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Bob Woodward Book: Debt Deal Collapse Led to 'Pure Fury' From President Obama (Drudge)
ABC News ^ | September 5, 2012 | RICK KLEIN

Posted on 09/05/2012 7:11:40 PM PDT by Hojczyk

An explosive mix of dysfunction, miscommunication, and misunderstandings inside and outside the White House led to the collapse of a historic spending and debt deal that President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner were on the verge of reaching last summer, according to revelations in author Bob Woodward's latest book.

The book, "The Price of Politics," on sale Sept. 11, 2012, shows how close the president and the House speaker were to defying Washington odds and establishing a spending framework that included both new revenues and major changes to long-sacred entitlement programs.

But at a critical juncture, with an agreement tantalizingly close, Obama pressed Boehner for additional taxes as part of a final deal – a miscalculation, in retrospect, given how far the House speaker felt he'd already gone.

The president called three times to speak with Boehner about his latest offer, according to Woodward. But the speaker didn't return the president's phone call for most of an agonizing day, in what Woodward calls a "monumental communications lapse" between two of the most powerful men in the country.

When Boehner finally did call back, he jettisoned the entire deal. Obama lost his famous cool, according to Woodward, with a "flash of pure fury" coming from the president; one staffer in the room said Obama gripped the phone so tightly he thought he would break it.

"He was spewing coals," Boehner told Woodward, in what is described as a borderline "presidential tirade."

"He was pissed…. He wasn't going to get a damn dime more out of me. He knew how far out on a limb I was. But he was hot. It was clear to me that coming to an agreement with him was not going to happen, and that I had to go to Plan B."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bobwoodward; boehner; debtdeal; nationaldebt; obama
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1 posted on 09/05/2012 7:11:44 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

given how far the House speaker felt he’d already gone.

He was going to sell us out...OBAMA saved us I guess???


2 posted on 09/05/2012 7:14:11 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: STARWISE; penelopesire; hoosiermama; onyx; sf4dubya

FYI for later tonight or in the morning..

I read this whole article- it is remarkable...now Obama is going to have Romney, Ryan AND Bob Woodward living inside his head :)


3 posted on 09/05/2012 7:15:27 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Hojczyk
I don't believe a word of it. Woodward mostly writes political fiction.
4 posted on 09/05/2012 7:15:37 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Hojczyk
Bam_UncSam5
5 posted on 09/05/2012 7:15:39 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Hojczyk

Almost sounds like a Yassir Arafat deal.


6 posted on 09/05/2012 7:15:51 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Hojczyk

Obama acted Stupidly.


7 posted on 09/05/2012 7:17:12 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Hojczyk

If there’s any truth in this tale, I imagine that weak-spined Boner offered to give Obama 99% of what he wanted, but The One naturally wouldn’t settle for anything less than 100%.


8 posted on 09/05/2012 7:18:28 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Hojczyk

No link?


9 posted on 09/05/2012 7:18:29 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Hojczyk

Hard to say. Boner did not call him back even though Odumbo tried to call him 3 times, based on this article.

But anytime odumbo gets mad and doesn’t get his way, I get a tingle up my leg.


10 posted on 09/05/2012 7:18:55 PM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Hojczyk

Did you expect Boehner wasn’t going to sell us out? Of course he was, he’s Republican leadership.


11 posted on 09/05/2012 7:19:12 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: SE Mom; All

Thanks for the ping. Here s the link for those interested:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bob-woodward-book-debt-deal-collapse-led-pure/t/story?id=17104635


12 posted on 09/05/2012 7:21:37 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Hojczyk


13 posted on 09/05/2012 7:23:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Hojczyk

——”He was pissed…. He wasn’t going to get a damn dime more out of me. He knew how far out on a limb I was. But he was hot. It was clear to me that coming to an agreement with him was not going to happen, and that I had to go to Plan B.”——

Translation: Obama thought he could intimidate Bonher to get more taxes and when he couldn’t, Obama threw a hussy fit and Bonher told Obama to ( Clint implied it )


14 posted on 09/05/2012 7:23:59 PM PDT by Popman (In a place you only dream of Where your soul is always free)
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To: Hojczyk

“Obama phoned in to deliver a “high-minded message,” he writes. Obama went on so long that Pelosi “reached over and pressed the mute button on her phone,” so they could continue to work without the president hearing that they weren’t paying attention.

