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Atheists Laud Democrats for Removing God
American Spectator ^ | 9.5.12 | JEFFREY LORD

Posted on 09/05/2012 7:34:46 PM PDT by neverdem

The atheists are thrilled.

God has been removed from the Democrats' platform.

And no less than Illinois Senator Dick Durbin says removing God is "carping on a trifle."

As reported on the CNN Political Ticker:

David Silverman, president of American Atheists, said the exclusion of "God" in the Democrats' document was a step forward in including non-religious Americans in the official party stance.

"We are obviously happy that the Democrats are taking these positive steps," Silverman wrote. "We are looking for the inclusion of everyone and we are hopeful that that inclusion will continue to the point that we can depend on Mr. Obama to repeal the faith based initiatives and reinforce the separation of church and state."

"It comes as a pleasant surprise," he added. "It is something that we have been pushing for and is certainly a positive step. But it is only one step and I would like to see action more than words."

If the atheists are thrilled, Illinois Senator Dick Durbin was nothing but defensive and angry.

Fox reported last night that the Democrats had removed the solitary reference to "God" from their platform. This was followed by a Bret Baier interview with Senator Durbin, the Senate Majority Whip and a close Obama ally.

As seen here, Durbin quickly became upset when Baier began to question him on the fact of "God out of the platform."..

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats
DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM SEEKS TO RID U.S. OF OIL

IMHO, the rats are losing their minds.

1 posted on 09/05/2012 7:34:47 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Wellstone Memorial 2.0


2 posted on 09/05/2012 7:38:28 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: neverdem

Atheists, fags and freeloaders. No wonder that joint has turned into a circus and freak show. Tonight, they get their impeached “president”, Slick Willie” and Princess Low Cheekbones.


3 posted on 09/05/2012 7:38:52 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: MNJohnnie

Dems are really upset because the put god back in


4 posted on 09/05/2012 7:40:12 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: MNJohnnie
Wellstone Memorial 2.0

HAH!

Yes, but without the savvy of Mondale!! /s

5 posted on 09/05/2012 7:42:02 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: neverdem

how did that work out for them? lol


6 posted on 09/05/2012 7:53:17 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: neverdem

Atheists, you have your party, we have ours.


7 posted on 09/05/2012 7:55:23 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Wellstone Memorial II, indeed. You nailed it.

But that was ten years ago. Who except us FReepers remember it?

Anyway, the atheists & jihadis must be tied up in knots now. Did Obama personally order this colossal flip-flop on G-d & Israel? During the voice vote that muzzie was absolutely jumping up & down with rage as he bellowed “NO!!!!!!!”.

This is the enemy, folks. If they win, CWII is officially under way.


8 posted on 09/05/2012 8:05:18 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: neverdem
We have entered an eerie phase of American history, even world history. Now things that we intrinsically know define decency itself are themselves attacked as indecent. Today, what was vice, today is today is virtue. Our time considers it dirty-minded to treat sexual purity as a virtue; unfeeling to insist too firmly that the sick and infirmed should nto be encouraged to seek death; impious pride to profess humble faith in God. The moral law has become the very emblem of immorality. We call affirming it "being judgemental" and "being intolerant", which is another way of saying that this opinion has been judged and will not be tolerated. We now have a national party who has taken what should be those among us who are most deserving of protection and now have the least protection. They have defined down humanity to anything less that that as a first step, only to take a series of next steps to opportunistically profer societal 'remedies' for those type of problems. Abortion and infanticide becomes an exercise of definition, but the victim no less are tortured and blotted out for reasons of convience or otherwise. We have abandoned moral law and disbelief is moral law has become a pillar of middle-class prejudice. If you do not believe me simply watch 15 minutes of the Democrat National Convention.

