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CU-Boulder faculty expresses fear over lifting of campus gun ban
Boulder Daily Camera ^ | Sept. 4, 2012 | Mitchell Byars

Posted on 09/05/2012 4:34:15 AM PDT by Second Amendment First

Citing concerns for their safety, University of Colorado faculty members were vocal Tuesday in their opposition of the Colorado Supreme Court's ruling earlier this year to overturn CU's campus gun ban

Chancellor Phil DiStefano, Provost Russell Moore, CU attorney John Sleeman and CU police Cmdr. Robert Axmacher were on hand at a town hall-style meeting Tuesday to try and address the concerns of faculty members, many of whom were deeply disturbed by the fact students could now carry weapons into their lecture halls.

"I don't want to be surrounded by someone who's armed," said Paul Levitt, an English professor at CU. Levitt said that part of teaching sometimes involves intense debate and disappointed students, and he didn't want the threat of armed students impacting the way he teaches his class.

"Some classes are taught aggressively; some are taught passively," he said. "My approach to teaching is to challenge the students, and they don't always take too kindly to that."

The state Supreme Court ruled in March that CU cannot ban concealed-carry permit holders from bringing guns onto campus.

One of the primary concerns from the faculty on Tuesday was that Colorado law protects the identify of people who have concealed-carry permits, making it impossible for professors to know which students may legally have a weapon in the classroom. Permit holders do not have to reveal if they have a permit unless asked by a law enforcement officer.

Several professors asked what they should do if they saw a weapon on a student but were unable to determine if it was permitted or not.

Axmacher said that a faculty member in that situation could call 911 and have police respond. But he warned that teachers need to be careful about how they handle those situations.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycamera.com ...


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The libs love big government with lots of laws, but let there be one law passed that they don't like and they're screaming bloody murder.

They always seem to forget that when their beloved police state arrives that the intellectuals will be among the first ones cleansed.

1 posted on 09/05/2012 4:34:25 AM PDT by Second Amendment First
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I would ask the staff who (note who, not what) it is that they are afraid of. A unhinged student, angry coworker, random jerk of the street? Then run this little thought experiment... Would such a person be stopped by one of their cute little signs banning firearms?

Oh, since this is CU Boulder how about this. Since you're always talking about this freedom and that right... Why are you, yes you CU Boulder trampling on others' rights?

2 posted on 09/05/2012 4:43:46 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Second Amendment First
right because a nut job with a gun, out to wreak havoc upon the population there, will see the no guns allowed sign and leave their guns at home.


3 posted on 09/05/2012 4:45:43 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Second Amendment First

I feel the least safe in places with gun bans or no CCW reciprocal policies.

There is a difference between challenging students and antagonizing them. Apparently this professor doesn’t know the difference.


4 posted on 09/05/2012 4:46:34 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: Second Amendment First

When you strip away all of the shining rhetoric, the truth remains that the overriding dominant driver of Totatlitarian Elites is fear of the masses....


5 posted on 09/05/2012 4:48:38 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Second Amendment First

I had a shotgun in my closet all the time I was in college but until this moment, it never occurred to me that I could, in fact maybe should, shoot my English teacher.


6 posted on 09/05/2012 4:48:53 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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That and they do not trust themselves to handle guns properly.


7 posted on 09/05/2012 4:54:32 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Second Amendment First

I would change one sentence.

From “...faculty members, many of whom were deeply disturbed...”, to

“...faculty members, many of whom ARE deeply disturbed...”


8 posted on 09/05/2012 5:01:13 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: sickoflibs; NFHale; stephenjohnbanker
why doesnt it take all of about 10 seconds to explain to these enlightened brainiacks that a percentage of their students have and always will be armed, law or no law ???

and since they obviously are too stoopit to realize this on their own, they obviously should have their licenses yanked until they can figgure it out...

9 posted on 09/05/2012 5:07:27 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Second Amendment First

A little fear in the elites is a good thing.


10 posted on 09/05/2012 5:18:45 AM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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"I don't want to be surrounded by someone who's armed," said Paul Levitt, an English professor at CU. (snip)

"Some classes are taught aggressively; some are taught passively," he said. "My approach to teaching is to challenge the students, and they don't always take too kindly to that."

Levitt's imprecise command of the spoken language ("surrounded" by one armed person?) makes me further question how one "challenges" students in a college English class. Given the general lack of spelling and grammar skills shown by the college age group, does he place himself in mortal danger by being a spelling/grammar Nazi? Are there impassioned debates about whether Shakespeare really existed and wrote his works or was it Roger Bacon? Does the inability to develop a thesis statement in a composition make him confrontational with the freshmen? Many academics have no grasp of what true freedom really means when applied as envisioned by the founders.

11 posted on 09/05/2012 5:36:49 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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And I don’t want to be surrounded by panty-wetting,tenured, Marxists. But if you go to college, odds are you will be.


12 posted on 09/05/2012 5:40:53 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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“Some classes are taught aggressively; some are taught passively,” he said. “My approach to teaching is to challenge the students, and they don’t always take too kindly to that.”

Meaning that she attempts to brainwash students and is suddenly afraid due to a guilty conscience of what might happen to her.


13 posted on 09/05/2012 5:40:53 AM PDT by winner3000
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She should get a CCW and try to jump through all the hoops we have to.

Or anger management classes.


14 posted on 09/05/2012 5:45:57 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative. REJECT THEN STOP SOCIALISM THIS NOV!)
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To: TurboZamboni

“I don’t want to be surrounded by someone who’s armed,” said Paul Levitt, an English professor at CU.
Ummm, surrounded by one person? And you’re an English Professor? Hmmm...


15 posted on 09/05/2012 5:53:49 AM PDT by Freedom4Life (The 2nd Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others.)
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To: Second Amendment First

Only faculty members that have ulterior motives need be worried.


16 posted on 09/05/2012 6:16:56 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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Well, if all you august and indispensable professor are so worried, then you are free to find other employment elsewhere. Oh, wait, you don't want to give up your tenured slot. Then stop acting like spoiled 12-year olds and get over it. Actually, if a CCW licensee is in your class, you should be PAYING them for armed security.
17 posted on 09/05/2012 6:47:15 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Second Amendment First

Cowards. Sissified cowards.


18 posted on 09/05/2012 6:56:33 AM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: Second Amendment First

People who object to weapons aren’t abolishing violence, they’re begging for rule by brute force, when the biggest, strongest animals among men were always automatically ‘right’. Guns ended that, and social democracy is a hollow farce without an armed populace to make it work.


19 posted on 09/05/2012 7:28:35 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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"I had a shotgun in my closet all the time I was in college but until this moment, it never occurred to me that I could, in fact maybe should, shoot my English teacher."

Why? For failing to teach you the proper rules of punctuation?

20 posted on 09/05/2012 7:47:07 AM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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