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When The Music Stops – How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence
Western Rifle Shooters Association ^ | September 4, 2012 | Matt Bracken

Posted on 09/04/2012 5:37:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee

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To: PapaBear3625

I have no friends. Everyone hates me. I think I’ll go eat worms.


51 posted on 09/04/2012 6:52:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

By the time that happens, (checkpoints searching for firearms), vigilante action will already be underway.

The vigilantes will consider anybody searching for firearms to be just one more set of enemies to shoot at. A checkpoint can’t protect itself from sniper attack without a vast ring of counter-snipers, UAVs overhead, etc.

That kind of manpower simply does not exist.

As the British Army how things went after they were initially welcomed with open arms as peacekeepers by the Catholics in Norther Ireland in 1969.

As soon as the checkpoints went up, the real war began.


52 posted on 09/04/2012 6:53:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lazamataz

Plenty of worms out back in the compost heap. If you can make it up here during SHTF, I’ll even spot you some ammo... ;-)


53 posted on 09/04/2012 6:55:02 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: CodeToad; Citizen Tom Paine
“martial law will be declared and roads blockaded with checkpoints. “ That would be a lot of troops. Where do those troops come from?

If things get that bad, current troops will be more concerned with the safety of their own families. Expect a number of desertions. For Reserves and National Guard, quite a few may decline to show up, it it means firing on friends and relatives.

One tactic would be to recruit "urban underclass" males, give them brief training, issue them Army uniforms and weapons, and have them man the checkpoints. After a few atrocities committed by "urban youth" masquerading as military, things will get truly ugly.

54 posted on 09/04/2012 6:55:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Travis McGee; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale
re-ping...

the only oversight i see Matt, is the ability of the MUYs to accept/integrate a whoooole bunch of their trained comrades into leadership positions...

of course, 'ethnic' types who stand for FReedom and join the suburbian will be a great asset to us as well...

55 posted on 09/04/2012 6:57:22 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: PapaBear3625
So what happens when the middle class, while it is still a voting majority, decides to end the looting?

At the very least, enraged and starving urban dwellers can hold the critical infrastructure running through their areas hostage. They will snipe at highway traffic and landing airplanes, they will sabotage rail lines and pipelines and fiber-optic commo cables, etc. They can cause massive disruptions to the outside society simply by sabotage, in order to demand the resumption of free food.

56 posted on 09/04/2012 6:58:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Loud Mime
We won’t have enough prison space to hold all the perps, so the police will have to be selective on who they will detain.

Think "football stadium and concertina wire".

57 posted on 09/04/2012 6:58:07 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

The people who most need to consider this scenario, the enabler class of middle to upper class liberal
“progressives”, will refuse to read it. After all, Matt Bracken is a “right wing nut” to them, and nothing he says should be read, lest it be seen as truth.


58 posted on 09/04/2012 6:59:45 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Qwackertoo

“So glad I don’t live near a large city. We should capture and ship gang members to Guantanamo Bay.”

It doesn’t matter. I live in a small city (York, PA) and we have about 40 gangs, and the butcher’s bill is going up.


59 posted on 09/04/2012 7:00:18 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Travis McGee

bump for later


60 posted on 09/04/2012 7:00:29 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Dead Corpse

Where you at? I got a Glock so I can make my way to safe haven.


61 posted on 09/04/2012 7:00:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Travis McGee

The ebt cards will only go blank when the US is toppled from world domination. Until then the gubmint will continue to manufacture bread and circuses. Another 4 years of Obamby might be enough to realize the dreams of his father. Mitt will only slow the crash and attract the blame.


62 posted on 09/04/2012 7:00:59 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningfull to say)
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To: Gilbo_3

The essay was already very long at 5,600 words, so I felt I could not go on with the predictable next escalations in the urban warfare scenario. But the urban vets will quickly grasp the importance of long range riflery, and soon the “no-man’s lands” will be rifle distance or greater. Anybody living in that zone will be out of luck, to say the least.


63 posted on 09/04/2012 7:01:16 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DuncanWaring

Stadiums are only a short-term proposition as holding areas.

The prisoners there will soon have to be released, taken to “FEMA camps,” or perhaps just a one way trip to deep hole.


64 posted on 09/04/2012 7:03:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RepRivFarm
In the event of flash mobs and riots, why wouldn’t the government simply shut down cell phone service?

This administration is more likely to shut down OUR communications to prevent a timely response to the depredations of their brethren.

