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Despite Photo, State Dept. Says U.S. Envoy Didn't Bow to Statue of Dictator
CNS News ^ | 9/5/12 | Patrick Goodenough

Posted on 09/05/2012 9:35:45 PM PDT by Nachum

(CNSNews.com) – The Obama administration’s new ambassador to Azerbaijan raised eyebrows this week with a gesture interpreted by some as paying homage to the country’s late dictator – a one-time KGB general installed by military coup who oversaw an autocratic regime before handing power to his son.

“The new U.S. envoy to Azerbaijan, Richard Morningstar, has honored memory of national leader of Azerbaijan Heydar Aliyev,” the Azeri news site News.Az reported.

“The newly appointed ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of the United States in Azerbaijan visited the monument to great leader in the park in front of the Heydar Aliyev’s Palace. Morningstar honored the memory of the national leader and laid flowers to the monument.”

A photograph released by the national news agency shows Morningstar standing in front of a statue of Aliyev with head bowed. Aliyev died in 2003

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: azerbaijan; bakutbilisiceyhan; bow; bowing; btc; caspian; dictator; envoy; georgia; heydaraliyev; johnkerry; kerryadvisors; kgb; kowtow; morningstar; oil; oilpipeline; opic; photo; pipeline; richardmorningstar; turkey
He had a crick in his neck... yeah, that' the ticket. He.... was reading an inscription on the sidewalk... He saw a silver dollar on the sidewalk,...no.. it was a gold dubloon.. from real pirates.... yeah... that's the ticket
1 posted on 09/05/2012 9:35:54 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Barack Hussein couldn’t be there so he did what Barack would have done.


2 posted on 09/05/2012 9:37:28 PM PDT by cquiggy
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To: Nachum

3 posted on 09/05/2012 9:39:28 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1325 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Nachum

Well... it IS the State Dept’s JOB to lie.


4 posted on 09/05/2012 9:39:57 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: mrsmith

Did I tie my shoes this morning?


5 posted on 09/05/2012 9:46:49 PM PDT by papageo
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To: papageo

“Hey, I can see my reflection.”


6 posted on 09/05/2012 9:49:12 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Nachum

I’d normally jump right in on this, but after checking the photo, it does seem to me like he is looking at his shoes. Or something under his shoes.

Look at the position of his feet. Toes up, slanted...

Anyhow, in the interests of honesty, I have to say that does not qualify as a “bow” to me.


7 posted on 09/05/2012 9:56:17 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Nachum

They said he was placing flowers I don’t see any flowers is it just me?


8 posted on 09/05/2012 10:00:13 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Ronin
If he realized he was standing on an inscription, maybe.

There's no inscription.

9 posted on 09/05/2012 10:03:53 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (A tale of a very grey woman, who was no lady...)
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To: Nachum
" Morningstar honored the memory of the national leader and laid flowers to the monument.”

OK... so despite the picture, he didnt bow to the monument of a dictator... but he did honor it with flowers.

ya... that's much better.

10 posted on 09/05/2012 10:11:32 PM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: StAnDeliver

He’s rocking back on his heels and looking down. I have no idea what he’s looking at, but it’s just not a bow.

LOL... you can kind of trust me on that. I bow every day in Japanese social situations, the body language is very distinctive.


11 posted on 09/05/2012 10:12:46 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: null and void

Yup, he didn’t bow just like Hillary’s husband, BJ Clinton didn’t have sex with that woman.


12 posted on 09/05/2012 10:28:20 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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To: Nachum

If anyone has worked for the State Dept, as I have, they would know that the very, very, very strong majority of their employees and contractors(USAID) absolutely HATE the United States and everything it stands for.

They all love being in socialist/communist countries. Especially, since they’re there on the government dime, are certainly not forced to live as one of the population trying to survive and are above the law in most cases.

So, like Wasserman-Schultz, they all tend to live in a very liberal, progressive, socialist, communist alternate universe.


13 posted on 09/05/2012 11:03:50 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: Nachum

what a travesty


14 posted on 09/05/2012 11:06:36 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Nachum

If there is a not a living dictator to bow to, a dictator statue will have to do.

Fearless Leader would approve.


15 posted on 09/05/2012 11:21:45 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: funfan

There is a little bit of something showing at the base of the statue.


16 posted on 09/05/2012 11:57:00 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Nachum

This is nothing compared with what b o did to the saudi king, king of islam.


17 posted on 09/06/2012 12:04:34 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Nachum

I don’t understand why he placed flowers at the statue “of the great leader”. If you read the article, the statue guy was a commie as in KGB and high up in the party ranks.