As debt negotiations progressed, Democrats complained of being out of the loop, not knowing where the White House stood on major points. Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., the ranking Democrat on the House Budget Committee, is described as having a “growing feeling of incredulity” as negotiations meandered.

“The administration didn’t seem to have a strategy. It was unbelievable. There didn’t seem to be any core principles,” Woodward writes in describing Van Hollen’s thinking. “

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bob-woodward-book-debt-deal-collapse-led-pure/story?id=17104635&page=3#.UEgI3aPAEtU

LMAO.....


15 posted on 09/05/2012 7:25:35 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Hojczyk

Zero is probably a pretty risky meet in a dark alley.

Exactly the same mindset as Yasser Arafat, exactly as murderous, and probably just as homosexual.


16 posted on 09/05/2012 7:25:35 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Chode

I’ve always wondered about that picture .Did it actually happen, or was it photo-shopped?


17 posted on 09/05/2012 7:27:15 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: SE Mom

just finished- as if you needed more proof it just further shows what an arrogant, narcissistic, POS obama is....


18 posted on 09/05/2012 7:28:50 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Orange1998

Walk stupidly and carry a big stick.


19 posted on 09/05/2012 7:28:55 PM PDT by youngidiot (The name's Bond. James Bond. James Bond Jovi.)
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To: Exit148
i know what you mean, but i gotta tell ya, it sure LOOKS real...
20 posted on 09/05/2012 7:32:58 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Hojczyk

21 posted on 09/05/2012 7:32:58 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Bowles, Simpson scoff at 1.6% budget cuts

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/07/video-bowles-simpson-scoff-at-1-6-budget-cuts/

Obama skips debt commission meeting (Dec. 2010)

WASHINGTON (CNN) - President Obama did not attend a White House meeting Thursday with members of his own debt commission, irking some of the Democrats on the panel who were expecting a high-level push from the commander-in-chief to show that its comprehensive deficit reduction plan is being taken seriously by the White House.

“He should have at least dropped by,” one Democratic member of the debt commission told CNN, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he wanted to speak more freely about the panel’s private meeting.

A second senior Democratic aide close to the panel added that commission members were miffed and privately believe the President did not attend because it would have been awkward “given the fact that he has just endorsed $900 billion in deficit spending” with the tax cut deal.

http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2010/12/09/obama-skips-debt-commission-meeting/

yeah, he cares.

Why have a deficit commission if you ignore them?


22 posted on 09/05/2012 7:35:00 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Exit148

That was from Jay Leno’s show


23 posted on 09/05/2012 7:38:01 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Cicero

That is how I see it. Boehner is shameful.


24 posted on 09/05/2012 7:38:28 PM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: Hojczyk

Shades of Arafat, Ehud Barak, and Clinton on peace deal. Remember Arafat had way more than envisioned but wanted more still. Typical for power hungry madmen.


25 posted on 09/05/2012 7:38:37 PM PDT by taterjay
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To: God luvs America
“The administration didn’t seem to have a strategy. It was unbelievable. There didn’t seem to be any core principles,” Woodward writes in describing Van Hollen’s thinking."

So...the secret is out.

26 posted on 09/05/2012 7:40:36 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: Hojczyk

“But at a critical juncture, with an agreement tantalizingly close, Obama pressed Boehner for additional taxes as part of a final deal – just as his masters HARRY REID and NANCY PELOSI told him to LOL!

From then on Boehner dealt with the people in charge- HARRY REID and NANCY PELOSI. Dealing with Obama was a waste of time. There was no way Obama could or would do anything but what his masters told him to do.

Woodward knows Harry and Nancy pulled the strings in Obama’s term. An ‘empty chair’ indeed.


27 posted on 09/05/2012 7:40:55 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Hardraade

I’ll bet the little faggot swings a pretty mean purse.


28 posted on 09/05/2012 7:41:10 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Fight organized crime. Vote out all incumbent Democrats!)
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To: Hojczyk

” - - - But after the breakthrough agreement fell apart, Boehner’s “Plan B” would ultimately exclude the president from most of the key negotiations. The president was “voted off the island,” in Woodward’s phrase, even by members of his own party, as congressional leaders patched together an eleventh hour framework to avoid default.”

Looks like Woodward thinks that Obama has become irrelevant.

Well, except for the golf course staff, of course!


29 posted on 09/05/2012 7:41:18 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Thanks. It looked real and it was real — but just for the comedy of it. (But I bet he really feels that way!!)


30 posted on 09/05/2012 7:45:54 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: SE Mom; onyx

Thanks very much for the ping and I will read in the morning!

