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Real Conservatives Can't Vote Romney/Ryan
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Posted on 09/05/2012 2:47:19 AM PDT by MacMattico

I love Free Republic. I enjoy posting and reading other peoples insights and ideas. But I'm troubled and confused by the fact that while we all post and read daily the horrible things that Barack Obama is doing to our great nation, we are encouraged to "sit this one out" or vote third party. I understand Mr. Robinson owns this site and agree with his views on probably most every subject. I appreciate the stand he has taken and how he has always been true to his beliefs. He has provided an outlet that is invaluable to the Conservative community.

We've been through one day of the Democratic convention and I'm terrified. Mitt Romney wasn't even my fifth choice, but, my God, what an Obama with no fear of running in another election will do with four more years is unfathomable. And he doesn't need Congress, the man rules by Executive Fiat. I don't want to live under Socialism, I don't want to have my church forced to act against its conscience, I don't want my guns taken away and my (limited) wealth redistributed. I was shocked when God was taken out of the Dems platform. They don't even try to hide their disdain for a higher power, just blatantly remove God from their entire belief system. Basically show their hand that they want Jerusalem taken away from Israel. I can't take it anymore! I hear how eloquent Michelle Obama's speech was and I want to be sick. All lies! My family contains many military members, mostly Marines, they are sickened by their CIC. We were brought up to respect the Office of the President, but I'm finding it harder and harder to do every day. My sister is out of work after 30 years at the same company, and she is in a deep depression. My elderly mother is in a nursing home and is still finding it hard to find a primary care doctor and Obamacare hasn't even fully kicked in!

I live in NY and could vote for Mickey Mouse and it would make no difference. But I just can't sit around and hope others will do what I won't and vote for Romney/Ryan. So, yes, I will admit to compromising some of my conservative principles in voting Romney/Ryan because I don't think we will survive as a nation with four more years of Obama. Ryan helps make that decision a little easier. And with all Romney's flip-flops, I still think he will help this country in ways Obama the in-over-his- head President never could. The stakes in this election are just to damn high.


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To Mr. Robinson, I mean no disrespect. I see people supporting the Romney/Ryan ticket on here although I know you said not to. This is just my opinion. I'm a Mom and worry about my children's future like never before. I read the articles posted here and don't understand how we can think not voting GOP will help. I hope I'm not kicked off the board, but I can't take Obama anymore.
1 posted on 09/05/2012 2:47:35 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

So, you’re going to vote for Obama?


2 posted on 09/05/2012 2:49:13 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: MacMattico; Jim Robinson

Letting you know what I posted and that even if I’m banned, I appreciate all you’ve done.


3 posted on 09/05/2012 2:49:46 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

Dear Leader thanks you for your support.

Good work comrade.


4 posted on 09/05/2012 2:50:14 AM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: mazda77
Nope, just trying to get the attention of people who believe we can't be Conservative and vote R&R and understand why I should through either negative action (voting third party) or inaction (sitting this one out) help Obama win. I am voting for Romney/Ryan. Did you read what I wrote?
5 posted on 09/05/2012 2:58:32 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: rwilson99

Don’t just read titles!


6 posted on 09/05/2012 2:59:41 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico
I guess you missed this thread:

Obama the capitalism-hating, liberty-hating, America-hating Marxist must be destroyed!!

7 posted on 09/05/2012 3:02:28 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: MacMattico
They can, however, vote for Ryan...Romney who?

I voted for Sarah Palin in 2008—it's not my fault whatsis face had to attach his RINO butt to HER ticket:)

8 posted on 09/05/2012 3:03:06 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Who needs Michelle? The MSM keep Obama satisfied.")
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To: MacMattico

Great post! Thank you!!! I will not sit this one out and allow O to win. My vote will count!!!


9 posted on 09/05/2012 3:06:12 AM PDT by jokemoke
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To: MacMattico
Don't agonize over it. The choice is simple. We need to vote out the party that is determined to turn America into a godless, communist state that will turn most of us into peasants.

Once Obama and his ilk are defeated, we can work on finding more perfect candidates in future elections.

10 posted on 09/05/2012 3:06:54 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: MacMattico

Sitting out this election = a vote for obama. Romney may not be our ideal candidate but I do believe that he loves his country. This is an election that we cannot afford to lose.