The rectitude and knowledge of Moral Law used to be the same for all of us; deliberately taking human life, sleeping with the neighbors wife, and mocking God are as wrong for me as it is for you, no matter what either of us believe. But, look at those advocating at the DNC. They go further. They ask the rest of us to underwrite their immorality. Now an entire generation has come of age taking for granted the liberty to kill one's children in the dim, soft refuge which was once considered the safest of all. Foundational Principles are abandoned and we are left to fill that vacuum with our own imaginings. Each of us defining our own moral order is a prescription for abandoning reason and logic to assess reality. As Moral Law loses the character of law and becomes convention we cut our moorings and float, adrift in a cosmos which we refuse to observe as it is. We create another law (opinion) and another which will culminate in only the strong man imposing his view upon all others. Natural Law (Moral Law) is built into the design of all men is the ordinance of reason, for the common good made by God. He has arranged His creation such that every rational being knows about it. It is what J.Budziszewski says are "things we can't not know". Natural Law is not mere custom, or biological instincts. Having sublimated this knowledge we arrive where Dostoyevsky said we would go..."Now, everything is permitted."

9 posted on 09/05/2012 8:21:05 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: neverdem

“We are looking for the inclusion of everyone...”

That includes everyone, except for the dirty Christians who aren’t celebrating liberalism’s butt action. :)


10 posted on 09/05/2012 8:44:08 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: neverdem
Atheists Laud Democrats for Removing God

Too late, Suckas!! Your demi-god rolled you on that one!

11 posted on 09/05/2012 8:53:54 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (DNC: "Govt is the only thing we all belong to" MGM: I thought slavery was abolished long ago.)
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To: neverdem
"carping on a trifle."

12 posted on 09/05/2012 9:15:20 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (A tale of a very grey woman, who was no lady...)
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To: Texas Songwriter
They have chosen subjugation, and it is up to us to deliver it unto them...
13 posted on 09/05/2012 9:19:15 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (A tale of a very grey woman, who was no lady...)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Now things that we intrinsically know define decency itself are themselves attacked as indecent. Today, what was vice, today is today is virtue.

Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a Dem of the old school that actually had morals and believed in independence and a Defense budget, called this process "defining deviancy down" for perverts and criminals ..... to which Charles Krauthammer immediately added "defining deviancy up" for honest people that deviants, criminals, and perverts want to recriminate against for their own criminality and perversion. Thus the latter-day "insight" that suburban, church-going dads are secretly slavering sexual monsters, etc., abusing children and women and besmearing everything they touch.

14 posted on 09/05/2012 11:20:20 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem
God is dead, Nietzsche.


Nietzsche is dead, God.

15 posted on 09/06/2012 3:42:40 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

16 posted on 09/06/2012 3:44:19 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: neverdem

Congratulations, Atheists, you now have your own political party, enjoy.


17 posted on 09/06/2012 3:45:23 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: neverdem
One wonders who is better qualified to understand the Constitution's position on matters relating to religious expressions in publicly supported facilities -- the Founders themselves or today's politicians, judges, pressure groups, and media spokesmen?

Example: Geo. Washington, First Inaugural, April 30, 1789:

". . . it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official act my fervent supplication to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a government instituted by themselves for these essential purposes. . . ."

Thanksgiving Proclamation, October 3, 1789: "Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly implore His protection and favor. . . ."

Thomas Jefferson, Second Inaugural:

"I shall need the favor of that Being in whose hands we are, Who led our forefathers, as Israel of old, from their native land, and planted them in a country flowing with all the necessaries and comforts of life; Who has covered our infancy with His providence, and our riper years with His wisdom and power; and to whose goodness I ask you to join with me in supplication, that He will so enlighten the minds of your servants, guide their councils, and prosper their measures, that whatsoever they do shall result in your good, and shall secure to you peace, friendship, and approbation of all nations."

In 1815, "We are not in a world ungoverned by the laws and the power of a Superior Agent. Our efforts are in His hand, and directed by it; and He will give them their effect in His own time."