This country is fighting for democracy and liberty and our ambassador honors a past dictator/communist. What the hell is wrong with this picture.

This administration has got to go, and now, or we will be bowing, scraping and kissing the feet of an Obama statue.

Unbelievable!!!!


18 posted on 09/06/2012 12:08:14 AM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: null and void
Even if it wasn't a bow I want to know why our ambassador is going anywhere near that particular statue. Is there some relationship between the US and this former leader or not? It's one thing for a diplomat to pay some customary respect for a live counterpart or at a funeral ...but years after the guy's death you go out of your way to do it and bring a wreath [assuming that thing at the base was brought by him.]? Is that really neccessary to kiss up to the deceased brother with a public show?

I don't know if that's a "bow" or not but I suspect it is since there's no dog crap around there he could have stepped in. Clearly he is demonstrating respect for the site because he isn't just walking past it- he paused there and is centered in directly in front of it. If that was the statue of some low-ranking unknown soldier or the country's noblest saint I'd overlook it but the statue is of a deceased dictator who was a member of the KGB, and the KGB was a foreign empire/government's force imposed on Azerbajan without a vote, not an indigenous Azerbajani service.

On the other hand, since the US has a habit of appointing political donors and brown-nosers rather than statemen as ambassadors, sometimes not even picking people who know the language, it could be he didn't know better. Knowing the liberals, he could be standing there with his feet spread and head bowed simply because he is admiring his own reflection. ;-)

19 posted on 09/06/2012 12:10:42 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Ronin

No, that’s not toe up, that’s toes slightly apart on a shiny, light-reflecting marble (or whatever) ground.


20 posted on 09/06/2012 12:12:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Nachum; Fedora; Cindy

Uh oh.
Dollars to donuts, I’m betting it’s a very sincere bow.

Here’s some research done by freeper Fedora which brings up Richard Morningstar:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1264816/posts


21 posted on 09/06/2012 12:18:10 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: BlessingsofLiberty; Fedora; Cindy; kcvl
check out my link... Ambassador Morningstar was one of Hanoi John Kerry's adviors:

"A third early member of Kerry's foreign policy team was Richard Morningstar, a diplomat from the Clinton State Department. From 1995 to 1998 Morningstar had coordinated aid to the former Soviet Union, and in this capacity he had suppressed reports of US aid being diverted to fund the Russian military. Later Morningstar--a former Senior Vice President of the Overseas Private Investment Corporations (OPIC)----had advised Clinton on Caspian energy policy, a subject related to OPIC development of a major oil pipeline then being built from Turkey through Georgia to Azerbaijan, the Baku--Tbilisi--Ceyhan (BTC) Pipeline.10 " -- Fedora

22 posted on 09/06/2012 12:23:32 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Ronin

He’s bowing his head, not his body.


23 posted on 09/06/2012 12:34:02 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Obama's newly appointed ambassador Morningstar was John Kerry's advisor and we know that Obama has already told the Russians he would have "more flexibility" after the elections - without telling the American people just what he meant by that, of course.

One of John Kerry's benefactors was Hassan Nemazee, an Iranian born campaign donor shared with none other than Obama. Nemazee was convicted of defrauding some US banks and was fined and sentenced; Nemazee was for normalizing relations with Iran.

To get a better idea of what Obama and Kerry may have had in common besides Nemazee and morningstar maybe we should look at a quote of John Kerry from Fedora's link:

“I first want to say something about those sanctions on Iran. Only the United States put the sanctions on alone, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. In order for the sanctions to be effective, we should have been working with the British, French and Germans and other countries. And that's the difference between the president and me. . .With respect to Iran, the British, French, and Germans were the ones who initiated an effort without the United States, regrettably, to begin to try to move to curb the nuclear possibilities in Iran. I believe we could have done better. I think the United States should have offered the opportunity to provide the nuclear fuel, test them, see whether or not they were actually looking for it for peaceful purposes."34---- John Kerry

24 posted on 09/06/2012 12:36:48 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

“Here’s some research done by freeper Fedora which brings up Richard Morningstar”

I remember reading the Fedora thread. I have read that Kerry will be replacing Hillary Clinton in the next Obama term (if he wins).

I find that little revelation extremely disturbing but one more indication of what an Obama second term will be about.

I am constantly reminded of what Obama said to Dimitri Medvedev...the whispered message to Putin. I can’t understand why the electorate can’t see what Obama is really about.

I don’t think they understand Communism.


25 posted on 09/06/2012 12:40:00 AM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: Nachum

So the regimes official position is that despite the PICTURE OF HIM BOWING TO A STATUE, he didn’t bow to the statue. wow...just wow.


