03/2012 9:17:08 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Racehorse
Oh yeah. I bet this is going to go over great with the Longshoremen and the swinging d*ck union guys.

That'll get them out to vote for sure.....

12 posted on 09/03/2012 9:17:47 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Jane Long

The majority of blacks don’t condone gay marriage, or queers, for that matter.


13 posted on 09/03/2012 9:18:29 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: Racehorse

What a bunch of buffoons. They’re actually going to go up against the Chik-fil-A Effect in their national platform.

Good bye, Dummies.


14 posted on 09/03/2012 9:19:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: doc1019
The majority of blacks don’t condone gay marriage, or queers, for that matter.

Neither do Hispanics. These loons are committing political suicide.

How can we help?

15 posted on 09/03/2012 9:21:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Do nothing ... they are killing themselves.


16 posted on 09/03/2012 9:24:11 PM PDT by doc1019 (Given my choices, I will not be voting this time around.)
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To: Cicero

Maybe that’s why Charlie Crist is speaking at the convention?


17 posted on 09/03/2012 9:29:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Jane Long

True, but like Hispanics they vote the tribe. Blacks want affirmative-action and Hispanics want immigration legalization. Everything else is secondary. This is why Romney and Obama are in a statistical dead heat. Single-white women who according to Gallup voted “overwhelmingly” for Obama in 2008 will be back again.


18 posted on 09/03/2012 9:31:55 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Racehorse
Dems to adopt historic stance on marriage

They are fundamentally transforming it.

19 posted on 09/03/2012 9:32:22 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: Steelfish

The hispanics I know do NOT want amnesty for illegals.


20 posted on 09/03/2012 9:36:52 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Windflier

My guess is Romney will win handily and they know it. The DNC narrative will be that—thanks to Romney’s “toxic rhetoric”—”angry conservatives” turned out in “record numbers” to vote while “frightened” Democrats, independents and moderate Republicans stayed home, possibly “hiding.”

We can help by telling the truth: Obama’s record speaks for itself and folks don’t want a repeat performance.


21 posted on 09/03/2012 9:40:04 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Racehorse

“The platform declaration could spark political blowback”

Looks like they mean it.


22 posted on 09/03/2012 9:40:32 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: Cicero
If gay marriage is so wonderful, why won’t hillary or barry come out of the closet?

Great point.

23 posted on 09/03/2012 9:42:16 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Racehorse

Black and Hispanics must be good with gay marriage and free abortion on demand.


24 posted on 09/03/2012 9:45:18 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (CREDO QUIA ABSURDUM)
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To: Racehorse

A certain line from “Tropic Thunder” comes to mind. The DNC just went Full, well, you know...


25 posted on 09/03/2012 9:48:11 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Psalm 144

If they are going to go down, they want to go down in rainbow colored flames? It’s the chance of a lifetime to be a spectacle.


26 posted on 09/03/2012 9:50:03 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Racehorse
The Democrats must be insane to do this. Just about everywhere same-sex marriages was put to a decision by the voters in an election, it has lost by significant margins.
27 posted on 09/03/2012 9:52:15 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: RayChuang88

Even in Democratic California! The Left needed the Nine Circus to thwart the will of the voters.


28 posted on 09/03/2012 10:00:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: BradyLS
The DNC narrative will be that—thanks to Romney’s “toxic rhetoric”—”angry conservatives” turned out in “record numbers” to vote while “frightened” Democrats, independents and moderate Republicans stayed home, possibly “hiding.”

Yep. Republican 'Forces of Darkness', 'evil GOP scheming', 'vile rhetoric', 'racist backlash', 'Wall Street money', 'Tea Party fear mongering', 'Birther swiftboating', 'racist bitter clingers', etc., ad infinitum...

The DNC and the leftstream press will say all that and more, to excuse the stunning loss of their pathetic empty suit. They'll never admit the obvious. America gave Obama a chance, and he royally blew it.

29 posted on 09/03/2012 10:03:37 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Racehorse

**major party to endorse same-sex marriage in its platform.**

Adding to the plank in their platform that supports abortion.

God will be the judge.


30 posted on 09/03/2012 10:05:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Windflier

Most people vote for their economic interest, especially those who constantly vote democrat. The electorate may not like parafilia “marriage” legalized but will be over looked in exchange for economic “spread the wealth by force” baloney.


31 posted on 09/03/2012 10:08:00 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Windflier

Sorry paraphilia, iPad thinks I am speaking Spanish or something with their spell checker


32 posted on 09/03/2012 10:12:04 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If they are going to go down, they want to go down in rainbow colored flames? It’s the chance of a lifetime to be a spectacle.

They want to say that Obama offered America the "brightest future imaginable" for his second term. But the "angry backlash" from "the short-sighted and close-minded" rebuked him.

That won't be the real reason for rejecting Obama's bid for a second term, but that's what the DNC will want to tell us.

33 posted on 09/03/2012 10:12:20 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: rollo tomasi
Most people vote for their economic interest, especially those who constantly vote democrat.

Not all Democrats are de facto wards of the state. Those who actually work for a living, and who have been injured by Obama's Marxist policies, are going to have a hard time pulling the lever for him again. They probably remember how much better things were under Clinton and Bush, and are shocked at what a mess Barky's made of the country.

That's where he's going to lose the most votes.

