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Mormon Democrats gather for first-ever national meeting in Charlotte during DNC
NBC News ^ | 9/04/12

Posted on 09/04/2012 5:47:07 PM PDT by Libloather

Mormon Democrats gather for first-ever national meeting in Charlotte during DNC

Above, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who belongs to the LDS Church, speaks to the first national meeting of LDS Democrats on Tuesday in Charlotte. Reid mentioned that several presidential candidates in the United States have been Mormons, starting with Joseph Smith, the founder and first president of the LDS Church, who ran in 1844 with "a very progressive" platform.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012dncconvention; charlotte; convention; dnc; harryreid; ldschurch; mormon; mormons; mormonvote
(Shhhh. Don't let this get out...)
1 posted on 09/04/2012 5:47:09 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Such a diverse crowd. Media??? Crickets be a chirping.


2 posted on 09/04/2012 5:53:22 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Libloather

They ought to all be excommunicated. Mormonism is not about Marxism, I know I was born a Mormon and am getting ready to renounce the faith because they allow people like Reid to be members in good standing. There just isn’t any way that Reid could be called a “faithful Mormon” the way he behaves.
But then the Catholic leaders are hiding under their pulpits instead of excommunicating the likes of Biden and Pelousey!
I guess at the end of the day, “organized religions” are all just businesses, so money and power trump the truth and honesty.


3 posted on 09/04/2012 5:54:06 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Libloather

Woooo, and we keep hearing how conservative mormons are (not)!


4 posted on 09/04/2012 6:03:11 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: vette6387

Reid was awarded a “mormon of the year” award in 2009, by BYU and SLC lds and is a temple worthy mormon.

There is nothing in mormonism contrary to liberalism.


5 posted on 09/04/2012 6:06:26 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: vette6387
Reid made a visit to Pocatello to support the RAT/LDS candidate for mayor a few years back. I was not amused to see balloons and banners welcoming Reid to town on the LDS building nearest city hall. Puke. Lots of RATS and railroad union types around Pocatello. The area is 93% LDS. I'm careful about my choice of bumper stickers. RATS are given to keying the paint as a means of self expression.

When I was in Mira Mesa, we had standing rules that NO political discussions were to take place inside the LDS church buildings. They don't want any excuse for the government to attempt to remove their tax exempt status as a religious organization. Black (AME) churches get away with it on live TV with tripe like Jesse Jackson yammering from the pulpit. A double standard.

6 posted on 09/04/2012 6:10:15 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: svcw

Homosexual “marriage”?

Anti Israel?

Harry was the only speaker in either convention to serve as basis of a character in a Godfather movie.


7 posted on 09/04/2012 6:12:09 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: svcw
is a temple worthy mormon.

Any bishop who would sign his recommend should be embarrassed and immediately relieved of his calling.

8 posted on 09/04/2012 6:14:15 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Libloather

Moron Democrats? Must be a huge venue.


9 posted on 09/04/2012 6:18:19 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: svcw

Harry Reed gets 89% of the Mormon vote. I always wondered about that when I hear how conservative they are.


10 posted on 09/04/2012 6:48:07 PM PDT by brightright
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To: vette6387
I guess at the end of the day, “organized religions” are all just businesses, so money and power trump the truth and honesty.

We are experiencing the wheat and the tares having to grow up together. Don't renounce your faith because of Harry Reid. God has allowed us to grow beside them for a reason. We just don't know what that reason is yet.

We need to pray for the hand of God to act swiftly and to give us courage to do His will.

11 posted on 09/04/2012 6:50:02 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Libloather

Shouldn’t the headline have been “Moron Democrats gather for first-ever national meeting in Charlotte...”?


12 posted on 09/04/2012 6:55:25 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: brightright

Amazing isn’t it.


13 posted on 09/04/2012 6:58:17 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: TigerClaws

mormonism teaches that Israel will be resettled in Missouri, that they are the true chosen, and Jews are gentiles like everyone else.
Just start following what’s going on in SLC to find out about their opposition to homosexual marriage.


14 posted on 09/04/2012 7:10:20 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Myrddin
RATS are given to keying the paint as a means of self expression.

Good point. I live in a state that will go at least 55/45 for Romney and is not being contested. I have yet to see a Romney bumper-sticker but have seen dozens if not hundreds for the 0ccupant / _resident. Your observation explains why.

15 posted on 09/04/2012 7:16:14 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Myrddin

The Mormon Church was fined for not fully disclosing their contributions to the “ Marriage between 1 man and 1 woman” proposition” in California.


16 posted on 09/04/2012 7:48:50 PM PDT by brightright
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To: brightright

“Mormon Church” is a non sequitor.