65 posted on 09/04/2012 7:03:16 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

I wish I could get them to read my stuff. I don’t intend my writing to be only for the conservative choir. The ones who most need to consider these scenarios are the ones on the left.


66 posted on 09/04/2012 7:04:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
At the very least, enraged and starving urban dwellers can hold the critical infrastructure running through their areas hostage. They will snipe at highway traffic and landing airplanes, they will sabotage rail lines and pipelines and fiber-optic commo cables, etc. They can cause massive disruptions to the outside society simply by sabotage, in order to demand the resumption of free food.

Welfare, for the most part, is given to the female underclass. Plan B: females are given new cards, but only on the condition that they AND their dependents submit to sterilization before the new cards are handed out.

67 posted on 09/04/2012 7:05:17 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

This is very possible whether obama wins or loses.

If he loses, he will have about two months to unleash his peeps and really foul up this country for Romney. Don’t forget all the little time bombs Clinton left for GW Bush. Like 9/11. He has nothing to lose.

If he wins, he can go all Hugo Chavez on us. He has thrown the Constitution out the window WHILE running for a second term. If he gets a second, we will be transformed into a mix of Venezuela and Argentina.

This is a man/regime with no emotional attachment to our country or it’s people and would do this.


68 posted on 09/04/2012 7:06:10 AM PDT by Texas resident (November 6 - Vote Against the cpusa)
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To: Louis Foxwell
The ghetto will end overnight when government stops enforcing its existence.

What you don't realize is that there are millions of induhviduals out there who know, to the very marrow of their bones, that because their great-great-great-great grandparents were captured and sold into slavery by the next tribe over the ridge or up the river that they, and their descendendents in perpetuity, are owed free goodies forever.

69 posted on 09/04/2012 7:06:35 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee

I’ve bookmarked your blog, as I see this thread being “No thanks”ed by the Mods in short order.


70 posted on 09/04/2012 7:08:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Travis McGee

Just make sure that cable service doesn’t go down and that the liquor stores are re-stocked and you won’t have any problems with riots.


71 posted on 09/04/2012 7:08:36 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“One tactic would be to recruit “urban underclass” males, give them brief training, issue them Army uniforms and weapons, and have them man the checkpoints. After a few atrocities committed by “urban youth” masquerading as military, things will get truly ugly.”

Dead on. That recruitment tactic will last only a few days before the people tear those mental midgets apart.


72 posted on 09/04/2012 7:08:51 AM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: Travis McGee

Is there any contingency plan, that you know of or suspect, that would immediately disconnect service to all “welfare phones” as though the bill hadn’t been paid?


73 posted on 09/04/2012 7:09:06 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

No freaking idea.


74 posted on 09/04/2012 7:09:49 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CodeToad
Where do those troops come from?

We don't know for sure, but they're likely to be wearing blue helmets.

Blue helmets make fine targets.

75 posted on 09/04/2012 7:10:40 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Nah, they won’t deep-six it. Why would they?


76 posted on 09/04/2012 7:11:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DuncanWaring

“Is there any contingency plan, that you know of or suspect, that would immediately disconnect service to all “welfare phones” as though the bill hadn’t been paid?”

No. Those phones are locally purchased without planning of any sort. Of course a list of those phones is available and they could one by one turn them off, but there isn’t a wholesale capability.


77 posted on 09/04/2012 7:12:50 AM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Is there any contingency plan, that you know of or suspect, that would immediately disconnect service to all “welfare phones” as though the bill hadn’t been paid?

Since the government pays the bill for those phones, it would be simple for the government to tell the cell providers "please suspend service on these phones". They almost certainly have an automated way to do it, for phones belonging to people who cease being eligible for benefits.

The odds of it happening while Obama or his appointees remain in power? Nil.

78 posted on 09/04/2012 7:12:58 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Lazamataz
Everyone hates me. I think I’ll go eat worms.

Deep fried and crunchy, or sauteed in a little olive oil with some garlic and onions?

79 posted on 09/04/2012 7:13:34 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Travis McGee

ping


80 posted on 09/04/2012 7:14:25 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: JimRed

I often thought about just how are they going to get those blue targets in place. I know they can fly them into airports, but past that. Just how safe would anything blue be past the airport gate? Could they get far enough to establish control? I don’t think so. I think they would be hunkered down at those airports.


81 posted on 09/04/2012 7:14:34 AM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: Travis McGee

Over the past couple of years, I’ve noticed the Mods getting skittish about threads talking too deeply about “civil war” tactics. If it’s still up by noon, then it will probably stay up. (If it’s still up by noon, it will probably have grown to 400 comments, too)


82 posted on 09/04/2012 7:17:24 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Qwackertoo

According to family that was living in the area, this almost happened in Detroit in 1968.

