Skip to comments.Bob Woodward Book: Debt Deal Collapse Led to 'Pure Fury' From President Obama (Drudge)
Posted on 09/05/2012 7:11:40 PM PDT by Hojczyk
An explosive mix of dysfunction, miscommunication, and misunderstandings inside and outside the White House led to the collapse of a historic spending and debt deal that President Obama and House Speaker John Boehner were on the verge of reaching last summer, according to revelations in author Bob Woodward's latest book.
The book, "The Price of Politics," on sale Sept. 11, 2012, shows how close the president and the House speaker were to defying Washington odds and establishing a spending framework that included both new revenues and major changes to long-sacred entitlement programs.
But at a critical juncture, with an agreement tantalizingly close, Obama pressed Boehner for additional taxes as part of a final deal a miscalculation, in retrospect, given how far the House speaker felt he'd already gone.
The president called three times to speak with Boehner about his latest offer, according to Woodward. But the speaker didn't return the president's phone call for most of an agonizing day, in what Woodward calls a "monumental communications lapse" between two of the most powerful men in the country.
When Boehner finally did call back, he jettisoned the entire deal. Obama lost his famous cool, according to Woodward, with a "flash of pure fury" coming from the president; one staffer in the room said Obama gripped the phone so tightly he thought he would break it.
"He was spewing coals," Boehner told Woodward, in what is described as a borderline "presidential tirade."
"He was pissed
. He wasn't going to get a damn dime more out of me. He knew how far out on a limb I was. But he was hot. It was clear to me that coming to an agreement with him was not going to happen, and that I had to go to Plan B."
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given how far the House speaker felt he’d already gone.
He was going to sell us out...OBAMA saved us I guess???
FYI for later tonight or in the morning..
I read this whole article- it is remarkable...now Obama is going to have Romney, Ryan AND Bob Woodward living inside his head :)
Almost sounds like a Yassir Arafat deal.
Obama acted Stupidly.
If there’s any truth in this tale, I imagine that weak-spined Boner offered to give Obama 99% of what he wanted, but The One naturally wouldn’t settle for anything less than 100%.
Hard to say. Boner did not call him back even though Odumbo tried to call him 3 times, based on this article.
But anytime odumbo gets mad and doesn’t get his way, I get a tingle up my leg.
Did you expect Boehner wasn’t going to sell us out? Of course he was, he’s Republican leadership.
Thanks for the ping. Here s the link for those interested:
——”He was pissed . He wasn’t going to get a damn dime more out of me. He knew how far out on a limb I was. But he was hot. It was clear to me that coming to an agreement with him was not going to happen, and that I had to go to Plan B.”——
Translation: Obama thought he could intimidate Bonher to get more taxes and when he couldn’t, Obama threw a hussy fit and Bonher told Obama to ( Clint implied it )
“Obama phoned in to deliver a “high-minded message,” he writes. Obama went on so long that Pelosi “reached over and pressed the mute button on her phone,” so they could continue to work without the president hearing that they weren’t paying attention.
As debt negotiations progressed, Democrats complained of being out of the loop, not knowing where the White House stood on major points. Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., the ranking Democrat on the House Budget Committee, is described as having a “growing feeling of incredulity” as negotiations meandered.
“The administration didn’t seem to have a strategy. It was unbelievable. There didn’t seem to be any core principles,” Woodward writes in describing Van Hollen’s thinking. “
Zero is probably a pretty risky meet in a dark alley.
Exactly the same mindset as Yasser Arafat, exactly as murderous, and probably just as homosexual.
I’ve always wondered about that picture .Did it actually happen, or was it photo-shopped?
just finished- as if you needed more proof it just further shows what an arrogant, narcissistic, POS obama is....
Walk stupidly and carry a big stick.
Bowles, Simpson scoff at 1.6% budget cuts
Obama skips debt commission meeting (Dec. 2010)
WASHINGTON (CNN) - President Obama did not attend a White House meeting Thursday with members of his own debt commission, irking some of the Democrats on the panel who were expecting a high-level push from the commander-in-chief to show that its comprehensive deficit reduction plan is being taken seriously by the White House.