17 posted on 09/04/2012 8:49:38 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: brightright
The story as related in the LA Times says it was a lawsuit over non-monetary valuation of the time of "church employees" supporting Prop 8. There are very few "church employees". We pay gardeners and janitors when we come up short of volunteers to do that work. People who work in the retail stores e.g. Deseret Industries and similar are employees. The gay activist must have had to look very hard to find $37,000 in non-monetary "labor" to squeeze that fine out of the gay favoring political practices commission.

I didn't see any evidence of similar prosecutions directed against the anti-prop 8 side of the equation. Surely there was substantial money spent there as well.

18 posted on 09/04/2012 11:04:16 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“Moron Democrats” is redundant.


19 posted on 09/04/2012 11:05:11 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: vette6387

BINGO!! WE HAVE A WINNER!!


20 posted on 09/04/2012 11:06:21 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Slyfox

You can have faith in God without being “organized”....


21 posted on 09/04/2012 11:09:22 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Myrddin
When the gay's start looking into the $40-$50 billion dollar commercial enterprise of LDS, Inc. Then you might have a problem....

$37k? Ha! Not even a tiny drip in the bucket.

22 posted on 09/04/2012 11:14:31 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Myrddin

The fine was for not disclosing these additional [donations]. The money the church donated was declared. The issue was employee time and supplies. This was not time or supplies that employees volunteered. I also worked and voted against Prop.8 so I have no problem with others doing so or your Churches support. But the facts are the Church was paying people to work on a political campaign.


23 posted on 09/04/2012 11:59:19 PM PDT by brightright
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To: Osage Orange
You can have faith in God without being “organized”....

Did I say you couldn't have faith without being organized?

No, I did not!

The guy was wondering if he should leave his religion because of the people in it who do not live up to the religion, and I encouraged him not to leave his faith because of the likes of Harry Reid.

Do not put words in my mouth.

24 posted on 09/05/2012 9:32:37 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Slyfox
My whole point was...you can leave your "religion" as you put it. But, you still or should still have your relationship with the Lord.

BTW...I wasn't placing "words in your mouth"...Ha!! Don't be so thin skinned.........

25 posted on 09/05/2012 9:51:09 AM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: brightright
The Church.

By that you mean LDS, Inc.

26 posted on 09/05/2012 9:54:09 AM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Osage Orange

Sorry if my use of The Church was offensive. It was not my intention. My comment was in response to post #6 . The LDS,Inc. was fined for not fully disclosing donations to a political campaign. They did disclose financial donations but did not declare that they payed people to work on the campaign and donated supplies. All the talk about maybe the other side did it too, and the size of the fine does not change the fact that the LDS,Inc. helped finance and did not fully disclose its involvement in a political campaign.


27 posted on 09/05/2012 10:55:45 AM PDT by brightright
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To: brightright
All the talk about maybe the other side did it too, and the size of the fine does not change the fact that the LDS,Inc. helped finance and did not fully disclose its involvement in a political campaign.

It certainly does expose the bias of the persons discussing the issue.

28 posted on 09/05/2012 11:23:50 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

You are correct about that. The Everybody does it, The Other guy is bad too, is usually used as a defense when there is no defense .


29 posted on 09/05/2012 11:50:19 AM PDT by brightright
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To: brightright

Not offensive at all. Just normal talk for mormons. Which I always think odd..but that’s just me.


30 posted on 09/05/2012 1:25:57 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Slyfox; Osage Orange; vette6387

If I were to leave a given religion, it would be because I found it wasn’t consistent with God’s word, not because some person professing the same faith was a disappointment, or because leaders of the religion were found to be human after all. We each will give account to God for our own faithfulness, not the faithfulness of others.

Having said that, nothing wrong with a little human organization, as long as you don’t take it too seriously. Jesus will keep track of his own sheep very effectively. But some organization is helpful for our sakes. But it doesn’t have to be a massive, centrally controlled bureaucracy. This is why the distributed network model is preferred among many of us so-called Protestants; a top down human hierarchy based on a history of formal membership wrapped around a centrally controlled “oracle” can create some degree of uniformity by sheer force of bureaucratic will power, but it is equally capable of propagating uniform error as uniform truth.

By contrast, a distributed model based on shared belief in and subscription to the Biblical text avoids the faux uniformity issues, but has the problem of individuals seeing things as individuals do, through their own unique prism of experience and understanding. But that’s really a net advantage, because it amounts to peer review, as in science, which is beneficial. Inferior interpretations and practices can be identified and weeded out, with no one human person or organization having the power to prevent discovery or proclamation of the truth.

So organization is only as bad as the people in it, and as we are all sinners, that can be pretty bad. Therefore smaller is better, because local congregations promote local accountability. We have to keep each other honest by comparing our beliefs and practices to God’s word, and that will work better if we don’t give any one human or group too much power. But what will work the best is simply this:

2 Tim 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Peace,

SR


31 posted on 09/05/2012 2:11:59 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Good post.


32 posted on 09/05/2012 2:45:27 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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