Jefferson letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, November 2, 1822, "In our village of Charlottesville, there is a good degree of religion, with a small spice only of fanaticism. We have four sects, but without either church or meeting-house. The courthouse is the common temple, one Sunday in the month to each. Here, Episcopalian and Presbyterian, Methodist and Baptist, meet together, join in hymning their Maker, listen with attention and devotion to each others' preachers, and all mix in society with perfect harmony. In our university you know there is no Professorship of Divinity. A handle (point) has been made of this, to disseminate an idea that this is an institution, not merely of no religion, but against all religion. Occasion was taken at the last meeting of the visitors, to bring forward an idea that might silence this calumny (malicious false charge). . . . In our annual report to the legislature, after stating the constitution reasons against a public establishment of any religious instruction, we suggest the expediency of encouraging the different religious sects to establish, each for itself, a professorship of their own tenets, on the confines of the university, so near as that their students may attend the lectures there, and have the free use of our library, and every other accommodation we can give them; preserving, however, their independence of us and of each other. . . and by bringing the sects together, and mixing them with the mass of other students, we shall soften their asperities, liberalize and neutralize their prejudices, and make the general religion a religion of peace, reason, and morality."

John Adams, 1789, soon after becoming Vice President: "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

The Continental Congress, in 1777, assigned a special committee to consider the shortage of Bibles. The Committee report read: ". . . that the use of the Bible is so universal and its importance so great. . .the Committee recommend that Congress will order the Committee of Congress to import 20,000 Bibles from Holland, Scotland, or elsewhere, into the different parts of the States of the Union. Whereupon it was resolved accordingly to direct said Committee to import 20,000 copies of the Bible."

Of more interest, however, is the fact that in 1782 another need arose, and the U. S. Congress approved the first American printing of what is now known as the "Bible of the Revolution."

Prayers were offered in publicly-owned and operated facilities (including publicly-owned and operated schools) for the most of the first 150-200 years of our nation's history. Only in recent decades have those who would control the minds of citizens attached a truly mythical significance to Jefferson's unfortunate phrasing in his letter to the Danbury Baptists--phrasing clearly intended to signify a wall that protected religious freedom from government interference, not the other way around. Jefferson's life, expressed in both his official and unofficial acts, testifies to a vastly different view than that imposed by today's mind controllers who would, in all likelihood, ban his "village of Charlottesville" from allowing church services in the courthouse, and who certainly would not approve of President Jefferson's practice of attending worship service in the U. S. Capitol Building.

The prolific writings of the Founders and early Presidents, as well as signers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, contain scores of assertions which defy today's claims that government has been delegated the right to exclude religious belief and practice from the public square. Such claims are nothing but the most cowardly brand of censorship.

As late as the mid-20th Century, an American hero, defender and lover of the nation's liberty, General and President Dwight D. Eisenhower, on signing law for inclusion of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance, on June 14, 1954, stated: "From this day forward, the millions of our school children will daily proclaim in every city and town, every village and rural school house, the dedication of our nation and our people to the Almighty."

Almost a century before him, Abraham Lincoln asserted: "It is the duty of nations, as well as of men, to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God and to recognize the sublime truth announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord."

1) "Is our nation better or worse off since the courts and the pressure groups have redefined the Constitution's First Amendment protections and the Founders' oft-stated insistence on a prohibition of government interference in matters of religion (that so-called Jeffersonian 'wall of separation')?"

2) "As citizens, do we possess more liberty or less liberty as a result of their (pressure groups and courts) imposition of censorship of religious expression from the public square over the past few decades?"

Ready internet access to the writings and speeches of the founding generation make ignorance of their principles of liberty inexcusable. Liberty for future generations--the liberty inherited by us as an undeserved gift from our wise ancestors of the 18th, 19th and early 20th Centuries, may depend on our willingness to confront these questions and to search out constitutional answers for ourselves from the original sources.

18 posted on 09/06/2012 5:46:47 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Texas Songwriter

Good post.


19 posted on 09/06/2012 6:03:51 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks neverdem.


20 posted on 09/06/2012 7:38:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
"...Removing God"

  

God is not so easily removed.

21 posted on 09/07/2012 7:03:30 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

IMHO, putting it back in just highlighted the issue further.


22 posted on 09/07/2012 7:05:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: MrB

Indeed. What a debacle for the Damnocrats.


23 posted on 09/07/2012 9:30:37 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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