“He should have at least dropped by,” one Democratic member of the debt commission told CNN, speaking on the condition of anonymity because he wanted to speak more freely about the panel’s private meeting.
A second senior Democratic aide close to the panel added that commission members were miffed and privately believe the President did not attend because it would have been awkward “given the fact that he has just endorsed $900 billion in deficit spending” with the tax cut deal.
yeah, he cares.
Why have a deficit commission if you ignore them?
That was from Jay Leno’s show
That is how I see it. Boehner is shameful.
Shades of Arafat, Ehud Barak, and Clinton on peace deal. Remember Arafat had way more than envisioned but wanted more still. Typical for power hungry madmen.
So...the secret is out.
“But at a critical juncture, with an agreement tantalizingly close, Obama pressed Boehner for additional taxes as part of a final deal just as his masters HARRY REID and NANCY PELOSI told him to LOL!
From then on Boehner dealt with the people in charge- HARRY REID and NANCY PELOSI. Dealing with Obama was a waste of time. There was no way Obama could or would do anything but what his masters told him to do.
Woodward knows Harry and Nancy pulled the strings in Obama’s term. An ‘empty chair’ indeed.
I’ll bet the little faggot swings a pretty mean purse.
” - - - But after the breakthrough agreement fell apart, Boehner’s “Plan B” would ultimately exclude the president from most of the key negotiations. The president was “voted off the island,” in Woodward’s phrase, even by members of his own party, as congressional leaders patched together an eleventh hour framework to avoid default.”
Looks like Woodward thinks that Obama has become irrelevant.
Well, except for the golf course staff, of course!
Thanks. It looked real and it was real — but just for the comedy of it. (But I bet he really feels that way!!)
Thanks very much for the ping and I will read in the morning!
Pinging myself so I will remember.
Yeah. He wanted Farney Brank on a dog collar. But that's where Clinton drew the line.
A tax hike to far.
Boy, reading this article really paints Obama as a fool who doesn’t know how to negotiate in good faith.
Someone needs to inform the boy president that he temporarily represents ONE and only one branch of the federal government. He’s not a king. He gets a phone call when he gets a phone call.
Roger that. The aide saying that Obama was gripping the phone so tightly he thought it might break??? You can ascertain that visually? I just don't think it's true.
Woodward's whole career is based on lies.
I don’t doubt that people in the White Hut told Woodward some of this, but I suspect it was mostly lies thought to make him appear engaged and tough. I believe the truth is he is neither engaged nor tough.
Barack had a tantrum and Boehner caved.
Sounds like someone still doing blow. Bad very bad
In a funny day of dem implosions, the quote about Nancy P. pressing the mute button is about the best thing I have heard. Would have loved to have a video of it!
Would do you mind expanding on your reference? What is significant about the picture?
No matter what you think of Boehner - after reading this, from a partisan inclined to support Democratic administrations, you can’t say much about Obama’s leadership skills.
Not a 'mad man' at all. Arafat survived on grievance. Without grievance, there was no reason for Arafat.
It is perfectly logical for him to pooch any deal that would remove the grievance (even if such a thing would be possible in the f***-up Palestinian mind.
It would be like someone offering Jessie Jackson everything he demanded if he would just shut up and go away. He would then start demanding more just to keep the fight going because he makes his money off the fight, not in any form of settlement or agreement.
There is no interest in solutions... just in continuing the battle.
He thought he could get the votes because conservatives are always talking about wanting to simplify the tax code and closing loopholes accomplishes this goal.
Obama seemed to be going along but at the last minute pushed for tax hikes which he needed to please his party.
Boehner split at that point. Good for him.
Woodward churns out these books every few years. They all have supposed insider scoops that are impossible to verify. He’s always the first and last to allegedly dig out these tidbits. Doesn’t pass the smell test, IMO.
He got the GOP to sell out but his radical greed could not be contained and he tipped the band wagon. Boehner’s plan B of automatic military cuts, was bad, too. Looks like America’s in for a crap sandwich from the GOP no matter what.
That's a good thing.
good idea...ping self to read in morning.