Pinging myself so I will remember.

:)


31 posted on 09/05/2012 7:46:19 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: tumblindice
Now somebody needs to animate that face with the "That's racist" image...


32 posted on 09/05/2012 7:47:05 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: taterjay
Remember Arafat had way more than envisioned but wanted more still.

Yeah. He wanted Farney Brank on a dog collar. But that's where Clinton drew the line.


33 posted on 09/05/2012 7:48:32 PM PDT by lbryce (BHO-"Now, I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds" by way of Oppenheimer at Trinity, NM)
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To: Hojczyk

A tax hike to far.


34 posted on 09/05/2012 7:50:20 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: Hojczyk

Boy, reading this article really paints Obama as a fool who doesn’t know how to negotiate in good faith.


35 posted on 09/05/2012 7:52:54 PM PDT by goodolemr
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To: Hojczyk

Someone needs to inform the boy president that he temporarily represents ONE and only one branch of the federal government. He’s not a king. He gets a phone call when he gets a phone call.


36 posted on 09/05/2012 7:54:14 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: hinckley buzzard
I don't believe a word of it. Woodward mostly writes political fiction.

Roger that. The aide saying that Obama was gripping the phone so tightly he thought it might break??? You can ascertain that visually? I just don't think it's true.

Woodward's whole career is based on lies.

37 posted on 09/05/2012 7:54:36 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I don’t doubt that people in the White Hut told Woodward some of this, but I suspect it was mostly lies thought to make him appear engaged and tough. I believe the truth is he is neither engaged nor tough.


38 posted on 09/05/2012 8:03:22 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Hojczyk

Barack had a tantrum and Boehner caved.


39 posted on 09/05/2012 8:05:53 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sounds like someone still doing blow. Bad very bad


40 posted on 09/05/2012 8:15:05 PM PDT by magua
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To: God luvs America

In a funny day of dem implosions, the quote about Nancy P. pressing the mute button is about the best thing I have heard. Would have loved to have a video of it!


41 posted on 09/05/2012 8:15:44 PM PDT by Rutabega (If you don't want me in your personal affairs, don't stick your hand out for my help.)
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To: Exit148

Would do you mind expanding on your reference? What is significant about the picture?


42 posted on 09/05/2012 8:19:28 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: Mears

bfl


43 posted on 09/05/2012 8:23:44 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Hojczyk

No matter what you think of Boehner - after reading this, from a partisan inclined to support Democratic administrations, you can’t say much about Obama’s leadership skills.


44 posted on 09/05/2012 8:25:08 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: taterjay
Remember Arafat had way more than envisioned but wanted more still. Typical for power hungry madmen.

Not a 'mad man' at all. Arafat survived on grievance. Without grievance, there was no reason for Arafat.

It is perfectly logical for him to pooch any deal that would remove the grievance (even if such a thing would be possible in the f***-up Palestinian mind.

It would be like someone offering Jessie Jackson everything he demanded if he would just shut up and go away. He would then start demanding more just to keep the fight going because he makes his money off the fight, not in any form of settlement or agreement.

There is no interest in solutions... just in continuing the battle.

45 posted on 09/05/2012 8:30:50 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: rlmorel; Cicero
Actually, Boehner was wanting to close loopholes to raise revenue.

He thought he could get the votes because conservatives are always talking about wanting to simplify the tax code and closing loopholes accomplishes this goal.

Obama seemed to be going along but at the last minute pushed for tax hikes which he needed to please his party.

Boehner split at that point. Good for him.

46 posted on 09/05/2012 9:00:59 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Hojczyk

Woodward churns out these books every few years. They all have supposed insider scoops that are impossible to verify. He’s always the first and last to allegedly dig out these tidbits. Doesn’t pass the smell test, IMO.


47 posted on 09/05/2012 9:00:59 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Hojczyk

He got the GOP to sell out but his radical greed could not be contained and he tipped the band wagon. Boehner’s plan B of automatic military cuts, was bad, too. Looks like America’s in for a crap sandwich from the GOP no matter what.


48 posted on 09/05/2012 9:01:47 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: expat1000
Even if you think it doesn't pass the smell test it still makes Obama look extremely weak during election season.

That's a good thing.

49 posted on 09/05/2012 9:02:45 PM PDT by what's up
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To: onyx; hoosiermama

good idea...ping self to read in morning.


50 posted on 09/05/2012 9:29:35 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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