The truly parasitic class will of course vote for more unrestrained theft and redistribution of wealth. It's how they eat. Judging by the latest pictures from the Dem convention, they're the only one's who've shown up.

Most of my family are Dems, but they're all hard working professionals with families, homes, 401Ks, stocks, college tuition payments, etc. They're all tax paying stakeholders, and none of them are smiling about November.

None of them have Obama stickers on their cars, either, and unlike the last go-round, none of them have emailed me a single word about Obama.

I'm telling you, Barky's toast.

34 posted on 09/03/2012 10:20:49 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Salvation
When I saw "historic stance on marriage" I thought the dems had regained sanity and were proposing to support the "historic stance" of one man, one woman.

Guess I was wrong. Nothing "historic" about gay marriage. Not even in ancient Rome.

35 posted on 09/03/2012 10:30:49 PM PDT by boop (It's not personal...it's strictly business)
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To: Jane Long
Blacks will still go 95%+ for Obama (I can't imagine them 'dissing' him by voting for a white man over him)....but I CAN see them not not showing up in the numbers they did in 2008.

"I didn't vote for Romney" gives them a pass they can live with.

36 posted on 09/03/2012 10:36:34 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Psalm 144

I doubt it, black voters will not vote for Romney, and white social conservatives would vote for him anyway, nobody will do anything differently.


37 posted on 09/04/2012 12:02:19 AM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: BurningOak

Very true, which is why, of course, they are doing it.


38 posted on 09/04/2012 12:18:09 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: RayChuang88
But this show is just at the convention main street democrats won't be at the convention only the OWS types, the legalize weed coalition and so on. The media
will just run interference for the rats and hide it from the unassuming public.
39 posted on 09/04/2012 12:34:13 AM PDT by funfan
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To: Jane Long

(The majority of black Christians do not support gay marriage.)

I hate to say it, but I don’t think that will matter to them, nor will it matter that Barack has been an absolutely disaster to blacks.


40 posted on 09/04/2012 1:13:20 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: what's up; Psalm 144
It is true that their gay marriage plank flies in the face of every single referendum that has been held up to now. Obviously the people don't want this.

Of course not -- this is all the doing of a very small, supremely selfish and evil little grievance-group determined to "push it 'til it breaks" in the belief that it'll never break.

Gays have tons of money, Obama needs tons of money. This is a straight-up tradeoff, money for a perverted platform. The movement gays are relying on their moles in Media -- no telling what the proportion of homosexuals in media is these days, but it's no doubt high enough to have set Fred Friendly's head spinning back in the day -- to bash their marks, us, into submission.

41 posted on 09/04/2012 1:33:58 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Racehorse
Eight years after California Sen. Dianne Feinstein said the push for legalizing same-sex marriage was “too much, too fast, too soon,” the Democratic Party will make history Tuesday when it is expected to be the first major party to endorse same-sex marriage in its platform.

This action is consistent with the premise that leftists, liberals, and Democrats have disordered minds. It is also consistent with the foundational thesis that men and women are 100% interchangeable. That is also what feminism is all about. That is what same sex marriage is all about.

We are experiencing biblical times.

42 posted on 09/04/2012 2:29:45 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Racehorse

““By doing this, the Democratic Party is basically telling voters in places like North Carolina and Florida that they’re a bunch of bigots,” said consultant Frank Schubert”

Right, not exactly a smart move...


43 posted on 09/04/2012 3:52:52 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Racehorse

It’s so historic, North Carolinians rejected it.


44 posted on 09/04/2012 4:08:52 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Racehorse

Look at all the dictionaries of law foe the last 800 years.
They will define “marriage” as the union of one man and one woman.
Look at all the ecclesiastical writings of the last 1000 years.
They will define “marriage” as the union of one man and one woman.
Look at the samples of the best poetry and prose for the last 2000 years.
They will define “marriage” as the union of one man and one woman.

So call it whatever they want. Call it “queerage”. Call it whatever.

But trying to change language will never change whether or not it is “a social norm”.
And it will never be a social norm because it is not a biological, God given, scientific norm.

So much of the homosexual agenda makes me think that they are actually deep;y ashamed by their behavior.


45 posted on 09/04/2012 4:14:12 AM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: beethovenfan

Not really history. For much of the 6000 years of recored human history homosexuality was condoned by most culutures, ie greeks, romans, babylonians, persians, egyptians... It was Jews in the ancient world who condemned it (one reason they were hated so much) and then Christians. All we are doing is going back 2000 years when we accept this behavior.


46 posted on 09/04/2012 4:45:13 AM PDT by scbison
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To: Army Air Corps

47 posted on 09/04/2012 4:47:56 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Psalm 144

I don’t think their “throwing the election,” which would imply willful disregard. They actually, stupidly think that the majority of people in the country are in favor of trashing marriage.

The DemocRat Party is simply lobotomized.


48 posted on 09/04/2012 5:23:21 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Salvation

It’ll be nothing short of sin to vote for that platform and any of those candidates that endorse it!

HF


49 posted on 09/04/2012 6:30:14 AM PDT by holden
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To: Psalm 144

The war on Christian values continues. They are not “throwing” the election they are waging total war on Judeo/Christian values. And they might just win, given the success of the Marxist indoctrination centers (public schools) in this country.


50 posted on 09/04/2012 6:38:10 AM PDT by jpsb
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