26 posted on 09/06/2012 12:41:20 AM PDT by barmag25
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To: null and void

Didn’t bow?

Oh, I get it! “I say a little prayer for you...”.


27 posted on 09/06/2012 12:46:31 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: a_Turk

Azerbaijan /Iran / Turkey /Russia pipelines ping

Do you think it is not related to the energy wars?
Sunday, July 01, 2012 10:22:46 AM · by a_Turk · 2 replies
Hurriyet Daily News ^ | 6/30/2012 | MURAT YETK

Russian energy giant Gazprom issued a brief statement on June 29 which actually touches on many political problems in the greater geography surrounding Turkey. It said that the company is ready to send more gas to Turkey if necessary, but from 2018 on Turkey could ask help from Azerbaijan as well. Reuters got it right when it called the statement a threat; a threat to both Turkey and Azerbaijan. The date the Russian company named, 2018, is the planned completion date for the TANAP (Trans-Anatolian) pipeline, which will carry Azerbaijani natural gas to Europe, a $7 billion project which was...


28 posted on 09/06/2012 12:50:55 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: BlessingsofLiberty
Picking a Kerry advisor for this region is not making me feel very good:

".....Azerbaijan is on the front lines of a shadow war between Israel and Iran. At stake are Iran’s nuclear weapons program and Israel’s clandestine efforts to stop it. A recent article published by McClatchy Newspapers refers to Azerbaijan—sandwiched between Iran and Russia on the Caspian Sea—as a “den of spies.” Russia, the United States, the United Kingdom, Israel, and Iran—all of these countries and more run clandestine operations on Azerbaijani soil. “This is ground zero for intelligence work,” an Israeli intelligence official told the London Times earlier this year. “Our presence here is quiet, but substantial. We have increased our presence in the past year, and it gets us very close to Iran.” .... .....In late March, Foreign Policy magazine reported that Israel had struck a deal with Azerbaijan that would allow the Israelis to launch airstrikes against Iran’s nuclear installations from its territory. Whether or not this is true, the relationship between the Israeli and the Azerbaijani governments is close. ------------ What’s Going On in Azerbaijan? The Iran-al Qaeda alliance., The Weekly Standard ^ | May 7, 2012 | Thomas Joscelyn Posted on 04/27/2012 10:52:18 PM PDT by neverdem

29 posted on 09/06/2012 12:58:37 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

That is some fascinating information.

Thank you!


30 posted on 09/06/2012 1:07:41 AM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (Remember Brian Terry...)
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To: Ronin

Much more telling is the position of his hands. Along with his head it sure looks like a bow to me.


31 posted on 09/06/2012 1:29:33 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: piasa

The Russian Military Has an Action Plan Involving Georgia if Iran Is Attacked
Jamestown Foundation Eurasia Daily Monitor ^ | 4/5/2012 | Pavel Felgenhauer Posted on Friday, April 06, 2012 2:52:56 AM by bruinbirdman http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2868832/posts


32 posted on 09/06/2012 1:58:17 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: EnquiringMind

Exactly - his head is bowed and hands are in the “fig leaf” position that I have seen at dozens of wreath-layings. Normally that stance is used for paying respect to the war dead, so the State Department could have said he was just showing respect for the dead and was not meant as a political affirmation of Aliyev’s policies, but instead they went the ham-handed route and are trying to deny the undeniable. Sheer incompetence - same as why Morningstar allowed himself to be placed in that position in the first place - somebody told him to. We need adults at State again.


33 posted on 09/06/2012 1:58:57 AM PDT by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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To: qaz123; mickie; seekthetruth; seenenuf; Bob Ireland; surfer; Bushbacker1; Chigirl 26; Bizzy Bugz; ..
Ditto everything you said. My late 2nd cousin was career State Department. If the commoners of this land knew the past and present content of State Department personnel, i.e., staffers, department heads and diplomatic and economic section officers, employees and appointees, their hair would stand on end.

Anti-America, anti-military, snobbish, anti-Israel and pro-Arab, insulated, hard-leftist, superior, elitist attitudes.....(Hillary fit right into this atmosphere like a glove when she was appointed Secretary of State, btw).

An enclave of State Department retirees and spouses live around me here in Florida. I've been to their little dinners, barbecues, etc. Many of them from the commonplace sticks and hinterlands of the U. S., they sit around smoking European cigarettes, drinking German coffee, nibbling at Belgian after-dinner chocolates, talking with nostalgia about the good old days of (subsidized) living in plush embassies and posts overseas (always with local servants, of course) all the while extolling the cultural and political virtues of European countries over those of the U.S.

