Leader of anti-Semitic party in Hungary discovers he is Jewish

The Star ^ | August 16, 2012 | Pablo Gorondi

[rmlew]

You want to find a source that doesn’t call Zionists Nazis? Lloyd has an ax to grind.

[BroJoeK]

rmlew: "You want to find a source that doesn’t call Zionists Nazis?
Lloyd has an ax to grind."

Say what??
I know nothing about Lloyd Thomas, but the site looks legit, certainly not anti-Semitic -- and nothing about "Zionists Nazis".

Indeed, here is their home page.
What's the problem?

Here is another site reporting on DNA analysis.

And here is a pretty good summary -- fair and balanced -- of the whole discussion.

So the bottom line:
There are very old claims that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish, and some evidence, including DNA, supporting them.
There is no convincing evidence otherwise.

Of course, you are free to believe what you wish about it, but I'll say again: it certainly sheds light on Hitler's violent anti-Semitism.

Indeed, what other explanation comes anywhere as close?

[rmlew]

I know nothing about Lloyd Thomas, but the site looks legit, certainly not anti-Semitic -- and nothing about "Zionists Nazis".
I suggest that you read a bit more carefully. About a third of the way down the page on the right side, below the picture of Auschwitz victims, there is an Israeli flag, with a Swastika and a caption "See also: Zionist Fascism". This should be a dead giveaway. http://www.lloydthomas.org/Graphics/Israel-nazi.gif

What's the problem?
I don't feel like spending an hour pointing out each historical inaccuracy.

There are very old claims that Hitler's grandfather was Jewish, and some evidence, including DNA, supporting them. There is no convincing evidence otherwise.
Plenty of Germans and Czechs have some Jewish Ancestry. Figuring out where and when is the hard part.

Indeed, what other explanation comes anywhere as close?
German Romantic Nationalism and the Volkisch movement? Go read the works of Wilhelm Marr, who coined the term anti-Semitic, to explain his modern, scientific, racial hatred of Jews and differentiated it from the medieval religious Judenhass (Jew Hate). Karl Leuger of the Christian Social Party was elected a few times as mayor of Vienna on a platform attacking Jews, especially those from the east. Hitler was fond of Leuger.

[BroJoeK]

rmlew: "About a third of the way down the page on the right side, below the picture of Auschwitz victims, there is an Israeli flag, with a Swastika and a caption "See also: Zionist Fascism".
This should be a dead giveaway."

Sorry, my bad -- did not intend to provide a link to lunatics.

rmlew: "Plenty of Germans and Czechs have some Jewish Ancestry."

So, you agree it would not be so unusual to find that Hitler too had Jewish ancestors?

We should note again that allegations of Hitler's Jewish grandfather came early and came from people close to Hitler.
Those could just as easily claim some other scandal -- i.e., illegitimate birth, incestuous parents, etc. -- but they chose Jewish ancestry for a reason, political doubtless, but also likely that is what they knew.

rmlew: "Hitler was fond of Leuger."

Did Leuger advocate mass extermination of Jews?
I doubt it.
Hitler was in a different class, one requiring more explanation...

Finally, check out the other two sites linked above.
Hopefully you'll find them factual, fair and free of anti-Semitism.