11 posted on 09/05/2012 3:07:45 AM PDT by fellowpatriot
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To: Admin Moderator

Thanks, Admin. I hadn’t seen that thread. Thanks, Jim, for making the statement.


12 posted on 09/05/2012 3:09:14 AM PDT by abclily
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To: mazda77

Did you seriously post after just reading the title? lol!


13 posted on 09/05/2012 3:12:46 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Admin Moderator

I missed it! Thanks for the link! I was hoping JR would see the light! :)


14 posted on 09/05/2012 3:14:58 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: MacMattico

I say go ahead and vote your conscious. I don’t think your vote is going to matter.


15 posted on 09/05/2012 3:15:21 AM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: MacMattico

Why the vanity? You are just repeating what is said by members on this board 100 times a day. Some of us aren’t so passive with our opinions of those who are going to sit at home because of the rotten choice of candidates who ran in the primary. Lady, you are just preaching to the choir. You aren’t special in your situation or opinion.

Most of us love this board and are very grateful for it’s existence and the hard work that goes into it by Jim Rob, but I think he gets it. We have no choice but Romney. We have nothing to apologize for or to justify. It is what it is.

R&R 2012!


16 posted on 09/05/2012 3:15:28 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Admin Moderator

How the heck did I miss that? It’s true?! I feel better already!


17 posted on 09/05/2012 3:16:27 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: All

Do any of you people bother to read posts or do you just love knee jerk reactions based on titles? As Mr. Hand said in Fast Times at Ridgemont High “Are you people on dope?” Read, read, read!!!


18 posted on 09/05/2012 3:17:01 AM PDT by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, the only cure for the RINO virus.)
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To: SamAdams76

We need to vote out the party that is determined to turn America into a godless, communist state that will turn most of us into peasants.

So you favor a third party? You’re right. Romney will continue the decline of America and will further trash our constitution but, not nearly as much as the Marxist Kenyan we now have. Voting against Obama will be the most fun I’ll have this year and for most of us, voting for the GOP ticket will be the most effective way to do that. For conservatives in solidly red or blue states, a third party vote isn’t going to hurt our chances of getting rid of Obama.


19 posted on 09/05/2012 3:17:27 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: MacMattico

Everything you said is 100% correct and reflects the views of many frustrated FReepers.

Thank you.


20 posted on 09/05/2012 3:17:35 AM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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To: MacMattico; Jim Robinson; All
Good news Mom, JimRob adopted your position (albeit with reluctance because Romney was never any conservative's first choice) back on August 20th, this is what he had to say:

Obama the capitalism-hating, liberty-hating, America-hating Marxist must be destroyed!!
Aug 20, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on Monday, August 20, 2012 9:14:29 AM by Jim Robinson

Obama the capitalism-hating, liberty-hating, America-hating, godless Marxist/communist must be completely destroyed politically!! To allow him another term in the presidency would be to allow the total destruction of America.

As much as I detest what the Republican party has become, there is no other party on this earth that can come anywhere close to accomplishing what must be accomplished to keep America from spiraling down a Marxist/communist toilet.

Obama and his Marxist government must not only be defeated, they must be crushed and totally destroyed!! We must pray that God Almighty Himself moves Heaven and Earth to rid our government of this unholy, filthy, communist scum that has infested the democrat party, our government and our society!! And we know that God will not do that. He leaves these earthly tasks to us. It's OUR country and if we wish to keep it, we must move the mountains ourselves and do whatever it takes with whomever we have to get the job done!!

America will NOT go down without a fight!! Free Republic will not standby and do nothing while Obama destroys everything we hold dear!!

Damn Romney and his RINO history! Damn the GOPe for making this fight twice as hard as it should be! ANY Republican with a halfway decent record would crush Obama like the vermin he is. Well by God, if it has to be Romney, that SOB better grow a pair and he'd better get his butt in gear and fight like there's no tomorrow, because there's not!! This is do or die time!! And Rove had better turn out to be at least half as smart as he thinks he is. He engineered it. Now by golly, make it HAPPEN!! And our friends Hannity, Coulter, Rush, Levin, et al, had better start cranking it up another notch. The tea party is ready to rumble. The tea party sweeps of 2010 was just a warm-up for the tea party flood of 2012 that's going to wash America clean of godless communist/unionist scum from sea to shining sea.