I quickly got out of that social milleu. It burned me up....they're still living very well on the big pensions being paid for by us as they verbally run down this country over their brandies (delicately, obliquely and diplomatically, of course, as they've been trained).

Leni

34 posted on 09/06/2012 2:20:20 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Nachum

Looks like he’s taking a piss. The liberals should have spun it that way.


35 posted on 09/06/2012 2:52:13 AM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: Nachum
“The newly appointed ambassador.....visited the monument to great leader in the park......honored the memory of the national leader and laid flowers to the monument.”

WHY??? (This gives a whole new meaning to: "Don't even go there.")
36 posted on 09/06/2012 3:11:26 AM PDT by oliviasdad (Sarah Palin for Energy Secretary / Newt for Sec. of State / Rand Paul for Head of Fed. Res.)
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To: Nachum
Despite Photo, State Dept. Says U.S. Envoy Didn't Bow to Statue of Dictator

BULL CORN!!! So, if he just bowed his head in respect and placed flowers; that's the same respect we pay at the "Tomb of the Unknown Soldier". What would I have done in that situation??? I know; I would have been busy that day and unable to stop by dictator-dude's tomb.
37 posted on 09/06/2012 3:16:09 AM PDT by oliviasdad (Sarah Palin for Energy Secretary / Newt for Sec. of State / Rand Paul for Head of Fed. Res.)
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To: qaz123

I hope to live to see the day that the US State Dept is completely disbanded.


38 posted on 09/06/2012 3:21:06 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: oliviasdad
Well, at least he's not bowing to Iran.

Azerbaijan may at least be of benefit to us if its airbases get used by Israel to nail Iran's nuke sites.

The problem isn't that he's bowing to a dead guy's statue, it's that he may be doing what Kerry did in the 70s : backstab our allies.

39 posted on 09/06/2012 3:22:26 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: qaz123

Correct. They all love being in socialist/communist countries so they can live like princes, put down America and enjoy whores on the cheap.


40 posted on 09/06/2012 3:34:18 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: piasa

Thread bump and thank you for the ping, Piasa.


41 posted on 09/06/2012 3:47:34 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Nachum

Continuing the trend of the Bowbama Administration.


42 posted on 09/06/2012 3:52:04 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Nachum
That's not a kowtowing bow of a lowly slave before a fat tyrant, this is:

Now THAT's a proper emasculating bow.

43 posted on 09/06/2012 4:05:17 AM PDT by Bon mots (When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...)
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To: Nachum

“I feel a breeze. Is my fly open?”


44 posted on 09/06/2012 5:13:19 AM PDT by Vinnie (A)
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To: 1010RD; iopscusa; qaz123; mickie; flaglady47
Approximately 50,000 men and women work for the U.S. State Department, a bureaucratic nightmare which for countless decades has been an almost-under-the-radar aristocracy of political and cultural anti-American sentiment.

11,500 State Department hires are foreign service employees (ambassadors, officers, staff, etc.), 7,400 are civil service employees and 31,000 are foreign service nationals (hires of local residents in countries where we have diplomatic posts and consulates).

"We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created EQUAL".

This is our credo. We do not BOW to kings, dictators, murderous corrupt rulers.....or their representatives. This is what makes us Americans.

Obama himself set the example to members of his far-flung diplomatic "corpse" by the now-infamous bowing to the autocratic despot of an Arab emirate.

Leni

45 posted on 09/06/2012 7:23:13 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: qaz123
They all love being in socialist/communist countries. Especially, since they’re there on the government dime, are certainly not forced to live as one of the population trying to survive and are above the law in most cases.

They live like Kings and Queens! Who wouldn't love it. I really would like to see a president come in and throw them all out. Fire them all in one day. It would be a fine moment indeed.

46 posted on 09/06/2012 9:14:32 AM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: piasa

I couldn’t say if it’s a bow or not out of context in a still photo. I do wonder what forces are at play in Morningstar’s long-term involvement with oil pipeline development in Azerbaijan, a pet project of his since the Clinton administration, with renewed involvement since Obama came into office and appointed him Special Envoy of the United States Secretary of State for Eurasian Energy. The latter led him into additional involvement in the Nabucco pipeline project in Turkey, a 12-15 billion Euro project being financed by the the European Investment Bank (EIB), the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD), and the International Finance Corporation (IFC). The project is deeply enmeshed in disputes with Russia and Iran and the Kurdistan Workers Party. Morningstar was active in this before his recent diplomatic appointment to Azerbaijan.


47 posted on 09/08/2012 8:44:43 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Thanks for the additional info.


48 posted on 09/09/2012 2:42:31 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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