The rioting got out as far as 6 Mile Road. At the city line at 8 Mile armed suburbanites were waiting.


83 posted on 09/04/2012 7:17:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Lazamataz

Just South of the Great White North. West of Murderapolis. You could river rat up the Mississippi and make it to my place easily.


84 posted on 09/04/2012 7:17:37 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Gilbo_3
...'ethnic' types who stand for FReedom and join the suburbian will be a great asset to us as well...

If we don't shoot them out of reflex when they approach us to combine forces. Look out for the false flags, like the Afghani police and military who pose as allies then turn on us.

85 posted on 09/04/2012 7:18:14 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
Some of us have been buying up shortwave, citizens band, and 20-mile "walkie talkie" devices.

Shutting down the iPhone only slows us down a bit...

86 posted on 09/04/2012 7:19:34 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: wayoverontheright
I think it will be extremely quiet.

You may have a point. With Barry's massive, out of control ego he may have convinced himself that he is so wonderfully indispensable that anyone sharing his skin color is going to rise up in anger to defend him.

Meanwhile they are more concerned with "How do I pay the light bill this month?" and "Nets or Lakers?"


87 posted on 09/04/2012 7:20:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Travis McGee

Ping


88 posted on 09/04/2012 7:21:17 AM PDT by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: CodeToad
No. Those phones are locally purchased without planning of any sort. Of course a list of those phones is available and they could one by one turn them off, but there isn’t a wholesale capability.

Maybe not at the moment, but it would not take long for the cell-provider's software people to create one.

Then again, I would think they would have an app to turn off all phones belonging to a specified bill payer, and the thing that the welfare phones have in common is that they have a single bill payer (the government entity administering the program).

89 posted on 09/04/2012 7:22:28 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Eye of Unk

And when they will march on the suburbs! Mommy and kids will be left at home while Metrosexual Dads run away.


90 posted on 09/04/2012 7:23:28 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Wealth = Net Worth Income = Net Work)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Or wins. Either way it is coming. The only question is when.


91 posted on 09/04/2012 7:23:37 AM PDT by sport
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To: Travis McGee

Well thought out. Certainly worth reading and sharing with as many patriots as you can.

I sent it to a couple of die hard libs I know who are in complete denial, just to pull their chains.


92 posted on 09/04/2012 7:23:40 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: buffaloguy; Travis McGee
I think it will be extremely quiet. Not enough rabblerousing going on at this time and I think everyone is just tired of the dreck coming out of DC.

While I agree with you, buffaloguy, I also disagree.

I agree that the Obamaloss will be met with (with a few minor exceptions) near silence.

But TM is talking about the collapse of the government-placation system. That WOULD result in near-universal rioting.

Do you know how the Soviet Union collapsed? It wasn't Yeltsin standing on the top of a tank after the tank shot at a building. It wasn't Lech Walesa, though I salute the man.

It was when the Soviet Union could no longer afford to pay its' people.

All the government workers just walked off the job. Police no longer policed. The military stopped moving. Not one government office was open.

THAT is how a system collapses.

93 posted on 09/04/2012 7:26:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Travis McGee
The ones who most need to consider these scenarios are the ones on the left.

My dearly beloved but liberal wife for one; I try to get her to read about the potential for disaster, but to her it's all "right wing propaganda".

Please God, don't make me have to say "I told you so"!

94 posted on 09/04/2012 7:26:50 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Travis McGee
And each jurisdiction will face potentially dozens of such scenes, thanks to the ability for MUYs to cross-communicate at will using their wireless devices.

Count on the authorities to shut down all mobile service.

95 posted on 09/04/2012 7:27:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: PapaBear3625
...I’ve noticed the Mods getting skittish about threads talking too deeply about “civil war” tactics.

Maybe they're concerned about tipping off the enemy.

96 posted on 09/04/2012 7:31:22 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; AnAmericanMother

AAM tells a similar story, IIRC involving vets with Garands holding the bridge over the Chattahoochie into Cobb Coubty during MLK riots.


97 posted on 09/04/2012 7:32:07 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Travis McGee

Ping


98 posted on 09/04/2012 7:38:31 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Lazamataz

As we know, that isn’t terribly hard to do.


99 posted on 09/04/2012 7:39:48 AM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo; Travis McGee
Pinging... the author?

That's like photocopying a mirror!

100 posted on 09/04/2012 7:42:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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