We are going to send that paper hanging SOB packing and then we're going to rip out all his Marxist B/S by the roots and fumigate the ground so it can never grow again!!

All Republicans, independents, grassroots conservatives, tea party members, moderates, Reagan democrats, Christians, Jews, life, family, liberty, decency-loving patriots of any stripe must work like the blazes for the next couple of months and then turnout on election day and drag their friends, relatives and co-workers to the polls to vote that communist bastard and as many godless, liberty-hating, capitalism-hating, God-hating, liberal progressive, corrupt Marxist communists bastards the hell OUT as is humanly possible!!

We'll deal with Romney and the RINOS later.
[emphasis mine, mkj]

Let the wailing and weeping commence. I've spent the last sleepless night over this miserable situation that I'm going to spend. I love America, Life and Liberty too much to let it fail.

Praying with all my might that this is in accordance to God's will and plan. God works in mysterious ways.
May God bless and save America.
All Glory be to God.
In Jesus name we pray.
Amen.

Make it happen.


So you don't have to worry about being banned in my opinion, because we all realize that we have one shot and one shot only to throw that filthy Communist Kenyan out of OUR White House, and voting Romney & Ryan is it.

JimRob has not compromised his conservative principles one iota, what he has done is put everything on the line for the good of our Nation, he is focusing on our immediate enemy who is hellbent on destroying what's left of our Republic, and as he said above "we'll deal with Romney and the RINOs later".

And I might suggest having the mods edit your title to 'Real Conservatives Can't MUST Vote Romney/Ryan'. I think you unintentionally are sending out two messages here.
21 posted on 09/05/2012 3:18:42 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: SamAdams76

This is my position, in general.

Fight for the best candidate possible, but vote the best available.

In time, you’ll end up with both.


22 posted on 09/05/2012 3:19:57 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thanks for the URL while I was copying and pasting Mr. Mod, if you want to delete my post #21 which is now redundant, feel free.


23 posted on 09/05/2012 3:20:18 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: Son House
I say go ahead and vote your conscious. I don’t think your vote is going to matter.

As opposed to voters who vote unconscious. ;)
24 posted on 09/05/2012 3:22:00 AM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: mkjessup

We’ll leave ‘em both up, thanks!


25 posted on 09/05/2012 3:22:44 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: submarinerswife
I never said I was special in my situation, just reached my head exploding point after that Michelle Obama speech. There are many people here that will still not vote for Romney. I missed Jim Robinson's post where he said we must. Sorry if you don't like it.
26 posted on 09/05/2012 3:24:36 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

I agree, with a little twist. I will vote Romney/Ryan but have NO hope that anything will change. The government will continue to grow, we will continue to accumulate enormous debt and we will crepe ever closer to that cliff. Bush had a republican house and senate, and in the days after 911 the nation was a united as I have never seen it before. The closets in the White House were stuffed with political capital just waiting for constructive use. What did we do? We spent it all on abortion and anti-gay crap. We wasted a perfect opportunity to restructure/reduce the federal government on ideological junk. So I have no hope that a future republican congress and white house will be any different. We are too focused on getting BO out that we are not pushing the candidates to do anything more than win.


27 posted on 09/05/2012 3:26:04 AM PDT by vet7279
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To: MacMattico

I’m on board with everything you said. With one difference. One day into their convention, I’m not terrified, I’m more determined than ever. the last four years have been the worst of my life. My friends tell me I read too much, watch too much news, have become a polticial junkie, etc. I admit it. After the 2008 election, I was so depressed that I even started smoking again after nearly 4 years. I want to quit badly...but until this regime is ousted, my nerves will not permit it. Romney wasn’t my choice either but I’m voting for him. His first executive decision to bring Paul Ryan on board sealed it for me. And I have concluded that the man has a love of family and a charitable heart. I think he wants to do the right thing but is going to need a lot of help and guidance to pull him in the right directions. I’m willing to live with that. The alternative is unthinkable for me.

I wish you well.


28 posted on 09/05/2012 3:28:48 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: rwilson99

That’s unfair


29 posted on 09/05/2012 3:29:27 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: MacMattico

Idiot! I cast a vote once for Mickey Mouse - Carter won that election.


30 posted on 09/05/2012 3:33:14 AM PDT by gotribe
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To: MacMattico

After reading your post, it appears you need the mods to rewrite your headline.


31 posted on 09/05/2012 3:33:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: MacMattico
I don't think you can judge whether a person is a “Real Conservative” by their vote for or against Romney.

I don't vote for liberals period, therefore I wont vote for Romney.

I understand others point of view in voting for Romney but I don't and cant share it.

32 posted on 09/05/2012 3:33:54 AM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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To: mazda77
Libtard goes verbal ,,,, I suppose you're better off today than 4 years ago . . Socialism/Communism is merely the EQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF MISERY . 0bama is a one world communist you can have him ,,, take him with you when you leave . There are plenty of failing soc/com countries in the world ,,, go there and live a life of despair
33 posted on 09/05/2012 3:34:17 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: MacMattico
Agree, I'm a

A-B-O voter


34 posted on 09/05/2012 3:34:21 AM PDT by thingumbob (I'm a bitter clinger...I dare you to take my gun)
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To: MacMattico

Worst. Title. Ever!

I was going to jump on the bandwagon and yell at you like everyone else. Fortunately, I stopped to read your article. I agree with you. Romney isn’t even my fifth choice either, but compared to the communist Obama, he is the far better choice. And I live in Florida where my vote can make the difference.

I was watching just a few minutes of Moochelle last night and she was terrifying as she talked about her long-suffering father who had to work and was so proud for sending her to college, even though loans and grants paid for almost all of it. He only contributed a tiny amount, but that was a source of “pride” for him because that’s all he could afford.

From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs. That’s their measure of success. Chip in a little and let the taxpayers pick up the rest of the tab. I only watched 3 minutes of the Communist National Convention and this was what I heard. I hate to think of what the other 3 hours was like. More of the same, I’m sure.


35 posted on 09/05/2012 3:39:02 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: MacMattico
Sorry if you don't like it.

If I don't like what? Your post? Like I said, you are too late. We all know that Romney is our only chance.After watching Aunt Esther's speech last night, you must be a little dizzy.

Why would you put yourself through that without getting paid? Yesterday, on his show, Glenn Beck was offering anyone who would take it, $500 to watch "the" speech because he couldn't.

36 posted on 09/05/2012 3:39:41 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: MacMattico

I’ve struggled with this issue a lot. Mitt is a liberal who has supported abortion, gun control, gays, Romneycare, etc. I don’t believe a word he says and think that he is a Republican version of Bill Clinton or John Edwards. He’ll say whatever it takes to get elected and seems to have no core convictions. I like Ryan enough.

Despite the fact that I despise Romney and find him the worst candidate we’ve ever run I think Obama is dangerous enough that I have to support Romney. I think the best course of action is for me to vote for Romney because I live in a swing state. If I did not live in a swing state i’d feel free to vote my convictions and would do so.


37 posted on 09/05/2012 3:40:47 AM PDT by Woodsman27
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To: Bryanw92

Got your attention, didn’t it? ;)


38 posted on 09/05/2012 3:40:53 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico

OK, so they’re voting for Obama? We know that and a quick scan of your post looked to be the same in a different wrapper.


39 posted on 09/05/2012 3:40:58 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: submarinerswife

No, there are many people here that won’t vote for R&R.

I watch the DNC as much as I can stand, as in “know thy enemy”. But I’m going to have to cut back to save my sanity.


40 posted on 09/05/2012 3:45:09 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: MacMattico
..what an Obama with no fear of running in another election will do with four more years is unfathomable..

You're assuming that under Obama there will elections in the immediate future.

41 posted on 09/05/2012 3:45:26 AM PDT by monocle (Some polls are desi)
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To: submarinerswife

I agree with you, 100%. The barbarians are not at the gate, they have breached the gate. This election pose a stark choice between the life and death of the USA. It aint beanbag this time. The freak show in Charlotte should suffice as the call to arms, general quarters, for all here and across America who love this country. We cannot fail - we will not fail - on defeating the left and terminating the presidency of Obama.


42 posted on 09/05/2012 3:46:00 AM PDT by astounded (Barack Obama is a clear and present danger to the USA)
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To: MacMattico

Real conservatives vote out Marxists, and vote in conservatives IF they can.

There is no such thing as the perfect conservative candidate. At most, we can feel good about supporting someone like a Senate candidate who is 80% there versus some weird Dem who can’t even rank on the conservative scale.

I take an extremely pragmatic approach when it comes to Romney. I think he’ll be better for the fiscal conservative in all of us than the social. He’ll want a second term, so he can’t piss us off too badly. The greatest security I have for him was reading his plan in detail and investigating who his advisers are. That warmed me a bit to him and then the convention sealed the deal. I am not holding my nose in the slightest, although I didn’t caucus for him.

But that was for my general election vote in a battleground state. I’m downright campaigning for Romney because of Obama, not in spite of him. And Romney wants to win. We got so burned with McCain in a similar situation that I think people don’t or refuse to see the differences.

There is no conspiracy: the process decently works (except primaries need to be closed) and Republicans voted for the candidate they felt was able to beat Obama and hopefully closely aligns with the Republican platform. Congress is and always will be the focus — because if we don’t have that, then we don’t have squat. We have to build from the ground up, and this first session under Romney instead of Obama is going to test them all.

The fact that you felt like you were going to get banned for posting that saddens me. It should not be like that.


43 posted on 09/05/2012 3:47:46 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: MacMattico
Real Conservatives Can't Vote Romney/Ryan

HUH?

Can you help me out here, I'm confooozed!

Almost skipped reading your comments based upon caption.

Can I suggest you ask mods to "correct it," and add something like "Real Conservatives can not, NOT vote for Romney/Ryan?"

44 posted on 09/05/2012 3:49:05 AM PDT by neveralib
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To: Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson

Thanks, Mod.

I somehow missed this thread. If FReepers can unite against Communism we can win this battle for America.

Jim made a tough decision, but it is the only way we can send the zero down in flames. Like he said, we can deal with Romney later.

I, along with many other long-time FReepers will be holding our nose and pulling the lever for the RINO Romney.

Thanks again.......panax


45 posted on 09/05/2012 3:49:43 AM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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To: Happy Rain
"I voted for Sarah Palin in 2008—it's not my fault whatsis face had to attach his RINO butt to HER ticket:)"

Ditto.
I'm all-in for RYAN.

46 posted on 09/05/2012 3:53:02 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: rwilson99; MacMattico; mazda77
MacMattico --> your thread's title is wrongly worded. It sounds like you don't want anyone to vote for the romney/Ryan ticket.

wilson, mazda --> mac is saying that as much as she dislike Romney, she dislike Obama more and that's the reason she would vote Romney/Ryan

47 posted on 09/05/2012 3:53:25 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: mazda77
No, they say they're voting Virgil Goode so we can lose VA or Gary Johnson or sitting it out. The attention grabbing title was to confront this idea head on. I consider myself a Conservative but have been called a RINO for my support of ABO from the start.
48 posted on 09/05/2012 3:53:31 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Cronos; Admin Moderator

It also tells me who only reads titles and not entire posts before posting! If a Mod wants to change the title, feel free.


49 posted on 09/05/2012 3:57:37 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: freedomfiter2

“...a third party vote isn’t going to hurt our chances of getting rid of Obama.”

Why risk anything? When your liberty and the very lifeblood of our country as it was founded, is at stake. When your children and grandchildren’s future is at stake, what in the hell is the point to vote third party? To make some kind of stupid statement that no one cares about? A wasted vote doesn’t do a single thing, not one damn thing, to make a difference in saving this nation.

Americans should send a message load and clear with a popular vote that is completely overwhelming. Obama and his minions, along with their socialist, communist or marxist theology needs to be completely and utterly destroyed. Romney and Ryan aren’t perfect, but by God, they’re all we have as an alternative. I don’t mean to be offensive, but a third party vote, no matter where you are, is idiocy.

If one chooses to join the battle to fight with his fellow patriots, why choose to fire only blanks?


50 posted on 09/05/2012 3:59:40 AM PDT by Smnz (Imagine: Obama and Holder on trial for murder - in Mexico..)
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